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I'm planning to take early retirement at 62 next summer and just noticed something confusing when reviewing my Social Security statement. Under the 'Survivors Benefits' section, it mentions my 13-year-old daughter could get benefits if I die, but I can't find ANYTHING about whether she'd be eligible for benefits while I'm still alive and just collecting retirement. Does anyone know if children get benefits when a parent starts collecting Social Security retirement? My ex-wife has been telling me our daughter could get a monthly check once I start collecting, but I don't want to count on that money for her college fund if it's not true. I've tried calling SSA twice but kept getting disconnected after 45+ minutes on hold.
I'm completely stressed about my retirement benefits situation. I'm turning 65 in January 2025 and decided to stop working on September 30, 2024. I've already made about $84,000 for the 9 months I worked this year. My SSA statement shows I'd get approximately $2950 monthly at my full retirement age (67), but I want to file now. I'm confused about the earnings limit. The application asked if I made over $2270 in any month in 2024. Obviously I did since I was making around $9300 monthly before I stopped working. Does this mean I won't get ANY benefits until 2025? Or will they just reduce my payments? My wife (61) is also planning to claim her spousal benefits when eligible. Her statement shows about $1075 if she claims at 62. The confusing part is that on one screen, it showed benefits would start 01/2025, but on another screen it showed possible reduced benefits starting 11/2024. I'm fine taking the reduction for filing 2 years early, but I'm worried about the earnings limit wiping out my payments completely. Should I just wait until January 2025 to file? I'm trying to figure out the smartest time to start these benefits without leaving money on the table.
Thank you all for the incredibly helpful advice! I'm definitely going to wait until January 2025 to start my benefits, but I'll apply in November 2024 to get the ball rolling. I'm relieved to understand that my 2024 earnings won't affect my 2025 benefits as long as I start in January. And I'll look into that Claimyr service to speak with an SSA agent about the specifics of my situation. For my wife, we'll need to compare her own benefit at 62 versus the reduced spousal benefit to see which would be higher. Looks like we have some calculations to do! I really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain everything so clearly. This stuff is complicated and it's easy to make costly mistakes when you don't fully understand the rules.
Great thread with lots of solid advice! Just want to add one thing about Medicare enrollment since you mentioned turning 65 in January 2025 - make sure you sign up for Medicare Part A and B during your Initial Enrollment Period (3 months before your 65th birthday through 3 months after). Even though you're retiring early, you'll need Medicare coverage starting at 65. Also, if you have employer health insurance through COBRA or retiree benefits, you'll want to coordinate the timing so there's no gap in coverage. Medicare and Social Security enrollment are separate processes, so don't assume applying for one automatically handles the other. The January 2025 start date for Social Security benefits that everyone's recommending is definitely the smart financial move given your 2024 earnings!
This is such an important reminder about Medicare! I hadn't even thought about the fact that Medicare enrollment is separate from Social Security. So I need to enroll in Medicare during my Initial Enrollment Period even though I'm starting Social Security benefits in January? And you're right about coordinating with any existing coverage - I'll need to check if my former employer offers retiree health benefits or if I'll need to rely on COBRA until Medicare kicks in. Thanks for bringing this up!
Yes, you'll need to enroll in Medicare during your Initial Enrollment Period which starts 3 months before you turn 65 (so October 2024 for you). Medicare Part A (hospital insurance) is automatic and free if you've paid into Social Security, but you need to actively enroll in Part B (medical insurance) unless you have qualifying employer coverage. Since you stopped working in September 2024, you'll likely want to enroll in Part B to start January 2025 when you turn 65. If you delay Part B enrollment without qualifying coverage, you could face late enrollment penalties later. You can apply for Medicare online at ssa.gov or by calling 1-800-772-1213. The Medicare and Social Security applications are completely separate, so you'll need to handle both even though they're through the same agency.
My husband and I are trying to figure out the best strategy for claiming SS benefits, particularly since there's a pretty big gap in what we'll each receive. I'm 63 (turning 64 next month) and my husband is 61. Based on my limited work history, my retirement benefit would only be about $375/month if I claim at 65. My husband, on the other hand, will get approximately $3750 at his full retirement age (67). I've heard conflicting things about spousal benefits. Should I take my tiny benefit now or wait until my husband files? I'm confused about whether I'd get 50% of his benefit as a spouse or if they just bump up my smaller benefit to that amount. Does claiming early permanently reduce what I might get as a spousal benefit later? Financially we're okay for now, but I'm worried about maximizing what we get long-term. Any advice from folks who've navigated this spousal benefit situation would be really appreciated!
Just be careful about the rules for spousal benefits. When they changed the laws in 2015 a lot of strategies went away. My friend thought she could get spousal and then switch to her own higher benefit later but they don't allow that anymore. I think it's called "deemed filing" now where they automatically give you whichever is higher but you can't choose anymore. The whole system is needlessly complicated if you ask me!
You're absolutely right about deemed filing. The Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015 eliminated many file-and-switch strategies. For anyone born after January 1, 1954, when you file for any retirement benefit, you're deemed to have filed for all benefits you're eligible for. In the original poster's case, this means when her husband files at 67 and she becomes eligible for spousal benefits, she'll automatically receive the higher of either her own benefit (potentially reduced if she claimed early) or her spousal benefit (also potentially reduced if she claimed her own benefit early). This reinforces why getting personalized advice from SSA about your specific situation is so important. The deemed filing rules have significantly changed optimal claiming strategies.
This is really helpful information about deemed filing! I had no idea about the 2015 law changes. It sounds like the old strategies where people could file for one benefit and then switch to another later are no longer available. Given that I was born well after 1954, it seems like waiting until my husband files really is the best approach since I won't have the option to file for spousal benefits separately later. Thanks for clarifying these rule changes - it definitely reinforces our decision to wait!
