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I'm in a similar boat at 62 - laid off from my engineering job last year and facing the same age discrimination you're describing. It's heartbreaking when you have decades of experience but companies won't even give you a chance. Regarding SSDI, I'd encourage you to at least get a consultation with a disability attorney who offers free case evaluations. They can quickly assess whether your medical conditions are likely to meet SSA's criteria. Many work on contingency, so you only pay if you win. One thing to consider: even if the application process takes a year, you'd still get 2+ years of benefits before FRA, and those benefits are paid retroactively to your application date if approved. Plus, having that steady income might reduce stress on your marriage during this difficult period. The age discrimination is real and infuriating. I've started removing graduation dates from my resume and using a more recent email address, but it only helps so much. Have you considered reaching out to your state's vocational rehabilitation services? Sometimes they have programs specifically for older workers facing employment barriers. Whatever you decide, don't let anyone make you feel like you're "giving up" by considering disability. If you have legitimate medical conditions that affect your ability to work, you've paid into this system for decades and deserve to use it.
Thank you for the encouragement and practical suggestions! I hadn't thought about consulting with a disability attorney for a free evaluation - that's a great idea to get an honest assessment of my chances before diving into the process. The point about retroactive benefits is also important; even if it takes a year to get approved, I'd still come out ahead financially. You're absolutely right about the stress on marriage. My wife has been incredibly supportive, but I can tell she's worried about me being discouraged and isolated at home. Having my own income again would definitely help my mental state. I'm sorry you're dealing with the same age discrimination at 62. It's maddening to have all this experience and knowledge but be invisible to employers. I've also tried the resume tricks (removing dates, etc.) but you're right that it only helps so much. I haven't looked into vocational rehabilitation services - I'll check what's available in my state. Thanks for the reminder that using a system we've paid into for decades isn't "giving up." I keep feeling like I should be able to power through and find work, but maybe it's time to be realistic about both my health limitations and the current job market for people our age.
I'm 63 and went through a very similar experience last year - laid off after 25 years with my company when they "restructured." The age discrimination is absolutely real and soul-crushing. I must have sent out 200 applications and got maybe 10 responses, most of them rejections within hours of applying. I ended up applying for SSDI and was approved after about 6 months. My advice: if you have documented medical conditions that genuinely limit your ability to work, go for it. The financial security has been a godsend, and knowing it converts to my full retirement benefit at FRA takes away a lot of anxiety about the future. The application process isn't fun - lots of paperwork and medical records to gather - but it's not impossibly difficult if you're organized about it. I did it without a lawyer since my conditions were well-documented. The key is being thorough and honest about how your conditions affect your daily activities and work capacity. One thing that helped me was keeping a daily journal for a few weeks before applying, documenting my symptoms, pain levels, and how they limited my activities. The disability examiner found this very helpful during my phone interview. Don't let anyone make you feel bad about considering this option. We've paid into the system our entire working lives, and if you legitimately can't work due to medical issues, this is exactly what SSDI is for. The peace of mind alone has been worth it for me.
One important correction to what others have said: When you file at 62 for ex-spousal benefits, you'll receive approximately 32.5% of your ex's PIA (not 35%). This is because spousal/ex-spousal benefits at 62 are reduced by 35% from the full 50% you'd receive at your FRA. I'd recommend creating a my Social Security account online if you haven't already. There you can see your estimated retirement benefit. Then call SSA to find out what your ex-spousal benefit would be. Compare both reduced amounts at 62 and both full amounts at your FRA to make an informed decision.
As someone who went through this process recently, I'd strongly recommend getting both benefit estimates before making any decisions. The "breakeven" analysis is crucial - you need to know at what age the higher monthly payment from waiting would make up for the years of missed payments from filing early. Also, don't forget that if you're still working and file at 62, you'll be subject to the earnings test. For 2024, you lose $1 in benefits for every $2 earned over $22,320. This might make filing early less attractive if you're planning to keep working full-time. One strategy some people use is to file a restricted application at FRA if eligible, but the rules around this changed in 2016 and it's quite complex. Definitely worth discussing with an SSA representative to understand all your options.
This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was hoping to find! The earnings test is something I hadn't even considered - since I'm still working full-time and making more than that threshold, filing at 62 might not make financial sense at all. I really appreciate you mentioning the breakeven analysis too. It sounds like I need to do some serious number crunching before making this decision. Do you happen to know if the earnings test still applies once you reach your FRA?
good luck with it all!! one more thing i forgot - when you apply online print or save EVERYTHING before you submit!!! i lost half my confirmation info and had to call and wait forever to get it sorted out.
Great tip! I'll definitely save/print everything. Did you get any kind of tracking number for your application that I should look out for?
Yes! You'll get a confirmation number and receipt number after you submit. They also send you to a confirmation page that shows your application receipt - that's the main thing to save/print. You can also create a my Social Security account online to track the status of your application once it's submitted. Makes it much easier to follow up if needed.
Welcome to the community! I just went through a very similar situation last year at 66 and 8 months. A couple additional tips from my experience: 1) Double-check your earnings calculation for those pre-FRA months. I made the mistake of looking at gross vs net and almost panicked thinking I'd exceed the limit. 2) For Medicare Part A enrollment - the online application will specifically ask "Do you want to apply for Medicare?" and you can select "Part A only" with a checkbox. It's clearer than I expected. 3) Timeline-wise, I submitted my application about 6 weeks before my FRA birthday and everything processed smoothly. The key is giving them enough time but not so early that you create confusion. 4) One thing others haven't mentioned - make sure your husband knows he can't apply for spousal benefits until YOUR benefits are actually approved and in payment status. We tried to time it perfectly and had to wait an extra few weeks. The hospital employment should make the Medicare coordination pretty straightforward since you'll have creditable coverage. Good luck with everything!
