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Social Security survivor benefits at 60 - can I apply by phone instead of office visit?

I'm getting ready to apply for my survivor benefits when I turn 60 next month (late January birthday) and I'm completely confused about the process. I keep reading posts here where people mention applying by phone, but when I called SSA to ask about the process, they told me I can't apply until the exact day I turn 60 AND that I have to do it in person at my local office. How are others managing to apply by phone? Do you have to send in your marriage certificate ahead of time? I know SSA already has my late husband's death certificate on file (they made me bring that when I initially reported his passing), but they said I need to bring the original marriage certificate to the office. The whole survivor benefit application process feels unnecessarily complicated and the information seems inconsistent. I'm worried about doing something wrong and delaying my benefits. Please don't respond with "get a job" comments. I received those on my previous post (which I deleted). I understand I can work while receiving reduced survivor benefits, but that's not what I'm asking about here.

Abigail bergen

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You absolutely CAN apply for survivor benefits by phone! I did this last year. Here's what worked for me: 1. Call SSA 1-2 months before your 60th birthday to schedule a phone appointment for your actual birthday or a day or two after 2. They'll send you a list of documents they need - yes, including the marriage certificate 3. You can mail certified copies ahead of time, or they can sometimes verify these records electronically 4. The phone appointment takes about 45-60 minutes Don't let them tell you it must be in-person unless things have changed dramatically in the past year. The rep you spoke with was misinformed. And you're right to start the process early - backpay only goes 6 months max for survivors.

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Thank you SO much for this information! I was really dreading going to the office on my birthday and sitting there for hours. Do you remember how far in advance you were able to schedule that phone appointment? I want to get this set up ASAP so I don't miss any benefits.

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Ahooker-Equator

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ugh the SSA is SO FRUSTRATING with their inconsistent info!!!! I had the EXACT same issue when applying for my survivor benefits. One rep said phone was fine, another said I HAD to come in person, then another said I could do it online!!! I ended up doing it in person because I didn't want to risk anything getting messed up with my paperwork, but it was a 3 hour wait even WITH an appointment. Just be prepared for them to ask about your work history and earnings because they have to figure out if your own retirement would be higher than your survivor benefit. And if you're turning 60 in Jan 2025, start calling NOW to get that appointment!

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I know, right? It feels like information changes depending on who you talk to! I think I'll try calling again tomorrow and specifically ask for a phone appointment. Did they ask you a lot of questions about your late spouse's earnings history too? I have most of his records but not everything.

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My condolences on your loss. I applied for survivor benefits 3 months ago. The key thing is that you CAN start the application process BEFORE you turn 60, but benefits won't start until you reach 60. What happens is they take your application and hold it until your birthday. I got confused by this too because technically you're "applying" before 60 but not "filing" until 60. Social Security terminology is ridiculous sometimes! I did everything by phone and just mailed in my marriage certificate (kept a certified copy for myself). They already had my husband's death certificate on file too.

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Thank you for the condolences and for explaining the difference between "applying" and "filing" - that actually makes sense! Did they send your marriage certificate back to you promptly? I'm nervous about mailing my only certified copy.

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Tyrone Hill

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SSA representative here. There's a lot of confusion around this process, so let me clarify: 1. You CAN apply for survivor benefits via phone 2. You CAN begin the application process before turning 60, but benefits cannot start until age 60 3. For required documents like marriage certificates, you have options: - Mail certified copies (they will be returned) - Bring them to a local office to be verified and immediately returned - In some cases, SSA can electronically verify these records The confusion often comes from local offices having different procedures. Call the national number (1-800-772-1213) to schedule your phone appointment. January birthdays should call now as our calendar fills quickly after the holidays.

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Thank you for this official information! So helpful to hear directly from someone at SSA. I'll call the national number tomorrow. One more question - if I do the phone application, how long does the entire process typically take before I would receive my first payment?

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Toot-n-Mighty

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i had same problem last year!!! getting anyone on phone was IMPOSSIBLE!!!! waiting for hrs just to get hung up on!!! ended up wasting 3 days trying to call before i found this service called Claimyr that got me connected to a SS agent in like 20 mins!!! saved me so much stress!!! they have video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU once i got thru, i scheduled phone appt for my benefits. way better than going in!!! they mailed forms to fill out before the call. whole thing was pretty smooth after the nightmare of trying to reach someone.

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Lena Kowalski

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Does that service really work? I've been trying to get through to someone at SS for days about my disability application. Might try this if it actually helps.

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Toot-n-Mighty

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totally works!!! best money i spent during that whole stressful time. getting thru to an actual person made ALL the difference with my survivor claim. they got me a jan 12 phone appt when website was showing nothing available til march!!!

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I just went through this process three months ago. Don't listen to the "you must come in person" nonsense - that's outdated info. Here's exactly what happens: 1. Call SSA at 1-800-772-1213 to schedule a phone appointment (do this ASAP) 2. They'll mail you forms to complete before your call 3. During your phone interview, they'll tell you exactly what documents they need 4. You'll mail certified copies of what they need (they return them) 5. Processing takes about 30-45 days after your interview FYI - at 60, you're getting about 71.5% of your late husband's full benefit amount. Remember you can switch to your own retirement benefit later if it would be higher once you reach your own FRA. Don't stress! The process is much smoother than it seems.

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Thank you for breaking it down step by step! I didn't realize they'd mail forms ahead of time - that's really helpful to know. And thanks for mentioning the 71.5% amount - I was trying to calculate what I'd get based on my husband's benefit. I'm planning to switch to my own benefit at my FRA since I think it will be higher.

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Ahooker-Equator

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ALSO!!! Make sure you ask them to explain the earnings limit since you're under FRA!!! They don't always volunteer this info and it can cause HUGE overpayment issues later!!! If you earn over $22,400 in 2025 (I think that's the new limit), they reduce your survivor benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn over the limit. Had a friend who had to pay back thousands because no one told her this!!! 😡

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Oh wow, thank you for this warning! I do plan to work part-time, so this is really important information. $22,400 isn't very high... I'll definitely ask detailed questions about this during my appointment. I definitely don't want an overpayment situation!

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Lena Kowalski

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my friend did hers online without talking to anyone but idk if that works for everyone. said it was pretty easy but took like 3 months to get approved. maybe depends on ur situation? marriage certificates are annoying, had to order a new copy of mine cuz lost original, took forever. good luck!

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Tyrone Hill

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Online applications are available for some survivor situations, but not all. Generally, widows/widowers applying at exactly age 60 need either a phone or in-person interview because there are several factors that need review (earnings test, disability factors, family maximum calculations, etc.). Your friend might have had a different situation or applied at a different age.

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One more thing I forgot to mention - when you schedule your phone appointment, request an itemized list of exactly what documents they need for YOUR specific situation. Each case can be different depending on marriage length, whether you were previously married, if you're working, etc. Also, they'll need your banking info for direct deposit, so have that ready during your phone appointment. And keep detailed notes of everyone you speak with (names, dates, confirmation numbers). This has saved me multiple times when dealing with SSA!

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Great advice about keeping detailed notes of conversations! I've started a dedicated notebook for this whole process. I've been married only once (to my late husband) for 32 years before he passed, so hopefully that simplifies things a bit. I'll definitely request that itemized document list when I call.

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