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One last thing to consider: since you're 68 and already past your Full Retirement Age, when you do eventually qualify for spousal benefits, you won't face any reductions for early filing on your end. You'll be eligible for the maximum spousal benefit (up to 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount). However, since it sounds like your own benefit is already established, you'll only receive the difference if the spousal amount is higher. I'd recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA when your husband gets closer to 62 to review all your options at that time.
I just wanted to add one more perspective as someone who worked in Social Security disability advocacy for years. While everyone here is correct about the basic rules, I'd strongly suggest you consider consulting with a Social Security attorney or certified representative before making any major decisions about divorce vs. staying married. The financial implications can be complex - for example, if your husband has a much higher earnings record, staying married might eventually give you better survivor benefits if he passes away first (you'd get 100% of his benefit instead of the 50% spousal rate). An attorney can run the numbers on both scenarios and help you make the most financially beneficial choice for your specific situation. Many offer free consultations for Social Security matters.
This is really excellent advice! I hadn't even thought about the survivor benefits aspect. You're right that the long-term financial picture could be very different depending on which path I choose. A consultation with a Social Security attorney sounds like a smart investment before I make any irreversible decisions about divorce. Thank you for bringing up this important point - it's exactly the kind of thing I wouldn't have known to consider on my own.
Thank you all for the incredibly helpful responses. I clearly need to reconsider my plan. The points about survivor benefits for my wife and the tax implications of our combined income are especially eye-opening. It sounds like with our money market interest, we'd definitely be in the 85% taxable range for SS benefits. I'm going to sit down and run some more detailed calculations on the long-term impact of waiting vs. taking benefits early. And thanks to whoever mentioned Claimyr - I've been trying to reach SSA for weeks with no luck, so I'll check that out too.
Glad you found the feedback helpful. The Social Security decision is one of the most important financial choices you'll make. Consider consulting with a fee-only financial advisor who specializes in retirement planning - they can run detailed calculations specific to your situation. Many offer one-time consultations for a few hundred dollars, which could save you thousands in the long run by optimizing your claiming strategy.
Great discussion here! As someone who went through this exact decision process last year, I wanted to add a few practical considerations that might help: 1. **Tax planning opportunity**: Since your wife is the higher earner and delaying until 70, you might actually benefit from taking SS at 63 if you can manage the tax burden strategically. Consider doing Roth conversions during the gap years before her benefits kick in - you'll have lower combined income during that window. 2. **Sequence of returns risk**: Your brother-in-law's investment strategy assumes you can consistently beat that 8% guaranteed return from delaying benefits. But what if we hit a bear market right after you start taking benefits? You'd be selling investments at a loss to supplement the reduced SS payments. 3. **Medicare considerations**: Don't forget that you'll be eligible for Medicare at 65 regardless of when you take SS. Factor those premiums into your calculations. 4. **State taxes**: Depending on your state, SS benefits might be tax-free at the state level even if federally taxable. This could affect your overall tax strategy. The survivor benefit impact others mentioned is HUGE - if you pass first, your wife would be stuck with your reduced benefit amount for life. With her being the higher earner, this could significantly impact her financial security. Have you considered splitting the difference and waiting until your FRA at least? That eliminates the permanent reduction while still getting benefits earlier than 70.
This is really comprehensive advice! I'm new to thinking about all these retirement decisions and honestly feeling a bit overwhelmed by all the moving pieces. The point about Roth conversions during the gap years is interesting - I hadn't considered that there might be a window of opportunity there. Can you explain a bit more about how the sequence of returns risk works? I think I understand the concept but want to make sure I'm thinking about it correctly. And you're absolutely right about the survivor benefit issue - that seems like it could be a really big deal for my wife's long-term security. The idea of waiting until FRA as a compromise is appealing. Is there a good rule of thumb for when that middle-ground approach makes the most sense versus going all the way to 70?
That sounds like a smart decision! Just wanted to add one more thing to consider - if you do decide to delay starting benefits, make sure you factor in the delayed retirement credits you'll earn. For each month you delay claiming benefits past your full retirement age (up until age 70), your benefit increases by about 0.67% per month, which adds up to 8% per year. So depending on how close you are to your FRA, delaying might actually work out better financially in the long run, even without the earnings limit complications. Good luck with your semi-retirement planning!
