Can my 84-year-old mom switch to my late dad's Social Security survivor benefits after taking her own at 62?
Mom took her Social Security at 62 (she's 84 now) while Dad waited until his full retirement age to start collecting. Dad passed away last month and we're trying to figure out if Mom can switch to survivor benefits based on his record. Would she get his full amount or would it be reduced because she took her own benefits early? The funeral home said something about survivor benefits but didn't really explain the details. Mom's monthly payment is about $1,250 and Dad was getting around $2,750. Does anyone know how this works? Does her age now (84) matter or just the fact that she started her own benefits early?
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Jayden Reed
Yes, your mom can absolutely switch to survivor benefits! When a spouse passes away, the surviving spouse can receive the higher of either their own benefit or their deceased spouse's benefit. Since your dad's benefit was higher, your mom should be eligible to receive his full $2,750 amount (minus any Medicare premiums). The fact that she claimed her own benefits early at 62 doesn't affect her survivor benefits at this point. What matters is that she's now the surviving spouse. She needs to contact Social Security as soon as possible by calling 1-800-772-1213 to report the death and apply for survivor benefits. She'll need your dad's death certificate. Just be prepared for potentially long wait times when calling.
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Grace Johnson
•Thank you so much! This is such a relief to hear. I was worried her early filing would somehow reduce the survivor amount. I'll help her make the call to SSA tomorrow. Does she need anything besides the death certificate when we call?
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Nora Brooks
my mom went thru this last yr... its definetly true she can get his full amount! but ssa doesnt automatically switch her, u HAVE to call them and apply 4 the survivor benfit. took my mom almost 2 months to get anyone on the phone tho ugh
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Grace Johnson
•Ugh, that's what I was afraid of. She really needs that higher payment ASAP since she's struggling with just her lower amount. Any tips for actually getting through to someone?
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Eli Wang
I've been through this process and can confirm what others have said - your mom will receive your dad's higher benefit amount. The technical term is that she'll receive the "greater of" her own benefit or up to 100% of your dad's benefit. One important thing: Survivor benefits are NOT retroactive very far back, so apply immediately. She'll only get back payments from the time of application, not from the time of death. Every month of delay means lost money. When she calls, she'll need: - Your dad's death certificate - Their marriage certificate - Both their Social Security numbers - Her banking information for direct deposit - Her ID But honestly, getting through to SSA is the biggest challenge right now. I spent days trying to reach someone.
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Grace Johnson
•Thank you for the list! I didn't realize she'd need the marriage certificate too. I'll make sure to have all of this ready. It's so frustrating that waiting to get through means potentially losing money that she's entitled to.
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Cassandra Moon
The SSA phone system is COMPLETELY BROKEN!!! I tried for THREE WEEKS to get through for my own issue and kept getting disconnected or told to call back later. This is how they treat seniors who paid into the system their whole lives?? DISGRACEFUL!!! Your poor mother shouldn't have to deal with this stress after losing her husband. The whole system needs to be overhauled!
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Zane Hernandez
•I know right? My aunt tried calling for weeks too. Eventually she just gave up and drove to the local office even though she has mobility issues. It's ridiculous they make it so hard.
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Genevieve Cavalier
After struggling to reach SSA for a similar survivor benefit situation, I discovered a service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an agent quickly. I was skeptical at first, but it actually worked - I got through to a real person in about 25 minutes instead of spending days trying. They have a video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The website is claimyr.com if you want to check it out. It was worth it for me because I needed to get my mom's survivor benefits started ASAP after my dad passed.
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Grace Johnson
•Thank you for this suggestion! I just watched the video and this looks like exactly what we need. I'm going to try it tomorrow because Mom really can't afford to wait weeks for that higher payment to start. I appreciate the tip!
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Ethan Scott
sorry about ur dad. when my husband died the funeral home actually filed something with ss for me. did they do that for ur mom? they should have but maybe check with them.
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Grace Johnson
•Thank you for the kind words. The funeral home did say they filed something, but they also said Mom still needs to call SSA directly to apply for the survivor benefits. I think maybe they just reported the death? It wasn't very clear.
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Jayden Reed
To clarify what happens with the funeral home: They typically submit Form SSA-721 (Statement of Death by Funeral Director), which only notifies SSA of the death. This doesn't automatically start survivor benefits - that requires a separate application. Also, I want to point out that your mom will need to specifically ask for the "Lump Sum Death Benefit" of $255 when she calls. It's not much, but it's something, and SSA doesn't always mention it if you don't ask. One last thing - her benefits will convert to survivor benefits the month after application approval, not retroactively to your dad's death, so time really is of the essence here.
