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Molly Hansen

Can Social Security retirement benefits be garnished for child support arrears and tax liens?

My brother turns 65 in about two weeks and is planning to apply for his Social Security retirement benefits. The problem is he's got some significant financial issues hanging over his head. He owes around $18,000 in back child support (his youngest is now 23 but he fell behind years ago) plus he has both federal and state tax liens from a failed business about 8 years ago. He's been avoiding dealing with all this, but now he's worried they'll just take his entire SS check if he files. Can he even collect Social Security with these debts? Will they garnish everything? He's been working odd jobs for cash but can't keep going physically and really needs to start his benefits. Any advice on what percentage they might take or if there's any way to protect some of his benefits?

Yes, he can still collect Social Security retirement benefits, but a portion can be garnished for child support arrears and federal debts. For child support, they can take up to 65% of his benefits. Federal tax debt can take up to 15% of his benefits through the Federal Payment Levy Program. State tax liens are more complicated - some states can garnish for state taxes, others can't. But Social Security will never take 100% of his benefits. He should contact the agencies he owes and try to set up payment plans before filing - might get better terms than automatic garnishment.

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Thanks, that's really helpful. Do you know if they take the child support percentage first and THEN the 15% for federal taxes from what's left? Or is it a combined maximum? My brother is panicking thinking he'll only end up with like $200 a month.

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my cousin had this same problem last yr. they took like 50% for the child support but he still got the rest. idk about the tax stuff tho

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That's good to know they didn't take everything. Did your cousin do anything special to make arrangements before filing or did they just automatically start taking the money?

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Your brother should file ASAP regardless of the debt situation!!! The SSA isn't going to deny him benefits because of debts, but he's LOSING MONEY every month he delays past full retirement age. Even if some gets garnished, that's better than $0, right? Also, he should check if he qualifies for the child support debt forgiveness programs some states have started. They won't wipe it all but might reduce it. DONT let him keep working under the table instead of claiming SS - that's just digging a deeper hole!!

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You make a really good point. He's actually been eligible for almost a year but kept putting it off because of this debt fear. I'll tell him he needs to file ASAP regardless. Do you know if there's any protected minimum amount they have to leave him for living expenses?

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There are some important protections your brother should know about. First, for child support arrears, there's usually a maximum of 50-65% that can be withheld, depending on whether he's supporting another person. For federal tax debt, the Treasury's Financial Management Service can withhold up to 15% through the Federal Payment Levy Program. However, some key points: 1. There is a sequential order to these garnishments - child support takes priority over federal tax debt 2. State tax collection varies by state - some can't touch Social Security at all 3. He should consider setting up voluntary payment plans with each agency BEFORE the automatic garnishments kick in 4. There are hardship provisions he can apply for if the garnishments would leave him without enough to live on He should definitely still file for benefits. Even with garnishments, he'll receive some income, and continuing to delay is just costing him money.

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Thank you for explaining that so clearly. I didn't know child support takes priority or about the hardship provisions. Do you know how to apply for the hardship exemption? Is that through SSA or through the agencies collecting the debt?

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sounds like ur brother waited WAY too long to deal with this!! no offense but why would anyone let child support go that long?? my ex tried that and they suspended his license and everything. anyway good luck but hes gonna lose a big chunk of that check for sure

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Not everyone's situation is the same. Some people fall on hard times and can't catch up once they get behind. My brother had medical issues and couldn't work for 3 years. By the time he could work again, the amount was so high he couldn't manage the regular payment plus the arrears.

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I spent HOURS trying to get through to someone at SSA to ask questions about my own garnishment situation. Kept getting disconnected or waiting for 2+ hours. Finally found a service called Claimyr that got me connected to an SSA agent in about 15 minutes! Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Your brother really needs to talk directly to SSA about his specific situation because there are so many factors that affect garnishment amounts. They were actually really helpful once I finally got through to a human.

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That's a great tip, thank you! My brother tried calling SSA last week and gave up after being on hold for over an hour. I'll definitely pass this along to him because he needs some official answers about his specific situation.

