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Liam Mendez

Does my wife get my current SS benefit amount or just my FRA amount when I die?

I finally started collecting my Social Security retirement last year at age 70 after delaying past my full retirement age of 67. My original FRA monthly benefit would have been around $3,250, but because I waited plus got COLA increases, I'm now receiving about $4,500 monthly. My wife (she's 64) and I were discussing survivor planning yesterday, and we realized we have completely different understandings of what she'd receive if I passed away. I thought she'd get my current higher amount, but she insists her financial advisor told her she'd only get my original FRA amount. This is a pretty significant difference of over $1,200 monthly! Can someone clarify which amount she would actually receive as a survivor benefit? Does she get my boosted current payment or just what my FRA amount would have been?

Your wife would receive your current benefit amount as her survivor benefit, not the FRA amount. When you die, she's entitled to receive either her own benefit or your benefit at the time of death, whichever is higher. Since you delayed claiming and received delayed retirement credits plus COLAs, she would receive that higher amount. The only reduction would be if she claims survivor benefits before her own full retirement age. Hope that helps clear things up.

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Thank you! That's a huge relief. I was worried we had been making retirement plans based on incorrect numbers. So if she's only 64 now (her FRA is 67), would she get a reduced amount if I passed before she reached her FRA?

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my mom just went thru this last year when dad died. she gets his FULL amount that he was getting before he died. the funeral home actually helped her file for it right after he passed! but she was already past her retirement age so didn't get any reduction.

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So sorry about your dad. Did your mom have to wait long to start receiving the survivor benefits? I've heard horror stories about people waiting months with no income after filing.

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thx. it took about 6 weeks i think? not too bad but she had some savings to cover bills until then

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The financial advisor is WRONG. This is why I don't trust most of them with Social Security questions - they often don't understand the nuances of the system. As a surviving spouse, your wife is entitled to the HIGHER of: 1. Your benefit amount at the time of your death (including delayed retirement credits and COLAs) 2. Her own retirement benefit BUT - and this is important - if she claims survivor benefits before her own Full Retirement Age, they will be reduced. The reduction is about 0.396% per month before her FRA. So if she claimed immediately at 64, she'd get roughly 85.6% of your current benefit. I recommend she schedule an appointment with SSA directly to discuss her options. The difference could be thousands of dollars annually.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. I'll definitely let her know to contact SSA directly. Do they typically give this kind of personalized guidance over the phone, or does she need to visit an office?

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For survivor benefit planning, I strongly recommend an in-person appointment at your local field office. They can run calculations specific to your situation and review all options. Phone support is hit or miss - you might get someone knowledgeable or someone reading from a script.

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My husband died 2 years ago and I got his full amount, not the FRA amount. But the real issue was GETTING THROUGH to SSA to file the claim!! I tried calling for 3 weeks straight, either got disconnected or was on hold for 2+ hours before giving up. Ended up having to take a day off work to go to the office and wait 3 hours.

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Wish I'd known about that back then! Saved for future reference because I'm sure I'll need to deal with them again eventually.

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Ava Kim

Everyone keeps saying she gets your full current amount, but there's actually another factor: if she's working and under her FRA, earnings limit would reduce her survivor benefits. In 2025, she'll lose $1 in benefits for every $2 she earns above $23,340 (approximate amount based on current trends). Has anyone discussed the earnings test with her?

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That's a great point I hadn't considered. She still works part-time making about $32,000 annually. So I guess that would reduce her survivor benefit until she reaches her FRA?

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Ava Kim

Yes, it would. If she earns $32,000, that's $8,660 above the limit, which means reducing benefits by $4,330 annually or about $360 monthly. After she reaches FRA, the reduction stops and SSA recalculates to gradually give back some of those withheld benefits.

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IM SO CONFUSED!!! I thought survivor benefits were ALWAYS 100% of what the deceased spouse was getting?? My sister just got widowed and she's only getting like 82% of what her husband got each month. They NEVER told her about any reductions!! Is SSA cheating her??

