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I know this is off-topic but does anyone know if the 3-month rule is the same when applying for spousal benefits? My wife is turning 67 next year and I want to apply for my spousal benefit since I never worked enough quarters on my own.
Yes, the timing recommendation is the same for spousal benefits. However, be aware that your spouse needs to have already filed for their own benefits (or file at the same time) for you to be eligible for spousal benefits. The 3-month advance application window applies to all retirement-based benefits.
Applying for Medicare at the same time doesn't typically slow down your retirement benefit processing. The two systems are connected but processed separately. In fact, the online application is designed to handle both simultaneously. Many people are automatically enrolled in Medicare Part A at 65 even if they delay retirement benefits until later, so the systems are designed to coordinate.
Based on the numbers you provided, let's do a quick calculation: Your monthly benefit at 64 = $2,725 Applying early retirement reduction factor (approximately 93.3% of PIA at age 64) Your estimated PIA ≈ $2,920 Your husband's monthly benefit at FRA = $1,430 This is 100% of his PIA Spousal benefit = 50% of your PIA = $1,460 Since $1,460 > $1,430, your husband may be eligible for a supplemental spousal benefit of approximately $30/month. He should contact SSA to verify these calculations and apply for the dual entitlement if applicable.
Just to close the loop here - once you've confirmed with SSA whether your husband qualifies for the additional amount through dual entitlement, make sure to ask about how this affects future cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs). Both portions of his benefit (his own and the spousal component) will receive COLAs, but they're applied separately to each benefit component. Also, if your husband is under the full retirement age for the spousal benefit (which may be different than his FRA for his own benefit), there might be additional reductions to consider.
Lol everyone here is so optimistic about the timeline. My husband and I went through this last year and it took FOUR MONTHS from when I was approved until his spousal benefits actually started paying out. The SSA is SWAMPED with applications. And yes technically he can apply online but in our experience the spousal application has way more issues than the regular retirement one. Prepare for delays and frustration!
Just to clear up a common misconception - there's no such thing as a "spousal top off" in the Social Security system's official terminology. What your husband will receive is technically called the "spousal benefit" which can be up to 50% of your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). If your husband already qualifies for his own retirement benefit, he'll receive whichever is higher - his own benefit or the spousal benefit. The system automatically calculates this when he applies for the spousal benefit, so he doesn't need to make any special requests for the "difference" or "top-up" amount. The SSA will figure out the proper amount based on both your records.
Thanks for clarifying the terminology! That makes more sense. So essentially he'll just apply for the spousal benefit and the SSA will automatically calculate whether that's higher than his own retirement benefit? He's already collecting his own retirement benefit (started at 62), so I'm guessing they'll just adjust his payment amount if the spousal benefit is higher?
To answer your original question about online vs. appointment - definitely do it online if your case is straightforward! When I tried to get an appointment, they told me it would be 4 MONTHS wait. Did it online in 20 mins instead. Just make sure you have all your docs ready (birth certificate, marriage certificate if applicable, bank account info for direct deposit, etc).
Based on everything shared here, it seems like following the OpenSocialSecurity recommendation makes sense for your situation. Since your benefit is more than half your spouse's, there's no spousal benefit to consider, and filing early only affects your own retirement amount. Your survivor benefits would still be protected as long as you're past FRA when that situation might arise. You can apply online about 3 months before you want benefits to begin. Just be prepared for potential processing delays.
Malik Johnson
I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING!!! Since you already filed for your retirement, you need to WITHDRAW that application before your benefits start in February!!! There's a specific form called SSA-521 \
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Isabella Ferreira
Good catch! I didn't even think about that part. Once benefits start it's much harder to change course.
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