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WAIT! Has your brother checked his earnings record on the SSA website??? If he's been working under the table for years, his benefit amount might be MUCH lower than he thinks! He needs to create an account at ssa.gov and look at his estimated benefit RIGHT NOW before making any decisions!!! This could be an even bigger problem than the garnishments!

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Oh no, I didn't even think about that. I know he worked legitimate jobs with payroll for most of his career, but the last 5-6 years have been spotty with a lot of cash work. I'll make sure he checks his earnings record. Do you know if there's any way to estimate how much lower his benefit might be?

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To answer your question about the order of garnishments: Yes, they take the child support first (up to 50-65%), and then the federal tax levy (up to 15%) comes out of what remains. However, there's good news - SSA implements something called the Minimum Garnishment Rule that ensures a beneficiary receives a minimum of $750 in benefits regardless of garnishments (in most cases). And regarding your brother's spotty work record - SSA calculates benefits based on his highest 35 years of earnings, so if he had solid earnings before the last 5-6 years, the impact might not be as severe as you fear.

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That minimum garnishment rule is exactly what I was hoping existed! That's a huge relief to know they can't take everything. $750 isn't much, but it's something he can count on at least. Thanks for that information.

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just wondering has he talked to the kid's mom? sometimes they can work something out directly for less $$ than the full amount if he starts making regular payments again. worth a shot

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That's actually a really good suggestion. They haven't spoken in years (it was a messy divorce), but maybe now that the kids are grown she'd be willing to negotiate. I'll suggest he reach out.

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One more important point - your brother should still file for his benefits even with these garnishment issues. If he's at full retirement age (66-67 depending on birth year) or beyond, he's already entitled to 100% of his benefit. Every month he delays filing is essentially giving up money he could be receiving, even if partially garnished. If he's only 65, he's filing slightly early (before Full Retirement Age), which means a permanently reduced benefit. I recommend he speak with an SSA representative to understand the exact impact of filing now versus waiting until his Full Retirement Age.

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I thought full retirement age was 65! Shows how much I know. I'll definitely check with him about his exact age for full benefits. He might be better off waiting a bit longer if he can manage financially.

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make sure he files ASAP before the end of the month!! there's no retroactive benefits for retirement if he misses the filing window!

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That's not exactly right. SSA allows up to 6 months of retroactive benefits for retirement claims if you're past full retirement age. But if he's only 65, he can't get retroactive benefits anyway since he's filing early. But I agree he shouldn't delay filing any longer!!

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I work for a nonprofit that helps people navigate Social Security issues, and I want to add a few practical steps your brother can take right now. First, he should absolutely file for benefits immediately - the longer he waits, the more money he's losing. Second, before the garnishments start automatically, he should contact both the child support enforcement agency and the IRS/state tax office to request hardship reviews and set up voluntary payment plans. These agencies often prefer voluntary arrangements over forced garnishments because it's less administrative work for them. Third, he should document any medical expenses, housing costs, and basic living expenses - if the combined garnishments would leave him below poverty level, he may qualify for reduced garnishment amounts. The key is being proactive rather than letting the system make decisions for him. Even with garnishments, some Social Security income is infinitely better than no income at all.

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I really appreciate you taking the time to lay out these specific action steps. The idea of being proactive with voluntary payment plans makes a lot of sense - I hadn't thought about how the agencies might prefer that over forced garnishments. I'm going to write all of this down and share it with my brother. Do you know roughly how long it typically takes for garnishments to start once someone begins receiving Social Security benefits? I'm wondering if he'll have a window to get these arrangements in place before automatic deductions begin.

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Typically there's about a 30-60 day window before garnishments begin after Social Security benefits start, but it varies by agency. Child support enforcement is usually faster (30-45 days) while federal tax garnishments through the Treasury Offset Program can take 60-90 days. This gives your brother time to contact the agencies proactively. I'd recommend he call them within the first week of filing his SS application to explain his situation and request payment plan options. Many agencies will hold off on automatic garnishments if they see good faith effort to set up voluntary payments. Just make sure any agreements are in writing!

