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btw that earnings limit goes up when u hit your full retirement age... then it's higher (like $4000/month i think?) and then after your birthday month in your full retirement age year the limit goes away completely and u can earn whatever u want

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That's correct. For 2025, if you reach full retirement age during the year, the earnings limit increases to $4,960/month ($59,520/year) until the month you reach full retirement age. Then once you hit your full retirement age month, there's no more earnings limit at all - you can earn any amount without affecting your Social Security benefits.

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Thanks everyone for the helpful answers! Just to make sure I've got this straight: I can take money from my 401k for my home repairs without any impact on my Social Security benefits, even though I'm under full retirement age. The earnings limit only applies to actual work income. I'll still need to pay income tax on the withdrawal, and that might affect how much of my Social Security gets taxed, but it won't reduce my monthly SS payment. Does that sound right?

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You've got it exactly right. Your 401k withdrawal won't count toward the earnings limit and won't reduce your Social Security payment. The only consideration is the potential tax impact.

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quick question - are u sure u calculated everything right? did u count gross or net income? and are u including all ur work expenses that might bring it down under the limit?

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I counted my gross wages, which is what I understand they look at. I don't think I have any deductible work expenses that would help in this case. Good thought though!

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One more tip - keep good records of your earnings for the year. If you're still working, you might want to adjust your hours slightly for the rest of the year to stay under next year's limit. The earnings test gets more complicated in the year you reach Full Retirement Age, but then disappears completely once you hit FRA. At that point, you can earn unlimited income without any impact on your benefits.

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Great advice! I'm tracking everything carefully now. My FRA is 67, so I've still got a few years to go. Looking forward to not having to worry about this limit eventually.

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You should definitely keep your appointment. Since you'll be at your Full Retirement Age in June, this is the perfect time to file. Regarding the COVID income concerns: The Social Security benefit formula uses your highest 35 years of indexed earnings, so those lower-earning pandemic years will simply not be included in your calculation if you have 35 other higher-earning years. Also, filing at your appointment in May for benefits to begin in June (your FRA month) is ideal timing. The only reason to possibly delay would be if you wanted to earn delayed retirement credits (8% per year until age 70), but that's a separate strategic decision based on your financial needs and longevity expectations.

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i thought u could only get the 8% bonus if u wait till 70? my friend said u get nothing extra for waiting a few months

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After I used Claimyr to get through to SSA, the agent confirmed that each month you delay past FRA gives you approximately 0.67% more (which equals 8% per year). So waiting even a few months does increase your benefit, but you have to decide if the permanent increase is worth missing those months of payments. For me, I decided to start right at my FRA because I needed the income immediately.

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That's really helpful information, thank you! I think I'll stick with starting at my FRA too - I'd rather have the guaranteed income now than wait for a slightly higher amount later.

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hey did ur disabled son have any trouble with his benefits when u started collecting? my kid is worried cause i might start mine soon but they get ssi not ssdi if that makes a difference

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That's an important distinction. SSI and SSDI are very different programs. SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is needs-based and has strict income/resource limits. If your income increases, it could reduce your child's SSI. SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) is based on work history and not affected by other household income. The original poster's son is on SSDI, which wouldn't be affected by her retirement benefits.

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Circling back to your original question about increasing your benefit: While you can't withdraw and reapply, remember that if you continue working, even part-time, Social Security will automatically recalculate your benefit annually to see if your new earnings increase your benefit amount. Also, once you reach age 70, you should check if you might qualify for a higher spousal benefit from your ex-husband's record, especially if he's filed for his benefits by then. The $8,000 annual earnings you mentioned likely won't make a huge difference, but it could cause some small increases over time if those earnings replace lower-earning years in your calculation.

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Thank you for coming back to address this. I'll keep working part-time then, as every little bit helps. I'm also going to see if my ex has filed for his benefits yet, as that might change my situation. This has all been very helpful information!

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I started receiving my deceased husband's benefits right after he died but i was already 68 so no issues with working. The whole process took about 45 days from application to first deposit. Make sure u have certified copies of everything they ask for.

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One more important point - you mentioned your HR department is pressuring you about retirement plans. Just to be clear, collecting Social Security survivor benefits doesn't require you to retire from your job. You can work indefinitely while collecting survivor benefits once you reach your FRA of 66 and 8 months. Also, when you apply, make sure SSA compares your own benefit amount to your wife's. They should pay you the higher of the two. And if you delay your own retirement benefit until 70 while collecting survivors now, be aware that you'll need to proactively apply for your retirement benefit when you reach 70 - the switch isn't automatic.

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This is really helpful, thank you. I'm going to make an appointment with HR to clarify that I plan to continue working even after I start collecting survivor benefits. And I'll definitely mark my calendar to apply for my own benefits at 70 if that ends up being the better option.

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