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I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm in a similar situation - lost my husband at 64 two years ago and I'm now 59. I've been researching this exact strategy and wanted to share what I've learned from meeting with SSA and a financial planner. The key thing I discovered is that even if most of your survivor benefit gets withheld due to the earnings test, you're still establishing your "benefit start date" at 60. This matters because any benefits withheld get added back to your monthly payment once you hit your FRA, essentially giving you a permanent increase. Also, make sure to factor in Medicare timing. If you're planning to work until 65, you'll want to coordinate when to apply for Medicare Part A (which is automatic if you're receiving SS benefits) versus staying on your employer's health plan. One practical tip: I set up a my Social Security account online and requested my benefit estimates there. Much easier than calling! The survivor benefit estimate tool is pretty accurate once you input your husband's earnings record. Have you thought about doing a "practice run" with reduced hours when you turn 60 to see how the earnings test affects you in real time? That's what I'm considering.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and research - this is exactly the kind of real-world insight I was hoping for! I hadn't considered the "benefit start date" aspect and how the withheld benefits get added back as a permanent increase. That makes the strategy seem much more worthwhile even with the earnings test. The Medicare coordination is something I definitely need to research more. I have excellent health insurance through my employer right now, so I'll need to figure out the timing there. I love the idea of doing a "practice run" with reduced hours! That's brilliant - it would let me see the actual numbers in action rather than just trying to estimate. Did you end up trying this approach? And how accurate did you find the online benefit estimates compared to what SSA told you directly? I'm definitely going to set up that online account this week. Sounds much better than the phone horror stories everyone's sharing here!
I'm really sorry for your loss. I went through something very similar when my wife passed at 58 and I was 61. Just wanted to share a few things I learned that might help: First, definitely apply for the survivor benefits at 60 even if you're working. Yes, the earnings test will reduce what you receive, but like others mentioned, those "lost" benefits aren't really lost - they get added back to your monthly amount when you reach FRA. Plus you're locking in your filing date which matters for the calculations. One thing I wish I'd known earlier - you can actually withdraw your application within 12 months if you change your mind about the strategy. It's called a "withdrawal of application" and you'd have to pay back what you received, but it gives you flexibility if your work situation changes. Also, don't forget about the lump sum death benefit ($255) if you haven't claimed it yet. It's not much but every bit helps during this difficult time. The online tools at ssa.gov have gotten much better in recent years. The benefit calculators there gave me pretty accurate estimates, and you can model different scenarios without having to call and wait on hold for hours. Hang in there - navigating all this paperwork and financial planning while grieving is exhausting, but you're asking all the right questions.
Thank you for sharing your experience and for the kind words. I'm sorry for the loss of your wife as well - it's comforting to hear from someone who's been through this process. The withdrawal option is something I hadn't heard about before - that's really valuable to know! Having that 12-month flexibility could be a game-changer if my work situation changes unexpectedly or if I find the earnings test impact is worse than anticipated. I actually completely forgot about the lump sum death benefit. I was so focused on the long-term strategy that I missed that immediate step. Thank you for the reminder! It's reassuring to hear the online tools have improved. After reading about everyone's phone experiences here, I'm definitely going to start with the online calculators and my SSA account rather than trying to call. You're absolutely right about how exhausting this all is. Some days I feel like I need a PhD in Social Security just to make basic decisions! But this community has been incredibly helpful in breaking it all down into manageable pieces.
My aunt went thru something similar with federal workers comp after my uncle died. The WC people kept talking about "retirement age" but what they really meant was that the CALCULATION for the offset changes, not that your benefits automatically switch to something else. Its super confusing and the WC people dont explain it very well!!! Your survivor benefits keep going as long as you dont remarry (at least that was true for my aunt).
I'm in a similar situation but just starting this process - my husband was also a federal employee who passed from work-related injuries. I'm not yet at the age to collect survivor benefits, but reading through all these responses is really eye-opening about how complicated the interaction between Workers' Comp and Social Security can be. It sounds like the key takeaways are: 1) Survivor benefits don't automatically convert to retirement benefits at any age, 2) The Workers' Comp offset calculation method changes at retirement eligibility age (not the benefits themselves), and 3) Getting everything in writing from both SSA and OWCP is crucial because phone representatives often give inconsistent information. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world insight that's so hard to find elsewhere. I'm going to save this thread to reference when I get closer to filing for my benefits.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Going through this process while grieving is incredibly difficult. You've summarized the key points perfectly - those three takeaways are exactly what I wish someone had told me from the beginning! One additional tip from my experience: when you do start the process, try to get appointments rather than relying on phone calls. The in-person meetings at both SSA and with Workers' Comp tend to be more thorough and you can ask them to print out information on the spot. Also, don't hesitate to ask for supervisors if the first person you talk to seems uncertain - I learned this the hard way after getting conflicting information multiple times. This community has been such a lifesaver for navigating all these complicated rules. Wishing you strength as you work through this process when the time comes.
