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Chloe Martin

Confused about switching from Social Security survivor benefits to retirement - do I need to apply again?

I'm about to turn 67 next month (February) and called SSA in November to switch from my survivor benefits to my own retirement benefits starting February for the first payment in March. Now I'm totally confused by the mixed messages I'm getting! First, I got a notice confirming my application with all my correct info on it - great! But then I received another letter saying SSA spoke with me recently and I need to go online to apply for benefits (huh?). When I checked my MySocialSecurity account, it shows my claim is approved but will remain "pending" until my start month. So which is it? Do I need to apply again or not? I'm planning to call tomorrow, but the wait times are ridiculous, and I don't want to waste hours if my application is already processed. Has anyone else dealt with conflicting notices when switching from survivor to retirement benefits? I've been on survivor benefits for 5 years since my husband passed, if that matters. Really appreciate any insights before I spend half my day on hold!

Diego Rojas

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The online system and the letters don't always sync up perfectly. Based on what you described, it sounds like your application WAS successfully submitted by phone, and the MySocialSecurity status showing "approved but pending until start month" is the most current and accurate status. The second letter about applying online was likely an automated notice that didn't account for your phone application. When you switch from survivor benefits to your own retirement benefits, there's just one application process needed, not two. The fact that your MySocialSecurity account shows it as approved is the best indicator that you're all set. If it gives you peace of mind, you can call to confirm, but I wouldn't be too concerned based on what you've shared. Just make sure to verify the payment amount and start date when you do speak with them.

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Chloe Martin

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Thank you so much for this reassurance! The conflicting messages were making me so anxious. Do you know if there's typically a delay between when the status changes from "pending" to actually showing the new benefit amount in my account? I'm wondering if I'll see that update in February or only after I get my first payment in March.

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I had a VERY similar situation when I switched from disability to retirement last year!!! Got one letter saying everything was fine then ANOTHER saying I needed to apply! Called SSA and waited for 2 HOURS only to find out the second letter was automatically generated and my application was already processed!!!! Such a waste of time and SO STRESSFUL! The SSA computer systems do NOT talk to each other properly. Trust what your MySocialSecurity account says - if it shows approved but pending that means you're GOOD TO GO. The online system is more up-to-date than their stupid letters. DON'T waste your time calling unless you see something actually wrong with the benefit amount. Their phone system is BROKEN and you'll just get frustrated!!!

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omg yes! the letters contradict each other all the time! happened to my mom too when she applied

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Zara Ahmed

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When you transition from survivor benefits to retirement benefits, SSA should handle this as a conversion rather than a new application. What matters most is what your MySocialSecurity account shows - if it's showing as approved but pending until your benefit month, that's the most current status. The second notice you received is likely an automated message that doesn't recognize you already applied by phone. This happens frequently with benefit transitions. One thing to verify when you do call: make sure they have the correct month for your benefit to begin. Since your birthday is in February, your first payment should arrive in March (as payments are for the previous month). Also confirm they're using your highest earning years for your PIA calculation. If you're concerned about reaching them by phone, I recently discovered a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that can get you through to an agent without the endless hold times. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. It saved me hours when I needed to straighten out an issue with my benefits.

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Chloe Martin

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Thank you for the detailed explanation. You're right that I need to verify they have the correct start month. And thanks for that tip about Claimyr - I might try that if I can't get through tomorrow. My last call to SSA I waited almost 2 hours before getting disconnected, and I really don't want to go through that again!

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StarStrider

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My sister had this exact issue last year. The online thing said approved but she kept getting letters. Turns out she was fine all along and the first payment showed up right on schedule! SSA sends out these notices automatically and they don't always match what's actually happening with your claim. I wouldn't worry too much.

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Luca Esposito

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I had the same experience when I turned 66 last summer. Got conflicting notices but eventually everything worked out. The SSA computer systems seem to operate independently from each other. As long as your MySocialSecurity account shows it as approved, you should be fine.

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Nia Thompson

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The letters from SSA can sometimes contradict each other due to different automated systems generating them. In your case, what's happening is: 1. Your phone application WAS processed (confirmed by the first notice with your correct details) 2. The second notice about needing to apply online was likely triggered automatically without recognizing your phone application 3. Your MySocialSecurity account showing "approved but pending" is the most accurate reflection of your status You don't need to apply again. This is a common issue with benefit conversions (switching from one type to another). The most important thing is that your MySocialSecurity account shows it as approved. When you do call to confirm, ask specifically about: - The exact amount of your new benefit - The exact month your new benefit begins (should be February based on your post) - Whether any retroactive adjustments will be made if your own benefit is higher than your survivor benefit Make sure to have your exact earnings history available when you call, as sometimes they miss years of earnings when calculating your PIA.