That's a great point about delayed retirement credits! I hadn't fully considered how much that 8% annual increase could add up over time. Since I'm still 4 years from my FRA, those credits could really make a difference in my long-term financial picture. It's reassuring to know that delaying benefits isn't just about avoiding the earnings limit hassle - it could actually be the smarter financial move overall. Thanks for adding that perspective!
Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact scenario last year. I was 63 and planned to work part-time while collecting benefits. The monthly limit in the first year is absolutely enforced - learned that the hard way! One thing that might help with your planning: SSA has a really useful online tool called the "Retirement Earnings Test Calculator" that lets you plug in your specific earning pattern and see exactly how it would affect your benefits. It's buried pretty deep on their website, but if you search for "earnings test calculator" it should come up. Also, don't forget that if you're married, your spouse's benefits could also be affected by your earnings if they're claiming spousal benefits. Something to factor into your decision-making process. The delayed retirement credits that Ava mentioned are definitely worth considering too - that 8% annual increase is guaranteed and better than most investment returns these days!
Just wanted to add one more thing that helped me when I applied - create your MySocialSecurity account online BEFORE you actually apply for benefits. This way you can familiarize yourself with the interface and also monitor your application status after you submit it. I created mine about 6 months before applying and it made the whole process much smoother. You can also use it to double-check your earnings history and benefit estimates before you commit to a start date. The account setup takes a few days to verify, so don't wait until the last minute!
That's excellent advice about setting up the MySocialSecurity account early! I actually already have one from checking my annual statements, but I hadn't thought about using it to monitor the application process. Good point about the earnings history too - I should probably double-check that everything looks accurate before I apply in December. Thanks for the tip!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - make sure you have all your documents ready before you apply! SSA will need your birth certificate, W-2s or tax returns, and bank account info for direct deposit. I applied online but then had to mail in documents which delayed my processing by almost 2 months. If you have everything uploaded or ready to mail when you submit your application, it'll go much smoother. Also keep copies of everything you send them - I learned that the hard way when they "lost" my birth certificate the first time!
Great point about having documents ready! I went through something similar when I applied for Medicare - they kept asking for additional paperwork that delayed everything. For Social Security, do you know if they accept digital copies of documents uploaded through the online application, or do they prefer original hard copies mailed in? I have scanned versions of everything but want to make sure I submit them in the format that will process fastest.
Ezra Bates
As you're planning for the future, remember that when your husband eventually files, you'll need to contact Social Security to ensure they process your spousal benefit properly. While it should happen automatically, sometimes there are delays if you don't initiate the process. Also, when you receive the spousal add-on, it will be effective from the month your husband begins receiving benefits, not retroactive to when you started receiving your own benefits. Make sure to mark your calendar to contact SSA as soon as he files.
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Taylor Chen
•That's really good to know - I would have assumed it was automatic. I'll definitely follow up with SSA when the time comes.
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Daniel Rogers
I'm in a very similar situation! I'm 64 and took my benefits at 62, and my husband is 66 but still working. He keeps saying he wants to wait until 70 to maximize his benefits, but I've been wondering if there's any way I can get spousal benefits sooner. Reading through all these responses, it's clear that I'm in the same boat as you - we both have to wait until our husbands actually file. It's frustrating but at least we're getting something now. Have you calculated roughly what your spousal benefit might be once he does file? I'm trying to figure out if it will be worth the wait for us financially.
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Ravi Sharma
•Hi Daniel! It's so frustrating being in this waiting game, isn't it? I haven't done the exact calculations yet, but from what I've learned here, I should be able to get about 32.5% of my husband's PIA as a spousal benefit (reduced because I filed at 62). Since his earnings were always higher than mine, I'm hoping it will be a decent boost to my current benefit. You might want to try calling SSA or using that Claimyr service someone mentioned to get your specific numbers. At least we know we're not alone in this situation! The waiting is hard but sounds like it could be worth it financially.
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GalaxyGazer
•@Ravi Sharma Thanks for sharing your perspective! I think you might have mixed up who posted what though - I'm Taylor (the original poster) and Daniel is the one asking about calculations. But you're absolutely right about it being frustrating! I'm leaning toward having my husband wait until at least his FRA since the spousal benefit for me will be based on his PIA anyway. The 32.5% figure that Ezra mentioned earlier really helps put it in perspective. If your husband's benefit is significantly higher than what you're currently getting, the wait might definitely be worth it. Good luck with your situation too!
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