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Khalil Urso

Can Social Security benefits be garnished for a personal loan I co-signed but relative won't pay?

My dad co-signed a promissory note for my brother back in 2023 for about $15,000. My brother has completely refused to make any payments and now won't even respond to calls about it. The lender is threatening to come after my dad, who's 69 and living solely on his Social Security retirement benefits of about $2,100/month. Can they actually garnish his Social Security for this? He's starting to panic because that's literally all he has to live on. He never thought my brother would just bail on the loan completely. Does anyone know what protections he might have or what he should do next?

I went through something similar with my nephew a few years ago (though smaller amount). Social Security retirement benefits ARE protected from most creditors, but there are exceptions. Private debts like personal loans usually can't touch Social Security, unlike federal debts like taxes or student loans. BUT - if the creditor gets a court judgment and your dad has the benefits deposited into a bank account, some states allow banks to freeze accounts even with SS money. I got around this by using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to reach a Social Security agent quickly to set up direct deposit to a prepaid card instead of my regular bank account. They have a good video explaining how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Definitely tell your dad to look into that option while figuring out the loan situation.

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Thank you so much for this information. I had no idea about the bank account freeze possibility - that's scary since he does direct deposit to his checking account. I'll definitely check out that Claimyr service to talk with SSA about changing his payment method. Did it take long for you to get through with their service?

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To give you accurate information: Social Security benefits are generally protected from garnishment by most creditors under federal law (Section 207 of the Social Security Act). There are only a few exceptions which include: - Federal tax debts (IRS) - Student loan debt owed to the Department of Education - Child support or alimony - Certain other federal debts A private loan or promissory note wouldn't qualify under these exceptions. However, your father should be aware that: 1. If the creditor sues and gets a judgment, they may be able to place liens on property 2. As mentioned, some banks may temporarily freeze accounts containing SS funds 3. Any other income or assets he has aren't protected Your father should consider consulting with a legal aid attorney who specializes in elder law in your state. Many offer free consultations for seniors.

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my cousin had his account froze even with ss money in it took him 3 weeks to get it unfroze!!! they dont care where the money comes from once they got a judgment

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I WENT THROUGH THIS EXACT THING!!!! The bank FROZE my account after a judgment even though I only had Social Security in there!!! It was LEGAL but totally UNFAIR! They kept it frozen for almost 2 weeks while I had to PROVE the money was protected SS funds. Meanwhile I couldn't pay my rent or buy food!!! Your dad needs to be VERY CAREFUL about this. The courts don't care that he was just trying to help family. PROTECT HIMSELF NOW before they get a judgment!!

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Oh my gosh, that sounds awful! Were you able to get it all sorted out eventually? Did you have to get a lawyer? My dad doesn't have money for legal help right now.

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Here's the practical solution your father should implement immediately: 1. Open a new account at a different bank specifically for SS benefits 2. Contact SSA to change his direct deposit to this new account 3. Only keep minimal funds in this account, withdrawing what he needs 4. Contact the lender proactively to try negotiating a payment plan 5. Get free legal consultation from: - Legal Aid in your county - Senior Legal Hotline (many states have these) - Area Agency on Aging Also, your father should document every communication with his son about the loan. If this goes to court, he'll want evidence that he attempted to resolve this reasonably.

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This is excellent advice. I'd add that when he calls SSA to change the direct deposit, he should specifically ask about their "Direct Express" card option. It's a special debit card for federal benefits that has some additional protections against garnishment. Much safer than a regular bank account in his situation.

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sorry but why did ur dad sign for ur brother if he couldnt afford to pay the loan himself? not trying to be harsh but thats what cosigning means - ur saying youll pay if they dont. maybe he can work out a payment plan with the lender?

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You're right, and that's what's making this so stressful. He signed because my brother had just started a new job and promised he'd make all the payments. Dad was trying to help him build credit. Now he realizes it was a huge mistake but it's too late. A payment plan might work, but on just $2,100/month, he barely covers his own expenses.

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This happened to my aunt last year with my cousin! So stressful. She ended up having to pay some of it but worked with the lender to reduce the total. One thing nobody mentioned - check the statute of limitations for promissory notes in your state. In some states it's only 2-3 years, others it's longer. If enough time passes they can't legally collect anymore. Also the lender has to actually file in court and get a judgment before they can do anything, and sometimes they just threaten but don't follow through because of the legal costs. Hope your dad gets this sorted out!

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This is important information about the statute of limitations, but I should clarify that in most states, the statute of limitations for written contracts (which includes promissory notes) is longer than for verbal agreements - typically 4-6 years, but in some states like Ohio it's 8 years, and in others like Kentucky it's as long as 15 years. The clock typically starts from the date of the first missed payment, not the signing date.

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i thought social security was protected but my uncles wasnt when he owed child support they took like 60% straight from his disability check every month

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Your uncle's situation was different because child support is one of the few exceptions where Social Security benefits CAN be garnished. The federal Consumer Credit Protection Act allows garnishment of up to 65% of Social Security benefits for child support. But for private debts like the loan OP's father co-signed, Social Security benefits are protected from garnishment under Section 207 of the Social Security Act.

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call that brother and set him straight! family shouldnt do this to family especially when its ur own father trying to help u out. shame on him. ur dad needs to talk to the lender right away and explain the situation maybe they can work something out. credit unions are usually more understanding than big banks for this kinda thing

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Believe me, I've tried talking to my brother. He's completely ghosted the whole family at this point. You're right though, I should encourage Dad to talk directly with the lender - it's actually a local credit union so they might be more willing to work with him.