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Grace Johnson
•Thank you for this extra information! I'll make sure to ask about the death benefit too. She can definitely use that $255. I'm now very motivated to get her application in ASAP so she doesn't lose any more money.
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Zane Hernandez
My grandma got survivors benefits last year but she was so confused because they kept asking her about her own retirement date. I think it DOES matter when your mom took her benefits originally because my grandma had to fill out some extra paperwork. Maybe different rules for different ages? I'm not sure but thought I'd mention it just in case.
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Eli Wang
•The rules are actually quite straightforward, though SSA representatives sometimes create confusion. For a widow/widower at full retirement age or older (which at 84, OP's mother definitely is), they're entitled to 100% of the deceased spouse's benefit if it's higher than their own, regardless of when they claimed their own benefits. The confusion might arise during the application process, but the end result should be receiving the higher amount.
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Nora Brooks
one more thing... when my mom finally got her survivors benefits they gave her back pay from when my dad died, not just from when she applied! so make sure ur mom asks about that!!
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Jayden Reed
•That's not typically how it works - survivor benefits are usually payable from the month of application, not death. Your mom may have had a unique situation, or perhaps she applied within the same month as your dad's passing. The official policy is that retroactive benefits for widow(er)s are limited to 6 months maximum, and only if the application is delayed beyond the first eligible month. But it never hurts to ask!
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James Martinez
I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. I went through this exact situation with my grandmother a few years ago. She was also receiving reduced benefits from claiming early, but when my grandfather passed, she was able to switch to his full survivor benefit amount. At 84, your mom is well past full retirement age, so she should definitely be eligible for your dad's full $2,750 monthly benefit. The early filing penalty on her own benefits doesn't carry over to survivor benefits - that's a completely separate calculation. A few practical tips from my experience: Try calling SSA first thing in the morning (8am) when they open - you'll have better luck getting through. Also, if you have a local SSA office nearby, you might consider going in person if the phone system is too frustrating. Some offices take walk-ins for urgent matters like survivor benefits. Make sure to ask specifically about when the benefits will start - sometimes there can be a delay between approval and the first payment, so knowing the timeline helps with budgeting. Your mom really deserves that higher payment after what she's been through.
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Grace Lee
I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. This is such a difficult time, and dealing with government bureaucracy on top of grief is incredibly stressful. Your mom is absolutely entitled to your dad's full $2,750 benefit since it's higher than her own. At 84, she's well past full retirement age, so there's no reduction for her current age. The fact that she took her own benefits early at 62 doesn't affect her survivor benefits at all - they're calculated separately. A few things that might help with the SSA call: - Try calling right at 8am when they open - Have someone else (like you) on the call to help advocate for her - If you get disconnected, don't give up - it's unfortunately common - Consider visiting your local SSA office in person if phone calls aren't working The difference between $1,250 and $2,750 is huge for someone on a fixed income, so every month of delay really matters. I hope you can get through to them quickly and get this sorted out for her. She's earned this benefit and deserves to receive it without having to jump through hoops. Keep us updated on how it goes!
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QuantumQuest
•Thank you so much for your kind words and practical advice, Grace. It really helps to hear from someone who understands how overwhelming this whole process can be. The tip about having someone on the call with her is especially good - I hadn't thought of that but it makes total sense given how confusing SSA can be sometimes. I'm definitely going to try the 8am call strategy tomorrow and will keep the local office visit as a backup plan. You're absolutely right that the $1,500 monthly difference is huge for her budget. I'll definitely update everyone once we get through this process - hopefully it helps other families going through the same thing.
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Sofia Ramirez
I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. Losing a parent is never easy, and having to navigate the SSA bureaucracy during this difficult time makes it even harder. The good news is that your mom is absolutely entitled to your dad's full survivor benefit of $2,750 since it's higher than her current $1,250. At 84, she's well beyond full retirement age, so she qualifies for 100% of his benefit amount. The early filing at 62 on her own record doesn't impact survivor benefits at all - they're completely separate calculations. I'd suggest trying a few different approaches to reach SSA: 1. Call exactly at 8:00 AM when they open - you'll have the best chance of getting through 2. Try calling on Tuesday-Thursday (Mondays and Fridays tend to be busiest) 3. Consider having yourself or another family member as her authorized representative on the call 4. If all else fails, visit your local SSA field office in person One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if your mom has any mobility or health issues that make phone calls difficult, SSA can sometimes expedite cases or provide additional assistance for vulnerable seniors. Don't hesitate to mention this when you do get through. The $1,500 monthly difference is substantial and will make a real impact on her quality of life. Wishing you both the best getting this resolved quickly.