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As someone who recently went through a similar situation with my father, I want to emphasize that your brother should definitely file for his Social Security benefits immediately. The garnishment percentages others have mentioned are correct - up to 65% for child support and 15% for federal taxes - but there are a few additional things to consider. First, make sure he understands that Social Security uses a "net benefit" calculation, meaning they don't just take percentages of his gross benefit amount. Second, if he has any ongoing medical expenses or disabilities, he should document these when requesting hardship considerations from the collection agencies. Third, many states have "compromised settlement" programs for old child support debt - especially when the children are now adults - that can significantly reduce what he owes if he can make a lump sum payment or commit to regular payments. The most important thing is that he stops avoiding this and takes action. Even with garnishments, he'll likely still receive several hundred dollars per month, which is better than the zero he's getting now by not filing.

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! The point about "compromised settlement" programs for old child support debt is something I hadn't heard of before - that could be huge for my brother since his kids are all adults now. Do you happen to know if these programs are available in most states, or is it something that varies widely? Also, when you mention documenting medical expenses for hardship considerations, does that include things like prescription costs and regular doctor visits, or are they mainly looking for major medical bills? I want to make sure he gathers the right documentation before contacting the agencies.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation with my own Social Security benefits and garnishments, so I wanted to share what I've learned through the process. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that your brother should request a detailed breakdown of exactly how much he owes to each agency before he files for benefits. Sometimes the amounts agencies claim are inflated with excessive interest and penalties that can be negotiated down. Also, if he's been working cash jobs, he might want to consider reporting some recent earnings to SSA to boost his benefit calculation - he can still file amended tax returns for up to 3 years back to get credit for unreported income. The other crucial point is that once garnishments start, they continue until the debt is paid off, but he can request reviews every year if his circumstances change. Given all the helpful advice in this thread, the consensus is clear - he needs to file immediately and deal with the garnishments rather than continuing to lose money by waiting. Even $500-800 a month after garnishments is better than the $0 he's getting now.

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This is really solid advice, especially about requesting a detailed breakdown of what he owes. I hadn't thought about the possibility that the amounts might be inflated with excessive penalties - that could make a huge difference in negotiations. The point about filing amended tax returns for unreported cash work is interesting too, though I'm wondering if that might create other complications with the IRS? I guess at this point though, anything that could increase his benefit amount would be worth exploring. You're absolutely right that even a few hundred dollars a month is infinitely better than zero. All the responses here have really reinforced that he needs to stop delaying and just file already!

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Your brother is in a tough spot, but he absolutely should not let fear of garnishments prevent him from filing for Social Security benefits. I went through something similar with my dad a few years ago. The key things to remember: 1) He's legally entitled to these benefits regardless of his debts, 2) Every month he delays past his full retirement age is money lost forever, 3) Even with maximum garnishments, he'll still receive some income which is better than the zero he's getting now. One practical tip - if he does have state tax liens, he should check his state's specific laws. Some states like Texas and Pennsylvania can't garnish Social Security for state taxes at all, while others can. The folks here have given great advice about contacting the agencies proactively to set up payment plans before automatic garnishments kick in. That's definitely the smartest approach. Don't let him keep putting this off!

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Thank you for sharing your experience with your dad - it really helps to hear from someone who's been through this. The point about state-specific laws is really important. I actually don't know which state my brother lives in for tax purposes since he's moved around a bit, but I'll make sure he checks his state's garnishment laws. It sounds like there might be some protection there depending on where he is. Everyone's advice here has been so helpful and really convinced me that he needs to stop worrying about the "what ifs" and just file. I'm going to sit down with him this weekend and help him get his application started. Better to have some money coming in, even with garnishments, than to keep losing out on benefits he's already earned.

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I'm a Social Security benefits counselor and wanted to add some clarity to help your brother move forward. The most important thing is that he files immediately - he's already lost money by delaying, and continuing to wait only makes it worse. Regarding garnishments, here's what will likely happen: child support gets first priority and can take up to 65% of his benefits, then federal taxes can take up to 15% of what remains. However, there's a federal minimum protection that should leave him with at least some income each month. Before he files, I strongly recommend he contact both the child support enforcement office and the IRS/state tax office to discuss voluntary payment arrangements - agencies often prefer these over automatic garnishments and may offer more favorable terms. He should also gather documentation of his basic living expenses (rent, utilities, food, medical costs) in case he needs to request hardship relief. The key is being proactive rather than reactive. Even if he ends up with only 30-40% of his full benefit after garnishments, that's still significant monthly income he's currently missing out on entirely.

