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Can my son voluntarily leave SSI to work without repaying benefits? PTSD + criminal record complications

My son (now 25) has been receiving SSI for about 3 years due to severe PTSD from being incarcerated as a teenager. He spent 6 years in prison with 8 months in solitary for a non-violent offense he maintains he didn't commit. His mental health has improved with therapy, and he's expressing interest in finding meaningful work instead of staying on SSI. The problem is he can't survive on the $1,150/month benefit, but he's worried about work limitations and potential repayment issues. I'm his representative payee, and he uses almost everything for basic rent and food. If his therapy continues helping and he wants to try regular employment, will he have to repay all his past SSI benefits? I checked SS.gov and got confused about repayment requirements. He has no assets except an old pickup truck worth maybe $2,000. Is there any way to negotiate a repayment plan if needed? His father and I are on fixed incomes ourselves and couldn't help with repayments. I just want him to have a chance at rebuilding his life despite his felony record.

Dmitry Ivanov

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He absolutely would NOT need to repay past SSI benefits if he improves and goes to work. SSI is not like a loan - it's assistance provided when needed. The SSA actually has programs designed to help SSI recipients transition to work. Look into the Ticket to Work program and PASS (Plan to Achieve Self-Support). The most important thing is that he reports any earnings to SSA promptly. His SSI amount will reduce as he earns income, but there are work incentives that let him keep some earnings without dollar-for-dollar reduction. Even if he earns enough that his SSI stops completely, he can often keep Medicaid coverage through the 1619(b) program. If he's feeling better and wants to try working, he should absolutely pursue that without fear of owing back payments.

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StarSailor

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Thank you so much for this information! I was terrified he'd be trapped forever because of repayment fears. I'll look into the Ticket to Work program right away. Do you know if he needs to notify SSA before he starts looking for work, or only after he gets a job? His PTSD makes him anxious about doing something wrong with the system.

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Ava Garcia

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my cousin was on SSI for like 5 years and got a job at walmart and nobody asked him to pay anything back. they just reduced his checks when he started working and eventually stopped them. but he didnt have to pay back the old money

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Miguel Silva

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That's not always true!!! The SSA can and WILL demand repayment if they determine there was fraud or failure to report income. I know someone who had to repay $14,000 because they didn't report a part-time job. The system is DESIGNED to trap people!!!

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Zainab Ismail

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Let me clarify some important details about SSI and work: 1. SSI recipients are NEVER required to repay benefits that were correctly paid. If he was eligible when he received them, they're his to keep. 2. SSI has specific work incentives designed to help people transition to employment: - The first $85 of monthly earnings has no impact on SSI benefits - After that, SSI is reduced by $1 for every $2 earned - He can keep Medicaid even if SSI payments stop due to work (1619b program) 3. Your son should connect with a WIPA (Work Incentives Planning and Assistance) counselor - they provide free benefits counseling. 4. The Ticket to Work program offers employment support and protection from continuing disability reviews while participating. Encourage him to try working. The system has safeguards specifically designed for this situation.

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StarSailor

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This is incredibly helpful! I had no idea about the $85 exemption or the 1:2 reduction ratio. That makes it much less scary to try working. Do you know how we find a WIPA counselor in our area? And would that counselor help him understand how to properly report income to avoid any problems?

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My brother got SSDI (not SSI) but maybe similar? He tried working and they have this thing called Trial Work Period where u can work 9 months (doesn't have to be in a row) and still get full benefits. After that there's some other period where they slowly reduce it. He ended up back on full benefits when his health got worse again but nobody ever said ANYTHING about paying back the old checks.

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SSDI and SSI are completely different programs! SSDI has the Trial Work Period but SSI does not. SSI has the $85 exclusion and 1-for-2 reduction instead. People need to stop comparing them - they have totally different rules and spreading misinformation just confuses people who are already struggling with a complicated system.