I'm a newcomer to this community and currently facing a similar decision. My spouse passed away last year and I'm 58, so I've been researching this extensively. One thing I've learned that might help you is that there's actually a "do-over" rule if you change your mind within the first 12 months of claiming benefits. If you file for survivor benefits at 60 and then realize it's not the optimal strategy (maybe due to higher earnings than expected), you can withdraw your application, pay back what you received, and start fresh. This only works once and only within 12 months, but it provides a safety net. Also, I found the SSA's online benefit estimator tool helpful for getting rough numbers before scheduling an appointment. You can access your earnings record and get estimates for both your own retirement and survivor benefits at different claiming ages. It's at ssa.gov/myaccount. The fact that you're thinking about this at 56 puts you ahead of many people - you have time to really plan this out properly!
Welcome to the community, and I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing that information about the "do-over" rule - I had no idea that option existed! That's really reassuring to know there's a safety net if I make the wrong choice initially. I'll definitely check out the online benefit estimator at ssa.gov/myaccount to get some rough numbers before my appointment. It sounds like having those estimates will help me ask better questions when I do speak with SSA. I appreciate you taking the time to share what you've learned during your own research.
I'm new to this community and going through a similar situation. My husband passed away two years ago when I was 54, and I've been trying to navigate all these Social Security decisions. Reading through everyone's responses has been incredibly helpful! One thing I learned from my financial advisor that might be worth mentioning is that if you do decide to take survivor benefits early while still working, you should also consider how it affects your future Social Security earnings record. Those additional work years can sometimes increase your own retirement benefit calculation, which could make the "switch strategy" even more beneficial later. Also, I wanted to add that some local senior centers and AARP chapters offer free Social Security workshops where they walk through these exact scenarios with real examples. I attended one last year and it really helped me understand the concepts before my SSA appointment. The presenter even had handouts with sample calculations for widow strategies. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences - it's so helpful to hear from people who have actually been through this process rather than just reading the confusing government websites!
Sofía Rodríguez
I'm so sorry for your loss. I just went through this exact process 6 months ago when I turned 60, and I completely understand the confusion about conflicting information from SSA! You absolutely CAN apply by phone - don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Here's what worked for me: 1. Call 1-800-772-1213 early morning (around 8 AM) for the best chance of getting through 2. Tell them you want to schedule a phone appointment to apply for survivor benefits 3. They'll schedule it for your 60th birthday or shortly after 4. About 2 weeks before your appointment, they'll mail you forms to complete 5. During the hour-long phone interview, they'll walk you through everything For documents, I mailed certified copies of my marriage certificate using certified mail with return receipt. They returned everything to me within 3 weeks, and I got my first payment about 6 weeks after the phone appointment. The rep who told you that you MUST come in person was definitely misinformed. I never set foot in an SSA office and everything went smoothly. Having your husband's SSN, death date, and marriage date ready will help the process go faster. Don't stress - the phone process is actually much easier than the office visit! You've got enough to worry about without dealing with long office waits on your birthday.
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PaulineW
•Thank you so much for sharing your experience and the condolences. It's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who just went through this! I'm feeling much more confident about the phone process now. The 8 AM calling tip seems to be consistent advice from everyone, so I'll definitely try that tomorrow morning. I have all my husband's information organized already, so hopefully that will make the appointment go smoothly. It's such a relief to know I don't have to spend my 60th birthday sitting in a government office for hours. Really appreciate you taking the time to lay out the timeline - knowing it took about 6 weeks total helps me set realistic expectations.
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Liam O'Sullivan
I'm so sorry for your loss, and I completely understand your frustration with the conflicting information from SSA! I went through this exact same situation about 9 months ago, and I can confirm that you absolutely CAN apply by phone. Here's what I learned from my experience: - The local office reps sometimes give outdated or incorrect information about phone applications - Call the national number (1-800-772-1213) and specifically ask to schedule a "survivor benefits phone appointment" - Best calling times are right at 8:00 AM on weekdays - I got through on my second try this way - They'll mail you paperwork about 2 weeks before your scheduled phone appointment - The actual phone interview takes about 45-60 minutes and they're very thorough For the marriage certificate, I sent a certified copy via certified mail with tracking, and they returned it to me within 2-3 weeks. Since SSA already has your husband's death certificate on file, that part should be straightforward. One tip: when you call, don't mention that a local office rep told you it had to be in-person. Just ask to schedule the phone appointment as if that's normal (because it is!). The phone process was actually much less stressful than I expected, and I received my first payment about 5 weeks after the interview. You're doing the right thing by starting early - this gives you time to get everything sorted properly without rushing. Don't let one misinformed rep discourage you!
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NebulaNinja
•Thank you for sharing your experience and the encouragement! It's so frustrating when you get different answers depending on who you talk to at SSA. I really appreciate the tip about not mentioning the local office rep said it had to be in-person - that's smart advice. I'm definitely going to call tomorrow at 8 AM sharp and just confidently ask for the phone appointment. Knowing that you got through on your second try at that time gives me hope! The 5-week timeline from interview to first payment is really helpful to know for planning purposes. I'm feeling much more optimistic about this whole process now thanks to everyone sharing their experiences here. It's such a relief to know this can actually be done without the office visit hassle.
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