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Has anyone mentioned yet that you should check if you're eligible for the lump-sum death benefit? It's only $255 but hey, money is money! Though after 12 years they might say it's too late for that particular benefit.

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Unfortunately, the $255 death payment must be applied for within two years of death in most cases, so that's likely not available anymore. But definitely worth asking about when speaking with SSA just in case there are exceptions!

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! I'm going to try to contact SSA directly to discuss my specific situation. Sounds like I should probably wait until I'm either closer to 60 or possibly even until my full retirement age given my current income. I appreciate all the information about the different options and considerations - this is way more complicated than I thought it would be!

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Don't wait!!! My sister-in-law was in your EXACT situation (teacher for 29 years, GPO affected) and she listened when they told her to "just wait" - BIG MISTAKE! She ended up waiting THREE EXTRA MONTHS for her first payment because of the direct deposit issue! Go to your local office IN PERSON with your ID, a voided check, and your case number. Insist they document in your file that you provided direct deposit info. The website is RIGHT and the phone rep was WRONG. With this GPO repeal affecting so many people, SSA is overwhelmed and giving out incorrect information.

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm afraid of! I definitely don't want to wait months for a payment when I could be proactive now. Thank you for sharing your sister-in-law's experience - I'll make an appointment at my local office right away. Did she ever get retroactive payments for the months she should have been receiving benefits?

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I know this isn't exactly what you asked, but make sure you understand how the GPO repeal implementation timeline works. SSA announced they'll process cases in phases, with the first payments expected to go out in late January 2025. Those who already applied (like you) are in the first group. But they also said benefits won't be retroactive to the repeal date - they'll start when SSA processes your case. So getting your direct deposit set up is definitely important to avoid further delays once they get to your case!

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Thank you for mentioning the timeline - that's really helpful context! January 2025 isn't too far away, so I definitely want to make sure everything is in order. I appreciate everyone's helpful advice on this thread. I'm going to call tomorrow using the specific wording suggested and also try to make an in-person appointment as backup.

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i went thru this with my mother last year!!! the SSA people told her she wasnt eligible but that was WRONG!! we had to talk to a supervisor to get it fixed. they kept saying she remarried but she NEVER did. if they give u trouble, ask for supervisor right away dont take no for answer.

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This happens more than people realize. The front-line representatives sometimes make errors on more complex cases like divorced survivor benefits. Always escalate if something doesn't seem right. And get the name of everyone you speak with, along with dates and times of conversations.

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One more thing to consider - if your mother is receiving any SSI (Supplemental Security Income) or other means-tested benefits in addition to her Social Security retirement, the increased income from survivor benefits could affect her eligibility for those programs. It's almost certainly still worth applying for the higher survivor benefit, but be aware there might be effects on other benefits she receives.

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She's not on SSI, just regular Social Security retirement, so hopefully that won't be an issue. She does get a small pension from a factory where she worked for about 15 years, but I don't think that will be affected.

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just wondering, how much would your own benefit be at 67? is it close to the survivor benefit or way less?

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Based on my last statement, my benefit at 67 would be around $1,850 - so still less than the $2,100 survivor benefit I'm getting. But I'm curious what it might grow to by 70 with delayed credits.

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Since you mentioned specific numbers in your reply to another comment ($1,850 for your benefit at FRA vs $2,100 survivor benefit), let me add some helpful math: By delaying your retirement benefit from 67 to 70, you'd get an additional 8% per year for 3 years (24% total increase). That would potentially make your own benefit around $2,294 at age 70 ($1,850 × 1.24), which would exceed your current survivor benefit. This is exactly the type of situation where the switching strategy could benefit you. You could continue receiving the survivor benefit until 70, then switch to your own (higher) retirement benefit for the rest of your life. Definitely worth discussing with an SSA representative to get exact figures based on your earnings record.

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Thank you SO much for doing this calculation! This is incredibly helpful. I had no idea my benefit could grow that much by waiting until 70. I think I definitely need to talk to SSA to confirm these numbers, but this gives me a much clearer picture of my options.

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One other thing your sister should know - the survivor benefit is 100% of what he was receiving ONLY if she waits until her FRA. If she takes it early (even a month early), it's permanently reduced. The reduction can be as much as 28.5% if taken at age 60. And don't forget to ask about disabled widow benefits if she's disabled herself - different rules apply. The emotional toll of all this paperwork and decisions while grieving is just awful. Please encourage her to get everything in order now while he can help. Maybe even set up a specific file with all the documents she'll need later.

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She's definitely planning to wait until her FRA. And thanks for the suggestion about getting everything organized now - we'll work on creating a file with all the important documents and information. I'm trying to help carry some of this burden for her so she can focus on spending time with him.

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet: She should ask about her husband establishing a "protective filing date" for his SSDI application as soon as possible, even before they have all documentation ready. This preserves an earlier entitlement date, which could affect backpay and Medicare eligibility. And when the time comes for her survivor benefits, she should specifically mention the "LSDP" (Lump Sum Death Payment) - it's only $255 but many people don't know to ask for it. Also, she should inquire about her eligibility for disabled widow's benefits if she has any disability herself, as different rules apply. Finally, I'd suggest both of them look into setting up my.ssa.gov accounts now if they haven't already.

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Thank you for the suggestion about establishing a protective filing date. I'll make sure he does that right away. And they both do have my.ssa.gov accounts already, which has been helpful for checking his earnings record.

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