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LunarLegend
•Thank you so much, Sofia! Your suggestion about mentioning any mobility or health issues is really helpful - Mom does have some hearing difficulties that make phone calls challenging, so I'll definitely bring that up when we call. I hadn't realized that might qualify for expedited processing. The Tuesday-Thursday tip is also great - I was planning to call tomorrow (not sure what day it is) but I'll make sure to pick a mid-week day. Really appreciate all the practical advice from everyone here. It's such a relief to know that so many people have successfully navigated this process and that Mom will get the full amount she deserves.
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Emma Garcia
I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. Going through this process while grieving is incredibly difficult, but I wanted to share what worked for my family when we were in a similar situation. Your mom is definitely entitled to your dad's full $2,750 benefit since it's higher than her current amount. At 84, she qualifies for 100% of his survivor benefit regardless of when she claimed her own benefits early. Here's what finally worked for us after weeks of trying to get through to SSA: - Call exactly at 7:59 AM and press the buttons the moment they open at 8:00 AM - Use the callback feature if available rather than staying on hold - Try the Spanish language option (press 2) - sometimes those lines are less busy, and they can transfer you to an English-speaking agent - If you get through but the agent seems confused about survivor benefits, politely ask to speak with someone who specializes in survivor benefits Also, consider contacting your congressional representative's office for constituent services - they can sometimes help cut through SSA red tape for seniors, especially in urgent situations like this where your mom needs the higher payment to cover her expenses. The financial difference this will make for your mom is huge, so don't give up. You're being a wonderful advocate for her during this difficult time.
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Sofia Gomez
•Thank you so much for these detailed strategies, Emma! The tip about trying the Spanish line and then asking for a transfer is brilliant - I never would have thought of that. And I definitely hadn't considered reaching out to our congressional representative's office. That's a really good backup option if we continue to have trouble getting through. I'm feeling much more confident about tackling this tomorrow with all these specific tactics. It means so much to have support from people who've actually been through this process. I'll try the 7:59 AM approach and see if that callback feature is available. Really appreciate you taking the time to share what worked for your family!
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Liam O'Donnell
I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. My heart goes out to you and your mom during this difficult time. I can confirm what others have said - your mom absolutely can and should switch to survivor benefits based on your dad's record. At 84, she's well past full retirement age and will be entitled to his full $2,750 monthly benefit since it's higher than her current $1,250. The fact that she took her own benefits early at 62 won't reduce her survivor benefits at all - they're calculated completely separately. One thing I'd add that I haven't seen mentioned yet: when you do get through to SSA, make sure to ask about the effective date of the survivor benefits. Sometimes they can make them effective the month of death rather than the month of application, especially if there were delays in getting through to them that weren't your fault. Also, if your mom has any difficulty with phone calls due to hearing or other issues, you can become her authorized representative for this call. Just mention that at the beginning and they'll have her verbally authorize you to speak on her behalf. The monthly difference of $1,500 will make such a huge impact on her quality of life. Don't give up if the first few calls don't go through - she's absolutely entitled to this benefit and it's worth the persistence. Wishing you both strength during this process.
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Ethan Anderson
•Thank you for the compassionate words and helpful advice, Liam. I really appreciate you mentioning the possibility of making the survivor benefits effective from the month of death rather than application - that could mean a significant difference in back pay for Mom. I'll definitely ask about that when we call. The tip about becoming her authorized representative is also really valuable since she does struggle with phone calls sometimes. It's encouraging to hear from so many people who've successfully navigated this process. The $1,500 monthly difference really will be life-changing for her, especially with all the expenses that come up after losing a spouse. Thank you for the reminder to be persistent - I won't give up until we get this sorted out for her.
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GalacticGuru
I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. Losing a parent is incredibly difficult, and having to navigate government bureaucracy during grief makes it even harder. Your mom is absolutely entitled to your dad's full $2,750 survivor benefit since it's higher than her current amount. At 84, she qualifies for 100% regardless of when she filed her own benefits - survivor benefits are calculated completely separately from her early filing at 62. Here are some additional strategies that helped when my aunt went through this: - Try calling right before lunch (11:30 AM-12:00 PM) when call volume sometimes dips - If you get a busy signal, hang up and immediately redial - don't wait - Ask specifically for the "survivor benefits department" when you get through - Consider downloading the SSA mobile app to check if you can start any paperwork online first Also, make sure to mention that your mom is 84 and may have difficulty with long phone waits - sometimes they can expedite cases for elderly callers or offer a callback option. The $1,500 monthly increase will make such a difference in her quality of life. She paid into this system her whole working life and deserves every penny. Stay persistent - you're being an amazing advocate for her during this tough time.