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Chloe Martin

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Thank you so much for breaking this down so clearly! I'll definitely ask about those specific points when I call. I didn't even think about retroactive adjustments - is that something they would do automatically if my own benefit turns out to be higher than my survivor benefit? I was under the impression that it would just switch going forward.

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Nia Thompson

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They typically won't provide retroactive adjustments when you voluntarily switch from survivor to retirement benefits - the switch is only effective from the month you request forward. That's different from situations where SSA discovers an error in your benefit calculation. Since you specifically requested the switch to begin in February, that's when it should take effect. Your March payment (for February) should be at the new benefit rate. If your own retirement benefit is lower than your survivor benefit, you should be counseled to keep the higher benefit, as SSA is supposed to pay the higher of the two.

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sounds like typical ssa confusion to me! when i applied for retirement they sent me 3 different letters all saying different things. the online account is usually right tho. good luck getting thru on the phone!!

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I tried calling the SSA office 5 TIMES last month about a similar issue and either got disconnected or was on hold for so long I had to hang up for other appointments. It's RIDICULOUS!!! 😠

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StarStrider

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I know, right? My neighbor just waits until they open and goes to the local office instead. Says it's faster than trying to call, even with the waiting room time.

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I just used Claimyr last week after seeing it recommended in another thread - they got me connected to SSA in about 20 minutes when I'd been trying for days on my own. Kinda crazy that we need a service just to talk to a government agency we pay taxes for, but it worked great. Their website is claimyr.com and they have a demo video here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU

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Nia Thompson

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Just to add one important point: make sure when you do speak with SSA that you verify they're using your highest 35 earning years to calculate your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) for your retirement benefit. Sometimes years get missed in their system, especially if you had multiple employers or self-employment income. Also, since you're turning 67, which I'm assuming is your Full Retirement Age (FRA) based on your birth year, you should be receiving 100% of your PIA. If you see any reduction applied, immediately question that when you call.

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Chloe Martin

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Thank you for this advice! Yes, 67 is my FRA. I hadn't thought about checking if they have all my earning years correctly recorded. I did work part-time for a few years and had a period of self-employment in the 90s, so I'll definitely make sure they have everything right. I've heard horror stories about people discovering years of earnings missing from their records.

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Luca Esposito

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When I switched from my disability to retirement benefits last year, I got three different notices that all contradicted each other. One said I was approved, one said I needed to apply, and another had an incorrect benefit amount. I finally got it straightened out, but it took multiple calls. My advice is to keep a file with copies of EVERYTHING they send you. Take notes during every phone call including the representative's name and ID number. The SSA systems don't always communicate with each other, so having your own documentation is crucial. Also, don't be surprised if your first payment at the new benefit amount is slightly delayed. Mine was about 2 weeks late, but they eventually got it right with the correct amount.

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I went through this exact same situation about 8 months ago when I switched from survivor benefits to my own retirement at 67. The conflicting letters are unfortunately very common - SSA's different computer systems don't always sync up properly. Based on your description, you're in good shape! The MySocialSecurity account showing "approved but pending" is the most reliable indicator. That second letter telling you to apply online was almost certainly an automated notice that didn't recognize your phone application. A few things that helped me when I was in your shoes: - Screenshot your MySocialSecurity status page for your records - When you do call, ask them to confirm the exact benefit amount and start date - Make sure they have your correct Direct Deposit info on file The wait times are brutal, but if it gives you peace of mind, it's worth one call to confirm everything is set up correctly. My first payment at the new rate came right on schedule despite all the confusing paperwork I received beforehand. You should be all set, but I understand wanting that extra confirmation!

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Ezra Bates

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This is so helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! Taking a screenshot of the MySocialSecurity status page is such a smart idea - I'm definitely doing that today. It's reassuring to know that your payment came through on schedule despite all the confusing paperwork. I think I will make that one call just for peace of mind, but your experience gives me confidence that everything is probably already set up correctly. Thank you for sharing your experience!

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