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Yara Nassar

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I know exactly how frustrating dealing with SSA can be when you're trying to help someone navigate their benefits. When my daughter needed help with her disability application, I spent WEEKS trying to reach someone at SSA by phone. Either busy signals, disconnected calls, or hours on hold. I finally discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com) which got me connected to a real SSA agent in under 20 minutes. They have this great video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU For your son's situation, I'd definitely recommend speaking directly with an SSA rep to get the specific details about his work options. Having a clear understanding directly from SSA would give him peace of mind about trying employment without risking repayment issues.

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StarSailor

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Thanks for the suggestion! I've tried calling SSA several times and keep getting disconnected. I'll check out that service because my son gets extremely anxious with phone calls and waiting on hold makes his PTSD symptoms worse. Having a definitive answer from SSA would really help his peace of mind.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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One more important thing - if your son is seriously interested in working, he should also look into whether his state offers any special programs for people with criminal records. Many states now have re-entry programs that can help with job placement, additional training, and sometimes even incentives for employers who hire people with past convictions. These programs combined with SSA's work incentives can make a huge difference in successful transitions. The combination of PTSD and a felony record does make employment more challenging, but it's absolutely possible with the right supports in place.

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StarSailor

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That's an excellent suggestion. I know he's worried about the felony record being a permanent barrier. I'll research what our state offers for re-entry services. He's especially interested in trade work where he wouldn't have to interact with too many people at once (part of his PTSD anxiety). Do you know if the Ticket to Work program ever includes vocational training?

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Ava Garcia

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hey just curious how did ur son qualify for SSI with a prison record? my brother got denied and they said something about felonies making it harder

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StarSailor

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The felony itself doesn't disqualify someone - it was his diagnosed PTSD from the solitary confinement that qualified him. He has documented therapy records and several hospitalizations that supported his application. If your brother has mental health impacts from his experience, he might want to appeal with additional medical documentation.

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It makes me SO ANGRY how SSA sets people up to fail! $1150 isn't enough to live on ANYWHERE in this country, but if you try to supplement with work they slash your benefits! And the reporting requirements are IMPOSSIBLE to keep up with perfectly! One mistake and they'll demand thousands in repayments!!! I'm not saying don't try working - just be EXTREMELY careful about reporting EVERY PENNY earned and keep ALL documentation. The system is designed to trap people in poverty, and they'll use any excuse to say you committed fraud.

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Zainab Ismail

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While I understand your frustration with the benefit amounts, there are important protections in place. SSA does allow reporting mistakes to be corrected without fraud allegations in most cases. What's critical is reporting promptly and keeping good records. The work incentives actually allow people to keep a significant portion of their earnings while gradually reducing benefits. Many successful transitions happen every day.

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Miguel Silva

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I've been on SSI for 15 years and tried working 3 different times. One thing nobody mentioned is how SLOW the SSA is with adjusting your benefits when you report income. One time I reported my new job immediately, but they didn't adjust my check for 3 months, then suddenly wanted all that money back! I had to set up a payment plan. Not saying this to discourage your son, but make sure he SAVES some money when he starts working because the adjustments are never smooth or timely.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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This is unfortunately a common experience. One strategy I recommend is to set aside 50% of earnings in a separate account until you see how SSA adjusts your benefits. That way you're prepared if there's a delay in processing. You can also request an "advance notice" in writing that makes SSA calculate the impact before they make any changes, which gives you more time to prepare.

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StarSailor

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Thank you all so much for the information and advice. My son and I talked about everything shared here, and he feels much more confident about trying to work knowing he won't automatically owe back all his past benefits. We're going to: 1. Look into the Ticket to Work program and find a WIPA counselor 2. Research our state's re-entry programs for people with felony records 3. Set up a savings account to prepare for any benefit adjustment delays 4. Try to get clear documentation from SSA about his reporting responsibilities He's still nervous about the process but feels hopeful for the first time in years. His therapist agrees that meaningful work could be really beneficial for his recovery, especially if he can find something that accommodates his anxiety triggers. I can't thank this community enough for all the guidance!

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