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Emma Davis
•Thank you for all these helpful strategies! The tip about calling right before lunch is one I hadn't heard yet - that's a great insight about when call volume might be lower. I'll definitely try that timing if the early morning approach doesn't work. The suggestion to ask specifically for the "survivor benefits department" is also really smart - it could save time getting transferred around. I'm going to check out that SSA mobile app too to see if we can get any of the paperwork started online before calling. It's so reassuring to have all these different approaches to try. Mom has been through enough stress already, and knowing that there are multiple ways to reach SSA gives me hope that we'll get through eventually. Really appreciate you sharing what worked for your aunt!
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Dmitry Petrov
I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. Losing a parent is never easy, and dealing with Social Security on top of everything else just adds to the stress. The great news is that your mom will definitely be able to get your dad's full $2,750 monthly benefit! At 84, she's well past full retirement age, so she qualifies for 100% of his survivor benefit. The fact that she took her own benefits early at 62 doesn't matter at all for survivor benefits - they're completely separate calculations. I went through this exact situation with my grandmother two years ago. She was also getting a reduced benefit from filing early, but once we got through to SSA, they switched her to my grandfather's much higher amount with no reduction. A couple of tips that really helped us: - Call exactly at 8:00 AM when they open - set multiple alarms! - Have all the documents ready: death certificate, marriage certificate, both Social Security numbers - Don't hang up if you get put on hold, even if it's a long wait - Ask about the $255 lump sum death benefit too The hardest part is just getting through to a human being, but once you do, the actual process was pretty straightforward for us. That extra $1,500 per month will make such a huge difference for your mom's quality of life. Hang in there - she's absolutely entitled to this benefit and it's worth the hassle to get it sorted out.
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Natasha Petrova
•Thank you so much, Dmitry! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation with their grandmother. The tip about setting multiple alarms for 8:00 AM is great - I definitely don't want to miss that window when the lines might be less busy. I'm glad to hear that once you actually got through to someone, the process was straightforward. That gives me hope that we'll be able to get this resolved relatively quickly once we make contact. The reminder about not hanging up even during long holds is important too - I can see how it would be tempting to give up and try again later. I'll make sure to have all those documents ready and ask about the death benefit as well. Really appreciate you sharing your experience - it helps so much to know that other families have successfully navigated this process!
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Harper Thompson
I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. Losing a parent is heartbreaking, and having to navigate Social Security bureaucracy during your grief makes everything so much harder. Your mom is absolutely entitled to switch to your dad's full $2,750 survivor benefit! At 84, she's well past full retirement age and qualifies for 100% of his benefit since it's higher than her current $1,250. The early filing at 62 on her own record won't affect her survivor benefits at all - they're calculated completely separately. I just went through this process with my own mother-in-law last year. Here's what I learned: - Call SSA at exactly 8:00 AM when they open (seriously, have the number dialed and ready) - Try Tuesday through Thursday - avoid Mondays and Fridays if possible - Have all documents ready: death certificate, marriage certificate, both SSNs, and her banking info - Don't forget to ask about the $255 lump sum death benefit - If the first agent seems unsure about survivor benefits, politely ask to speak with someone who specializes in them The phone system is frustrating, but don't give up. That $1,500 monthly difference will be life-changing for your mom, especially at 84 when every dollar matters for her security and comfort. She worked hard her whole life and deserves this benefit. If phone calls become impossible, consider visiting your local SSA office in person. Sometimes face-to-face gets results when phone calls don't. Thinking of you both during this difficult time. You're being such a good advocate for her.
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Sean Flanagan
•Thank you so much for sharing your experience with your mother-in-law, Harper. It's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who just went through this process recently. I really appreciate the specific timing advice about Tuesday-Thursday calls and having everything dialed and ready right at 8:00 AM. The tip about asking to speak with someone who specializes in survivor benefits if the first agent seems unsure is really smart - I hadn't thought about that but it makes perfect sense. You're absolutely right that the $1,500 monthly difference will be life-changing for Mom, especially at her age. I'm feeling much more prepared now with all the advice from everyone here. The local SSA office visit is definitely going to be my backup plan if the phone system proves impossible. Thank you for the kind words about being a good advocate - she's been such a wonderful mom and deserves to get every benefit she's entitled to. I'll update everyone once we get through this process!
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