I went through this exact same process last year! Applied online in August for September benefits, and like you, heard absolutely nothing for weeks. The silence was nerve-wracking, but my first payment showed up right on schedule in October on the third Wednesday (my birthday is the 15th). The online portal never updated either - it just said "pending" until suddenly one day it switched to showing my payment history. Since your situation sounds straightforward and you already set up direct deposit, I'd expect your November payment to arrive without any drama. The SSA's communication is terrible, but their payment system is actually pretty reliable once everything is processed. Try not to stress too much - no news really is good news with them!
This is so reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same timeline! The silence really is nerve-wracking when you're planning your finances around it. It's good to know that even though the portal doesn't update, the payments still come through on schedule. I'll try to relax and just wait for that third Wednesday in November. Thanks for sharing your experience - it really helps ease the anxiety!
Just wanted to add that if you're really anxious about the status, you can also try visiting your local SSA office if there's one nearby. I know calling is a nightmare with the wait times, but sometimes the in-person folks can give you a quick status update without the phone hassle. I did this for my mom's application and they were able to confirm everything was processing normally even though the online portal hadn't updated. Just bring a photo ID and your confirmation number from when you applied. Worth considering if you need peace of mind before that November payment date!
Just wanted to add one more thing that might be helpful - since you mentioned your work record is solid, make sure to check if you might qualify for delayed retirement credits by waiting past your full retirement age to claim. If you're the higher earner between you and your fiancé, maximizing your benefit through delayed credits (up to age 70) could really boost the survivor benefit he'd eventually receive. It's worth running the numbers to see if delaying your claim makes sense for your overall household strategy, especially with that 7-year age gap!
That's such a smart point about delayed retirement credits! I hadn't really thought about how maximizing my benefit would help him later as a survivor benefit. With him being 7 years younger, it definitely makes sense to look at the long-term picture. I'll definitely factor that into our planning discussions. Really appreciate all the helpful insights from everyone here!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of keeping good records of your marriage date once you do get married. SSA will need proof of your marriage for any spousal or survivor benefit claims, and having your marriage certificate readily available will make the process much smoother down the road. Also, if either of you has children from previous relationships, getting married could potentially affect their ability to claim benefits on your records in certain situations (like if they're disabled adult children). It's probably worth asking SSA about that specific scenario if it applies to your situation. Overall though, it sounds like marriage won't negatively impact your Social Security benefits - just make sure you both understand the timing of when different benefits become available!
Great advice about keeping marriage records handy! I hadn't thought about the documentation aspect but you're absolutely right - having everything organized from the start will save headaches later. Neither of us has children, so that's not a concern, but I appreciate you mentioning it for others who might be reading this thread. It's reassuring to hear that marriage shouldn't negatively impact our benefits overall. This whole discussion has been incredibly helpful in understanding the various rules and timing considerations!
Steven Adams
One thing to know is that withholding changes can actually be made a few different ways: 1. You can submit a W-4V form by mail or at a local office 2. You can request the change through your MySocialSecurity account online 3. A legal garnishment order can be applied (tax levy, child support, etc.) 4. Medicare premium changes can affect your net payment If someone accessed your online account, definitely report that as potential identity theft. SSA can see the IP address of whoever made the change. If it was a simple mistake, they can usually fix it within one payment cycle. Please update us when you get this resolved! It would help others who might face the same issue.
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Grace Durand
•Thanks for breaking this down so clearly! I finally was able to speak with someone at my local office today. Turns out it WAS an error on their end - somehow they applied a withholding change request from another beneficiary to my account (someone with a similar name/number). They're fixing it and said I should get the difference returned in my next month's payment. What a relief!
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Javier Morales
•That's such great news Grace! What a relief it must be to get that sorted out. It's scary how easily administrative errors like that can happen - mixing up accounts because of similar names/numbers. Thanks for updating us on the resolution! This will definitely help other people who might face the same situation know that persistence pays off and that these errors can be fixed.
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Yara Haddad
Wow, I'm so glad you got this resolved Grace! This is exactly why I always tell people not to give up when dealing with SSA - these administrative mix-ups happen more often than they should. It's honestly pretty concerning that they can accidentally apply one person's withholding request to someone else's account just because of similar names or numbers. Makes me wonder how often this happens without people noticing right away. Thank you for following up with the resolution - it's really helpful to know that local offices can fix these errors and get the money returned relatively quickly. I'm definitely saving this thread in case I ever run into something similar!
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Alfredo Lugo
•This is such a helpful thread! I'm new to receiving Social Security benefits and stories like this make me realize I need to be way more vigilant about checking my payments each month. It's honestly pretty alarming that mix-ups like this can happen so easily in their system. Grace, I'm so glad you were persistent and got it figured out! Do you have any tips for new beneficiaries on what to watch out for or how often we should be checking our accounts?
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