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To address your vacation payout concern: Yes, lump sum vacation pay counts as earnings in the month received, not when earned. However, you could ask your employer if they'd be willing to spread the vacation payout over multiple months instead of one lump sum. Not all employers will do this, but it's worth asking if it helps you stay under the monthly limit. Also, regarding your spouse's SSDI application - if she's approved, you may become eligible for a caregiver spouse benefit once you're both receiving benefits. This is something to discuss with SSA when the time comes.
hey did ur disabled son have any trouble with his benefits when u started collecting? my kid is worried cause i might start mine soon but they get ssi not ssdi if that makes a difference
That's an important distinction. SSI and SSDI are very different programs. SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is needs-based and has strict income/resource limits. If your income increases, it could reduce your child's SSI. SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) is based on work history and not affected by other household income. The original poster's son is on SSDI, which wouldn't be affected by her retirement benefits.
Circling back to your original question about increasing your benefit: While you can't withdraw and reapply, remember that if you continue working, even part-time, Social Security will automatically recalculate your benefit annually to see if your new earnings increase your benefit amount. Also, once you reach age 70, you should check if you might qualify for a higher spousal benefit from your ex-husband's record, especially if he's filed for his benefits by then. The $8,000 annual earnings you mentioned likely won't make a huge difference, but it could cause some small increases over time if those earnings replace lower-earning years in your calculation.
Thank you for coming back to address this. I'll keep working part-time then, as every little bit helps. I'm also going to see if my ex has filed for his benefits yet, as that might change my situation. This has all been very helpful information!
Just wanted to add - make sure your wife knows exactly what paperwork she'll need if something happens. My mom had to provide: death certificate (certified copy), marriage certificate, both their Social Security cards, birth certificate, and photo ID. The SSA website lists everything but having it all ready saved her a second trip. Also tell her she should apply in the month of death - they don't pay benefits retroactively beyond a certain point.
That's extremely helpful, thank you. I'll make sure we have all those documents organized and accessible. Would you recommend keeping physical copies together in a specific place, or are digital copies sufficient for the SSA?
To answer your follow-up question about optimal strategy: Generally, yes - claiming the lower benefit first then switching to the higher one later can maximize lifetime benefits. For example, if your wife's own benefit at age 70 would be higher than your survivor benefit (unlikely with the numbers you provided, but possible for others), she could take reduced survivor benefits at 60, then switch to her own maximized benefit at 70. More commonly for couples with disparate earnings like yours, she might take her own reduced retirement benefit at 62, then switch to the full survivor benefit at her FRA. The optimal approach depends on: 1. Both benefit amounts 2. Her life expectancy 3. Whether she's still working (earnings test) 4. Any other income sources during potential gap years The SSA won't automatically tell her about these strategies, so it's good you're researching now.
this is so confusing!! i wish the SSA would just TELL you what the best option is instead of making you figure it out yourself. i bet most widows leave money on the table because we don't know all these rules
The whole system is SO CONFUSING!!! Why can't they just make it simple to understand??? Every time I think I get it someone tells me something different. And don't even get me started on trying to talk to someone at the actual office! 🤬
I hear you! I think the best approach is to get information from multiple reliable sources. The SSA website has good info, but talking to an actual representative helps clarify your specific situation. That's why I was so relieved when I found a way to actually reach someone without waiting for hours.
To summarize for the original poster: 1) No family maximum concerns for you and your husband since you're claiming on separate work records, 2) Your decision should focus on the early claiming reduction vs. getting payments sooner, 3) Consider survivor benefit implications, and 4) Be aware of potential tax implications of having both benefits coming in. These are the key factors for your situation.
Thank you to everyone for all this helpful information! I think I'm going to run some numbers on the tax situation first, but I'm leaning toward claiming now rather than waiting. It's such a relief to know we don't have to worry about any family maximum limitations.
Haley Stokes
One thing nobody's mentioned - if you're earning enough to have to pay back benefits, you might want to consider whether it makes sense to just suspend your benefits until you reach FRA. I did that when I went back to work, and it saved me the hassle of paying back benefits. Plus, for each month your benefits are suspended, you get a little boost when they restart (they recalculate to remove some of the early retirement reduction).
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Maggie Martinez
•That's interesting! But since I'm already on survivor benefits now and not working anymore (the job ended in February), I don't think that would apply to my current situation. Might be helpful for others though!
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Asher Levin
To address your specific situation more directly: Since your 2023 earnings were from a period when you were still receiving your own retirement benefits (before switching to survivor benefits in September), those earnings could indeed replace a lower year in your 35-year calculation. However, there's an important timing element here. The SSA doesn't apply new earnings to your record until after the employer W-2 forms are processed, typically around September of the following year. So you might not see any change in your record until late 2024, and any increase to your own PIA wouldn't be relevant while you're receiving survivor benefits (unless your own benefit eventually becomes higher).
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