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this happened to my aunt last year! the ssa people told her different things every time she called! one said she would get her husbands full amount, another said it would be reduced cause she was only 62. so frustrating! she ended up getting most of his benefit but not all of it. the whole process took like 3 months.

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Thank you everyone for your helpful advice. I called the local office this morning and explained my situation. They were able to move my appointment up to next week after I mentioned I was recently widowed. I'm going to bring all the documents suggested and have made a list of questions based on your comments. I'm also going to try that phone service if I need to call again before my appointment. This is all so overwhelming on top of the grief, but I feel more prepared now. I'll update after my appointment in case it helps someone else in the future.

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That's great news about the earlier appointment. One more tip: ask specifically about the "restricted application" strategy for survivors. This could allow you to take only the survivor benefit while letting your own retirement benefit grow until 70 (or vice versa). This option isn't widely publicized but can be very valuable in your situation. Wishing you strength during this difficult time.

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Your February payment should arrive on a specific schedule based on either your birth date or your late husband's birth date (whichever the claim is based on). The payment schedule for 2025 is: - Birth dates 1st-10th: Second Wednesday of month - Birth dates 11th-20th: Third Wednesday of month - Birth dates 21st-31st: Fourth Wednesday of month If benefits started before May 1997, payment comes on the 3rd of the month. Mark your calendar for the appropriate Wednesday in February to expect your full survivor benefit payment.

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This is really helpful! My husband was born on the 17th, so I should expect payment on the third Wednesday. I'll mark my calendar for February 19th.

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One more thing about survivor benefits nobody told me - they're taxable if your combined income exceeds certain thresholds. For 2025, if you file as an individual and your combined income is between $25,000 and $34,000, up to 50% of your benefits may be taxable. Above $34,000, up to 85% may be taxable. Caught me by surprise at tax time!

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Oh that's good to know! I'll need to plan for that at tax time. I'm working part-time so I'll definitely be above those thresholds. I appreciate the heads up!

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Thanks everyone for the helpful feedback. Based on the calculations shared, we've decided it's not worth amending the returns since the break-even point would be around 25+ years. I appreciate all the insights!

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smart move! save that $$ for something fun instead lol

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One important thing to consider: there's a 3-year, 3-month, and 15-day time limit for correcting Social Security earnings records. For earnings from 2015-2016, you're already beyond this window. However, SSA can make exceptions for "good cause" which includes situations where income was properly reported to IRS but not to SSA. You'd need to file Form SSA-7008 (Request for Correction of Earnings Record) along with proof of income and an explanation. Also, to be very technical, the benefit formula takes your highest 35 years of indexed earnings. The indexing factor adjusts earlier years' earnings upward significantly. So two recent years at $87k each might not actually replace years that, although lower in nominal terms, might be higher after indexing. If you want an exact calculation, you can request a detailed earnings analysis through an in-person appointment at your local SSA office.

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Great point about the time limit! I forgot about that restriction. Also excellent explanation about the indexing - many people don't realize that $50k earned in 1990 might actually count MORE than $80k earned in 2015 after indexing.

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Wow, I didn't know about the time limit. That definitely makes our decision easier - probably not worth fighting for an exception when the financial benefit is questionable anyway. Thank you for this detailed explanation!

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Update: I went with my mother-in-law to the funeral home today and got 10 copies of the death certificate. We've scheduled an appointment with SSA for next week. They told us she should bring her ID, both their Social Security cards, marriage certificate, death certificate, and a recent bank statement. I'm going to go with her to make sure everything gets handled correctly. Thank you all for your advice - it's been incredibly helpful during this difficult time.

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Smart to go with her! When I went with my mom, the SSA person almost forgot to mention the lump sum death benefit. It's only $255 but every bit helps. Sounds like you're on top of things!

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my friend said when her mom died the dad got a letter automatic like 2 weeks later and didnt have to do nothing. is that different for husbands vs wives or something?

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No, gender doesn't matter for survivor benefits, but the process can vary depending on individual circumstances. If SSA already knows about the death (usually reported by the funeral home), they sometimes automatically process certain changes. However, survivor benefits typically require an application, especially when switching from your own benefit to a survivor benefit. Relying on automatic processing is risky - always better to be proactive and contact SSA directly.

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Remember that any changes to the WEP formula would be based on your years of substantial earnings under Social Security. If you have 30+ years of substantial earnings, WEP doesn't apply at all. If you have 21-29 years, the WEP reduction is lessened. Might be worth checking if you're close to one of those thresholds. You can request your earnings record from SSA to verify your years of coverage.

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anybody know what the fairness act actually says? will it be retroactive? my mom already retired 2 years ago and got screwed by wep

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From what I understand, the most recent version would phase out WEP/GPO over 5 years and would apply to both current and future beneficiaries. But honestly, it's been introduced so many times without passing that I'm not holding my breath.

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