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One more important thing: if your father is receiving ONLY Social Security retirement, he should send the creditor (and their attorneys if they have any) a formal letter stating that his only income is Social Security benefits, which are exempt from garnishment under 42 U.S.C. § 407. Include his Social Security award letter or benefit statements as proof. This won't stop them from pursuing legal action, but it puts them on notice that even if they win a judgment, collection will be difficult. Sometimes this is enough to get them to offer a much reduced settlement.

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This is really helpful, thank you. I'll help him draft this letter right away. Do you think he should send it certified mail so we have proof they received it?

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Absolutely send it certified mail with return receipt requested! That creates a paper trail showing they received notice of his protected status. Also keep copies of everything - the letter, the certified mail receipt, and any responses. This documentation could be crucial if they try to pursue garnishment later. You might also want to send a copy to any collection agency or law firm that contacts him about the debt.

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I'm so sorry your family is going through this - it's heartbreaking when someone you trust completely abandons their responsibilities. Your dad's Social Security benefits should be protected from garnishment for this type of private debt, but as others have mentioned, the real danger is account freezing. I'd strongly recommend he act quickly on the suggestions about changing his direct deposit method. Also, many states have "judgment proof" protections for seniors living solely on Social Security - he might want to look into whether your state has specific elder protection laws. Document everything about your brother's refusal to pay and any communications with the lender. Sometimes showing good faith effort to resolve the situation can lead to better settlement terms. Hang in there!

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Thank you for the kind words and practical advice. I'm definitely going to look into our state's elder protection laws - I hadn't thought about that angle. The "judgment proof" status sounds like something that could really help his situation. It's been so hard watching him stress about this when he was just trying to help family. I'll make sure he documents everything going forward and acts quickly on changing his payment method. Really appreciate everyone's help here!

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I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share that my grandmother went through something similar when my uncle defaulted on a car loan she co-signed. One thing that really helped was contacting AARP's legal helpline - they have free resources specifically for seniors dealing with debt issues and can connect you with local legal aid. Also, if your dad hasn't already, he should pull his credit report to see exactly what's being reported about this debt. Sometimes there are errors that can be disputed, which might buy some time. The emotional toll of family betrayal like this is almost worse than the financial stress - make sure your dad knows he's not alone and that he was just being a caring father.

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As someone new to this community, I want to echo what others have said about protecting your dad's Social Security benefits. The good news is that for private debts like this promissory note, his benefits are legally protected from garnishment under federal law. However, the bank account freeze issue is very real and scary - I've seen it happen to people even when they only had protected funds in their accounts. Here's what I'd suggest your dad do immediately: 1) Contact the credit union directly to explain his situation and try to negotiate - since it's a local credit union, they may be more understanding than a big bank, 2) Look into getting his benefits on a Direct Express card or separate protected account as others mentioned, and 3) Send that formal letter about his protected income status via certified mail. The most important thing is that your dad shouldn't panic or make any rushed decisions. His Social Security income IS protected by law, but he needs to take proactive steps to prevent complications like account freezing. Also consider reaching out to your state's Area Agency on Aging - they often have free resources and legal assistance for seniors facing exactly these kinds of situations. Your dad was just trying to help family, and there are protections in place for people in his position.

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Welcome to the community! Your advice is really comprehensive and reassuring. I especially appreciate you mentioning the Area Agency on Aging - I didn't know they had legal assistance programs for seniors. That could be a great resource since Dad doesn't have money for a private attorney right now. It's comforting to hear from someone new that his Social Security really is protected by federal law. The proactive approach you outlined makes a lot of sense rather than just waiting and worrying. I'll definitely help him reach out to both the credit union and the Area Agency on Aging this week. Thank you for taking the time to share such detailed guidance!

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share some additional resources that might help your dad's situation. Since he's 69 and this involves potential elder financial abuse (even if unintentional from family), he should know about the National Center on Elder Abuse hotline at 1-855-500-3537 - they can provide guidance on protecting seniors from financial exploitation. Also, many states have specific "homestead exemptions" that protect a primary residence from creditors even if they get a judgment, which might give your dad additional peace of mind about his living situation. The key thing everyone's mentioned is absolutely right - act fast on protecting that bank account before any legal action starts. Credit unions are generally more willing to work with members in hardship situations, so definitely have him call them directly to explain he's a senior on fixed income and see what options they might offer. Document everything and don't let him feel guilty - he was being a loving father trying to help his son succeed.

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Thank you for sharing those additional resources! I hadn't heard of the National Center on Elder Abuse hotline before - that's really valuable information. The homestead exemption is something I should definitely look into for my dad's situation since he owns his home. You're absolutely right about acting fast on the bank account protection. I feel much more confident now with all these resources and steps to take. It really helps to hear from people like you who understand that he was just trying to be a good father. Sometimes family situations like this make you question everything, but the support here has been amazing. I'll make sure to save that hotline number and look up our state's homestead laws. Thanks for being so welcoming to newcomers and sharing your knowledge!

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I'm new to this community but wanted to add something I learned when my elderly neighbor went through a similar situation. In addition to all the great advice about protecting Social Security benefits, your dad should also be aware that some creditors will try scare tactics like calling multiple times a day or sending threatening letters to pressure seniors into paying from their protected income. He has rights under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) - he can demand they only contact him in writing, and he can dispute the debt if there are any inaccuracies. Also, if this goes to court, many courts have "senior dockets" or expedited hearings for people over 65 to reduce stress. The most important thing is that your dad shouldn't feel ashamed - co-signing for family is something many loving parents do, and he couldn't have predicted your brother would completely abandon his responsibility. Focus on the practical steps everyone mentioned, and remember that there are legal protections specifically designed for people in his exact situation.

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