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This is exactly the kind of professional guidance we needed! As someone new to navigating Social Security and debt issues, it's really reassuring to hear from an actual benefits counselor. The step-by-step approach you've outlined - filing immediately, contacting agencies proactively for voluntary arrangements, and gathering documentation for potential hardship relief - gives us a clear action plan. I'm curious about the timeline for setting up these voluntary payment arrangements. Should my brother try to get these in place before he files for Social Security, or is it okay to file first and then immediately contact the agencies? Also, when you mention gathering documentation for basic living expenses, are there specific forms or formats these agencies prefer, or is it more about having receipts and records organized? Thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed professional advice - it's exactly what we needed to move forward confidently.

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As someone who's been helping family members navigate similar issues, I'd suggest he file for Social Security first and then immediately contact the agencies - don't wait to get payment arrangements in place beforehand, as that could delay his benefits for months. The 30-60 day window before garnishments typically begin gives him time to negotiate. For documentation, most agencies accept simple bank statements, rent receipts, utility bills, and medical bills - nothing fancy required. The key is showing his monthly expenses exceed what would be left after maximum garnishments. One thing I learned is to keep copies of everything and get any payment agreements in writing. The agencies are usually more willing to work with people who are proactive rather than trying to dodge their calls.

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As someone who works in elder services, I want to emphasize that your brother's situation is actually quite common and manageable. The most critical thing is that he files for his Social Security benefits immediately - every month of delay is literally money out of his pocket that he can never recover. Here's what I typically advise clients in similar situations: 1) File the Social Security application online at ssa.gov right away, 2) Within a week of filing, contact both the child support enforcement agency and the IRS to proactively discuss payment arrangements before automatic garnishments begin, 3) Request hardship evaluations from both agencies if the combined garnishments would leave him below subsistence level. Most importantly, he should know that Social Security benefits can never be completely garnished - there are federal protections in place. Even in worst-case scenarios, he'll likely retain 35-50% of his benefits, which is infinitely better than the zero dollars he's receiving by avoiding the system. The fear of garnishment shouldn't prevent him from claiming benefits he's rightfully earned through decades of work.

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This is such reassuring advice from someone who works directly with people in these situations! The step-by-step plan you've laid out makes this feel much more manageable. I really appreciate you emphasizing that this is a common situation - my brother has been feeling like he's the only person who's ever gotten into this kind of mess. The timeline you suggest (file immediately, then contact agencies within a week) seems like the perfect balance between not delaying benefits any longer while still being proactive about the garnishment issue. It's also really helpful to know that even in worst-case scenarios, he'd likely keep 35-50% of his benefits. That percentage, while not ideal, would still give him a foundation to rebuild from. I'm going to share all of this advice with him this weekend and help him get his application started online. Thank you for taking the time to provide such practical, professional guidance!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for sharing such detailed and helpful advice on this important topic. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational about how Social Security garnishments actually work in practice. The consensus seems very clear - your brother should absolutely file for his benefits immediately despite his debt concerns. What really stands out to me is how many people emphasized that he's losing money every single month he delays, and that even with garnishments, some income is infinitely better than no income. The practical advice about contacting agencies proactively to set up voluntary payment plans before automatic garnishments kick in seems especially valuable. I hope your brother takes action soon - it sounds like he has a much better path forward than he probably realizes!

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I completely agree - this thread has been such a valuable resource! As someone who's also new to understanding how Social Security and debt garnishments interact, I've learned so much from everyone's experiences and professional insights. The consistent message that filing immediately is better than continuing to delay really comes through loud and clear. What struck me most was learning about the federal protections that prevent 100% garnishment - I had no idea those safeguards existed. The practical timeline suggestions about filing first and then immediately contacting the agencies for voluntary payment arrangements also makes perfect sense. Your brother is lucky to have you advocating for him and helping him navigate this. Hopefully with all this great advice, he'll feel more confident about taking that first step and getting his application submitted!

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