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I just want to add one more important piece of advice: when your benefits are finally approved, double-check the retroactive payment carefully. Processing center delays often result in calculation errors for the back payments. Make sure they've properly calculated benefits from your initial filing date in September, not just from when they finally process the claim. Also, verify that both your widow's benefits and your daughter's benefits are calculated correctly. Many people don't realize that a surviving spouse caring for a minor child under 16 is entitled to benefits equal to 75% of the deceased worker's PIA, while the child is entitled to 75% as well (subject to family maximum limits). Likewise, ensure you've received the $255 lump sum death payment. It's small but often overlooked during problematic claims processing.
Wait widow benefits can be 75%? I thought it was only 100% if you wait until your own FRA? My mom got widows benefits last year but I think she's only getting like 71% of my dad's benefit because she's only 60 not full retirement age.
You're both correct. The 75% rate applies specifically to a surviving spouse who is caring for the deceased worker's child under age 16. This is different from regular widow's benefits which, as you noted, can range from 71.5% (at age 60) to 100% (at full retirement age). They're different benefit categories entirely, with different rules.
I want to thank everyone for the helpful advice. I called my Congressional Representative this morning and spoke with a caseworker who was incredibly helpful. She took all my information and said she'd submit an official inquiry to SSA today. She also gave me her direct number for follow-up. I'm also going to try that Claimyr service to reach someone at SSA directly so I can request the "critical case" flag and ask to speak with a Technical Expert or District Manager. I'll keep you all posted on what happens. It helps to know I'm not alone in this frustrating process.
That's excellent progress! Congressional inquiries typically receive responses within 10-15 business days, which is much faster than the standard processing. When you do reach SSA using whichever method works, be sure to mention that you've already filed a congressional inquiry - this often prompts additional urgency on their part. Keep us updated.
Thank you all for the helpful information! I've scheduled an appointment at my local SSA office for next week. I'm bringing all the documents suggested (marriage certificate, his death certificate, birth certificate, etc.). Based on everyone's advice, I think I'll apply for survivor benefits now even though some might be withheld due to my earnings. I'm really grateful to learn about the strategy of taking survivor benefits now and switching to my own retirement benefit later. That was never on my radar!If anyone has recommendations about specific questions I should ask during my appointment, I'd appreciate the advice. I want to make sure I don't miss anything important.
Your February payment should arrive on a specific schedule based on either your birth date or your late husband's birth date (whichever the claim is based on). The payment schedule for 2025 is: - Birth dates 1st-10th: Second Wednesday of month - Birth dates 11th-20th: Third Wednesday of month - Birth dates 21st-31st: Fourth Wednesday of month If benefits started before May 1997, payment comes on the 3rd of the month. Mark your calendar for the appropriate Wednesday in February to expect your full survivor benefit payment.
One more thing about survivor benefits nobody told me - they're taxable if your combined income exceeds certain thresholds. For 2025, if you file as an individual and your combined income is between $25,000 and $34,000, up to 50% of your benefits may be taxable. Above $34,000, up to 85% may be taxable. Caught me by surprise at tax time!
Remember that any changes to the WEP formula would be based on your years of substantial earnings under Social Security. If you have 30+ years of substantial earnings, WEP doesn't apply at all. If you have 21-29 years, the WEP reduction is lessened. Might be worth checking if you're close to one of those thresholds. You can request your earnings record from SSA to verify your years of coverage.
anybody know what the fairness act actually says? will it be retroactive? my mom already retired 2 years ago and got screwed by wep
Brielle Johnson
this happened to my aunt last year! the ssa people told her different things every time she called! one said she would get her husbands full amount, another said it would be reduced cause she was only 62. so frustrating! she ended up getting most of his benefit but not all of it. the whole process took like 3 months.
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Demi Lagos
Thank you everyone for your helpful advice. I called the local office this morning and explained my situation. They were able to move my appointment up to next week after I mentioned I was recently widowed. I'm going to bring all the documents suggested and have made a list of questions based on your comments. I'm also going to try that phone service if I need to call again before my appointment. This is all so overwhelming on top of the grief, but I feel more prepared now. I'll update after my appointment in case it helps someone else in the future.
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Mason Lopez
•That's great news about the earlier appointment. One more tip: ask specifically about the "restricted application" strategy for survivors. This could allow you to take only the survivor benefit while letting your own retirement benefit grow until 70 (or vice versa). This option isn't widely publicized but can be very valuable in your situation. Wishing you strength during this difficult time.
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