COLA adjustments on survivor benefits if wife waits until FRA - will I lose years of increases?
I need some clarity on survivor benefits and COLA adjustments. I'm 66 and currently receiving $2,700/month in retirement benefits. My wife is 60 and still working at her job. We've been discussing what happens if I pass away before she retires, and our tentative plan is for her to claim her own SS benefit at 62 (about $1,500/month) and then switch to survivor benefits at her full retirement age (67). My big question is about the COLA adjustments during that waiting period. If she waits until 67 to claim survivor benefits, would her survivor benefit be: a) Fixed at the $2,700 I was receiving when I died (no additional COLAs) b) My $2,700 benefit PLUS all the COLAs that would have accumulated during those 7 years between my death and her claiming c) My $2,700 benefit PLUS just the COLAs that accumulate between her age 62-67 I've heard conflicting information about this, and it makes a huge difference in our long-term planning. Anyone know how the SSA handles COLA for delayed survivor benefits? Thanks for any insights!
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Zane Gray
I think its just what u got when you die, no extra money. Thats what happened with my mom when my dad passed. They dont give you extra $$ for waiting
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Aileen Rodriguez
•Thanks for sharing your experience. I was worried about that. Did your mom wait a long time to claim the survivor benefit, or did she take it right away?
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Maggie Martinez
This is actually a common misunderstanding. Your wife WOULD receive all the COLA adjustments between your death and when she claims survivor benefits. If you die, your benefit amount becomes the "basic survivor benefit" amount. Each year, when Social Security applies the COLA increase to all benefits, that basic survivor benefit will ALSO receive the COLA increase - even though nobody is claiming it yet. So the correct answer is (b) - she would get the $2,700 plus all the COLAs that would have accumulated during those years. The survivor benefit grows with inflation even while unclaimed. This is specifically addressed in the SSA POMS section GN 00615.740 and is different from retirement benefits, which only grow through delayed retirement credits, not COLA, when unclaimed.
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Alejandro Castro
•My husband passed away in 2021 and Im waiting to claim survivors until next year and THIS IS TRUE! The SSA rep told me I'll get all the cola increases since he died. The first one was 5.9%, then 8.7%, then 3.2% - it really adds up! Just make sure you have all your documents ready when you apply because thats a whole OTHER nightmare
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Aileen Rodriguez
•Thank you so much for this detailed answer! That's a huge relief. So basically, it's like the benefit is "on hold" in her name, and keeps getting adjusted with inflation even though she's not claiming it yet. That makes planning much easier.
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Monique Byrd
I went through this exact situation three years ago when my husband passed away unexpectedly. I was only 59 at the time. I want to STRONGLY second what @profile1 said - your wife WILL get all the COLA adjustments between your death and when she claims. However, I just want to add that your wife might want to reconsider the strategy of claiming her own benefit at 62 and then switching to survivors at 67. The reduction for claiming her own benefit early is PERMANENT, while survivor benefits have different reduction factors. In my case, I did the opposite - I took reduced survivor benefits at 60 and will switch to my own (unreduced) retirement benefit at my full retirement age. This can sometimes yield more lifetime benefits, especially if her own benefit at FRA would be close to your amount. Just something to consider...
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Aileen Rodriguez
•Wow, thank you for sharing your experience. I hadn't considered that strategy! So you're saying it might make more sense for her to take the survivor benefit early (even though reduced) and then switch to her own benefit later when it's not reduced? I thought survivor benefits were almost always higher than someone's own benefit, but maybe not in our case.
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Monique Byrd
•Exactly! It really depends on your specific numbers. If her own benefit at FRA would be significantly lower than your survivor benefit, then her current plan makes sense. But if her own benefit at FRA would be close to or higher than the survivor benefit, then taking survivors early and switching to her own later could be better overall. It's worth having her speak with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security to compare both strategies with your exact benefit amounts.
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Jackie Martinez
I HATE how complicated they make this stuff!! why cant they just make it simple?! i called SSA 7 times about my late husbands benefit and got 5 different answers!!! ONE LADY even hung up on me when i asked her to explain again!!! ugh
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Lia Quinn
•I feel your frustration! I've been struggling with getting through to SSA for weeks now. Someone actually recommended I try Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an agent faster. I was skeptical, but it worked - got me through in under 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours or getting disconnected. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU I'd still recommend writing down all your questions beforehand and asking for the agent's name/ID number for your records. And if you get an answer that doesn't sound right, politely ask them to verify it in their system or to speak with a technical expert.
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Haley Stokes
Just to add - if your wife is still working when she takes her own benefit at 62, be aware of the earnings limit! If she earns above the annual limit (around $21k in 2025), they'll withhold $1 for every $2 she earns above that threshold. This could essentially wipe out her early retirement benefit if she's earning a decent salary. The earnings limit goes away once she reaches full retirement age, but it's something to factor into your planning. Has she calculated whether her reduced benefit at 62 minus potential earnings limit reductions is worth taking early?
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Aileen Rodriguez
•That's an excellent point I hadn't fully considered. She does plan to keep working until at least 65, and her salary is well above that earnings limit. I think we need to run the numbers again with that in mind. It might change the entire strategy if most of her age 62-67 benefits would be withheld anyway.
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Monique Byrd
One more thing to consider - if your wife waits until her FRA to claim survivor benefits, she'll get 100% of your benefit amount (plus COLAs). If she claimed survivor benefits earlier, they would be reduced: - At age 60: about 71.5% of your benefit - At age 62: about 81.0% of your benefit - At age 65: about 95.3% of your benefit So her current plan of taking her own reduced benefit at 62 and then switching to full survivor benefits at 67 DOES make mathematical sense IF her own reduced benefit at 62 would be higher than the reduced survivor benefit would be at that age.
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Aileen Rodriguez
•Thank you for spelling out the reduction percentages! That really helps visualize the tradeoffs. Given that her own benefit at 62 would be around $1,500 (reduced from about $2,100 at FRA), and a reduced survivor benefit at 62 would be about 81% of my $2,700 (so around $2,187), it seems like taking the survivor benefit earlier might be better than her own reduced benefit. We definitely need to reconsider our strategy.
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Alejandro Castro
watch out for the tax stuff to my accountant says survivor benifits get taxed the same as regular social security so if she works and has good income while collecting then up to 85% could be taxable... just another thing they dont tell you till its to late
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Maggie Martinez
•This is correct. Survivor benefits are treated the same as other Social Security benefits for tax purposes. If her combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + 1/2 of Social Security benefits) exceeds $25,000 for a single filer, then a portion of the benefits becomes taxable, up to 85% for higher incomes. With her continuing to work, this will almost certainly be a factor.
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Lia Quinn
Have you both checked your benefit estimates on the My Social Security portal? Sometimes the estimates on the statements can be off, especially if you have years of zero or low earnings in your work history. Might be worth making sure the $2,700 and $1,500 figures are accurate before making any final decisions.
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Aileen Rodriguez
•That's a good reminder. I have checked mine recently, but she hasn't looked at hers in about 18 months. We should both get updated statements to make sure we're working with the most accurate figures.
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