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They're not cheating her. If she claimed survivor benefits before her own full retirement age, they would be reduced. The reduction can be as much as 28.5% if claimed at the earliest possible age (60). How old was your sister when she applied?

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OH! She was 63 when he died last year. So maybe that's why? No one ever explained it to her that way!

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btw make sure ur wife applies for the one-time death benefit too, its only $255 but better than nothing lol

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I had no idea about that. Every bit helps! Do you know if that's automatic or something she needs to specifically request?

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she has to ask for it specifically, they dont just give it to you automatically

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One other thing to consider - if your wife is still working or plans to work past age 67 (her FRA), she might want to think strategically about claiming. She could potentially take reduced survivor benefits now and switch to her own retirement benefit later if her own benefit would be higher by then (especially if she has high career earnings). Or alternatively, take her own reduced retirement benefit now and switch to the survivor benefit at her FRA. Which option is best depends on the difference between her benefit amount and your benefit amount. This is why personalized planning is so important with survivor benefits.

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That's really helpful - I hadn't realized she could potentially switch between benefits. Her career earnings were modest compared to mine, so I suspect the survivor benefit will always be higher than her own. Still, definitely worth exploring all options.

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As someone who just went through the survivor benefit process last month when my father passed, I can confirm your wife would get your CURRENT benefit amount ($4,500), not the FRA amount. The key things we learned: 1) She gets the higher of your benefit or her own benefit, 2) If she claims before her FRA (67), it gets reduced - at 64 she'd get about 85-90% depending on exact timing, 3) The earnings test applies if she's still working, and 4) Don't forget to apply for the $255 lump sum death benefit. My biggest advice: get everything in writing from SSA because different representatives sometimes give conflicting information. Also, start the application process as soon as possible after death occurs - benefits can be paid retroactively but there's still paperwork delays.

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This is really comprehensive - thank you for sharing your recent experience! The point about getting everything in writing is especially valuable. I've heard too many stories about people getting different answers from different SSA reps. Did you find any particular forms or documents that were especially important to keep copies of during the process? And how long did it take from when you first applied until the benefits actually started?

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who works at a local SSA field office (though I can't give official advice here). What I see daily is that survivor benefit calculations are one of the most misunderstood aspects of Social Security. Your wife's financial advisor is unfortunately misinformed - this happens more often than you'd think with non-SSA professionals. To be crystal clear: she would receive your CURRENT monthly benefit amount ($4,500) as her survivor benefit, assuming she waits until her FRA to claim. The delayed retirement credits you earned by waiting until 70 DO transfer to survivor benefits - that's the whole point of delaying! If she claims at 64, yes there would be a reduction (roughly 14-15% based on her being 3 years early), but she'd still get more than your original FRA amount. The key is having SSA run the actual numbers for your specific situation rather than relying on general estimates. One tip: when she does go to SSA, bring a copy of your most recent Social Security statement and hers. It helps the representative give more accurate projections.

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Thank you so much for this clarification from someone who actually works at SSA! It's reassuring to hear from an insider that my wife would indeed get my current $4,500 amount. I'm definitely going to have her schedule an appointment soon to get the official numbers. Quick question - when you mention bringing our Social Security statements, should those be recent ones or would older statements showing our full earnings history be more helpful? Also, is there a particular time of day or week that tends to be less busy at field offices?

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@Zoey Bianchi This is incredibly helpful information coming from someone who actually works at SSA! Thank you for taking the time to clarify this. My wife has been really stressed about this discrepancy between what we thought and what her financial advisor said. It sounds like we need to fire that advisor and get proper guidance directly from SSA. One question - when she does make that appointment, should she bring me along since it s'about my benefits transferring to her, or can she handle this on her own as my spouse?

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@Zoey Bianchi Thanks for the insider perspective - it s'really valuable to hear from someone who sees these situations daily! I m'curious about the timing aspect you mentioned. If someone is widowed at, say, 62, would it ever make sense for them to wait until their FRA to claim survivor benefits rather than taking the reduced amount immediately? I know everyone s'financial situation is different, but are there general scenarios where delaying survivor benefits works out better in the long run, similar to how delaying your own retirement benefits can pay off?

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