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I remember my financial advisor telling me that ANYTHING that simplifies dealing with SSA is worth considering. Even if the process isn't technically automatic, having your records already linked through spousal benefits creates a clearer trail. When dealing with SSA during what will already be a difficult emotional time, any potential simplification might be worth that small paperwork hassle now.

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This is what I was thinking too. My mom had to deal with survivor stuff after dad passed and she said having all the paperwork already in the system saved a ton of headaches.

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One additional consideration: Current rules require reporting a death to SSA within 30 days. Survivor benefits can only be paid from the time of application in most cases, not retroactively from the date of death. Whether you receive spousal benefits or not, what's most important is knowing the process for when the time comes: 1. Report the death promptly (within 30 days) 2. Apply for survivor benefits (can't be done online, must be by phone or in-person) 3. Have necessary documentation (death certificate, marriage certificate, birth certificate, tax records) Having the spousal relationship already established in SSA's systems might help prevent certain documentation requirements or verification steps, but the core process remains the same.

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Thank you for this detailed information! I didn't realize you couldn't apply for survivor benefits online - that's really good to know. I'm leaning toward taking the small spousal benefit when my husband files, just to have everything properly linked in their system.

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My friend says shes getting 3700 a month from social security, is that even possible??? seems way too high

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The maximum Social Security retirement benefit for someone at FRA in 2025 is around $3,800/month (for someone who earned at or above the maximum taxable earnings limit for 35 years and waited until FRA to claim). So yes, it's possible, but quite rare - less than 1% of beneficiaries receive amounts that high. The average benefit for 2025 is closer to $1,900/month. Your friend might be including other benefits or income in that figure.

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Thanks everyone for the great responses! This has been incredibly helpful. Just to summarize what I've learned: 1. Yes, the SSA will recalculate my benefit even before FRA if my current earnings replace a lower year 2. Any increase will still be reduced by my early claiming penalty 3. The earnings test reduction is temporary and gets factored back in at FRA 4. The recalculation happens automatically each year For anyone else wondering about this - this thread has great info! I'm going to try calling SSA to confirm my specific situation. If I can't get through I'll check out that Claimyr service mentioned above.

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One more important detail: If your ex-husband is now past his Full Retirement Age (FRA), any adjustment would be effective from the month of application (with up to 6 months of retroactive benefits possible). If he's still under his FRA, different rules apply and he might face additional reductions for claiming early. The GPO reduction (2/3 of his government pension) applies before any age-based reductions. So if his government pension is substantial, it might eliminate any potential ex-spouse benefit entirely, regardless of the WEP changes affecting your benefit amount. When he contacts SSA, he should specifically ask for a comprehensive benefits calculation taking into account: 1. His own earned benefit (already reduced for early claiming) 2. Potential ex-spouse benefit based on your record with updated WEP calculation 3. GPO reduction based on his non-covered pension 4. Any Medicare premium penalties he's currently paying

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you! He's 68 now, so past FRA. His pension is around $2,300/month, which I know will substantially reduce any ex-spouse benefits. I'll tell him to ask for this comprehensive calculation exactly as you described.

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does anyone know if theres gonna be another WEP reform bill this year?? i keep hearing congress might change the rules again

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There's always legislation being proposed, but nothing has passed yet. The Social Security Fairness Act has been introduced again to eliminate both WEP and GPO, but I wouldn't count on any changes soon. Best to work with the current rules for now.

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my sister told me the secret is to be super careful with the trial work period to make sure you dont use them all up at once. use maybe 1 month here and there if you can so they dont all get used up together and then your not stuck without a safety net

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This isn't entirely accurate. TWP months aren't something you can strategically schedule - any month where your earnings exceed the TWP threshold (which is $1,110 in 2025) automatically counts as a TWP month. They don't need to be consecutive, but you can't choose when to use them. After the 9th TWP month is completed, you automatically enter the 36-month Extended Period of Eligibility where benefits continue in any month earnings fall below SGA. This is the actual safety net period.

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To answer your question about my transition - yes, I did have a couple of payment gaps around month 10-11 after my TWP ended. I earned above SGA for those months, so my benefits were supposed to stop, but then I had a medical setback and my earnings dropped below SGA the following month. SSA was supposed to automatically reinstate my benefits for that month, but I had to make multiple calls to get it resolved. This is where documentation saved me - I had proof of my earnings drop and proof that I'd reported it. Eventually I did fully transition off SSDI, but knowing I had that 36-month safety net of the Extended Period of Eligibility made it much less scary to try. Best decision I ever made, but I wouldn't have done it without understanding all the protections available.

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Thank you for sharing this - it's really helpful to hear a success story! I think I'll request that BPQY report and maybe talk to my employer about a more gradual increase in hours. The idea of going straight from part-time to 40 hours a week is probably too aggressive anyway given my health history.

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wait so is it the box 1 wages or the box 3 ss wages that count? im still confused

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For the Social Security earnings test, you generally need to count gross earnings, which would align more closely with Box 1 (wages, tips, other compensation) plus any pre-tax retirement contributions. Box 3 (Social Security wages) already has certain pre-tax deductions removed, so it's not the right number to use for the earnings test in most cases. This is a common point of confusion because the terminology is similar but the calculations are different for different purposes.

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Thank you all for the helpful responses! I clearly misunderstood how this works. We'll go back and check his actual gross earnings to make sure we're tracking correctly for 2025. And we'll be setting aside some emergency funds just in case we accidentally go over and have to deal with benefit withholding. It's frustrating that something seemingly simple gets so complicated. Hopefully when he reaches Full Retirement Age in a few years, we can stop worrying about all this earnings limit stuff!

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