I went through this exact same decision process about 2 years ago! My situation was very similar - small benefit vs. my husband's much larger one. After running the numbers with an SSA representative (took several calls to get consistent info), we decided I should wait. One thing that really helped was using the SSA's online benefit calculators at ssa.gov to model different scenarios. You can see estimates for claiming at different ages. Also, don't forget to factor in Medicare timing - you'll want to sign up for Medicare at 65 even if you're not claiming SS yet to avoid penalties. The math really does favor waiting in most cases when there's such a big difference in benefits. The spousal benefit reduction from early filing can be substantial and permanent. Good luck with whatever you decide!
Thanks for mentioning the Medicare timing! That's something I hadn't considered yet. So I need to sign up for Medicare at 65 even if I'm not taking Social Security benefits? I don't want to accidentally get hit with penalties later. And you're right about the online calculators - I should definitely spend some time playing around with those to see the actual numbers for our situation.
I lost my husband about 3 months ago - he was 70 and already collecting his retirement benefits. I'm currently 63 and receiving my own SS retirement (I took it early at 62). I want to maximize my survivor benefits by waiting until I can get the full amount, but I'm confused about exactly when that would be. My full retirement age (FRA) is 67 years and 2 months according to SSA, but someone at my grief support group mentioned I could get 100% of survivor benefits at 66 years and 8 months instead? Is this correct or am I misunderstanding something? I can't afford to leave money on the table, but waiting those extra 6 months is significant for my budget planning. Has anyone dealt with this specific survivor benefit timing issue?
good luck with everything... losing a spouse is so hard... the benefits stuff is just extra stress nobody needs
I'm so sorry for your loss, Yara. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you're on the right track understanding that survivor FRA is different from regular retirement FRA. One thing I'd add that might help with your planning - since you mentioned budget concerns about waiting those extra 6 months - you might want to calculate exactly what the monthly difference would be between taking survivor benefits now versus waiting until your full survivor FRA. Sometimes seeing the actual dollar amounts over your expected lifetime can help make the decision clearer. Also, when you do contact SSA (whether by phone, online, or in person), ask them to send you a written confirmation of your survivor benefit FRA date and the benefit amounts at different claiming ages. Having it in writing can be really helpful for your records and peace of mind. Wishing you strength as you navigate both the grief and these complicated benefit decisions.
My father-in-law just passed away last Tuesday (March 3rd). He was 76 and receiving about $2,800/month in Social Security retirement benefits. My mother-in-law gets her own SS benefits but they're much lower (around $1,450). We understand she'll eventually get his higher benefit amount as a survivor, but we're confused about what happens to his March payment that should be arriving tomorrow. Since that payment is for February when he was alive the entire month, shouldn't his account still receive it? Can my mother-in-law somehow request that final payment or does Social Security just keep it? We're trying to help her figure out all the financial stuff and this is really confusing.
my condolances on your loss. when my mom died they did deposit her last check then took it back out a few days later!!! then put it back again after my dad called them. its so confusing i think even the ssa people dont know there own rules sometimes
I'm sorry for your family's loss. I work in benefits administration and can clarify the confusion here. Your father-in-law's February payment (received in March) should absolutely be payable since he lived through the entire month of February. The key rule is that beneficiaries must be alive for the complete calendar month to receive benefits for that month. However, Social Security may initially freeze or recall the payment when they process the death report, even if it's legitimately owed. This is a protective measure while they verify details. Your mother-in-law should specifically mention this February payment during her survivor benefits appointment and ask them to verify it wasn't improperly withheld. One important note: if the payment does get recalled initially, don't panic. She can file Form SSA-1724 to claim any benefits properly due to the estate. The SSA representative should be able to help with this during her appointment. Also make sure she asks about the $255 lump-sum death payment - it's a small benefit but every bit helps during this difficult time.
Hassan Khoury
This is really helpful information everyone! I had no idea about the FAFSA impact - that's a huge consideration since we're hoping she'll qualify for need-based aid. It sounds like I need to run the numbers on whether the 5 years of child benefits would be worth the potential reduction in college financial aid. Does anyone know if there's a way to estimate what the family maximum would be in my situation? I only have one child and no ex-spouse collecting benefits, so I'm hoping we'd get closer to the full 50%. Also, when you all applied for the child benefits, did you need to bring any specific documentation beyond the birth certificate? I think I'm going to try that Claimyr service someone mentioned - after two failed attempts at calling SSA, I really need to speak with someone who can walk me through all these calculations before I make any decisions.
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Kiara Greene
As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share some additional resources that might help with your decision-making process. I recently went through a similar situation and found that the SSA's online Retirement Estimator tool (ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html) can give you preliminary estimates for both your retirement benefits and potential auxiliary benefits for dependents. One thing I learned that hasn't been mentioned yet is that you can actually apply for retirement benefits up to 4 months before you want them to start. This gives you more time to gather documentation and plan the timing, especially if you're trying to coordinate with college financial aid considerations. Also, regarding the FAFSA impact that several people mentioned - I discovered that some states have different rules for how Social Security benefits are treated in their state financial aid programs. It might be worth checking with your state's higher education agency to understand the full picture of how these benefits could affect aid eligibility beyond just federal aid. The local SSA offices can provide a personalized benefit statement that shows projections for different claiming ages, including estimates for dependent benefits. When I made my appointment, I specifically asked for a "benefit projection worksheet" and they were able to print out scenarios showing benefits at 62, full retirement age, and age 70, along with the corresponding child benefit amounts. Hope this helps with your planning! This community has been such a great resource for navigating these complex decisions.
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Cole Roush
Thanks for sharing those resources, Kiara! As someone completely new to both this community and Social Security planning, I really appreciate the practical tips about the online Retirement Estimator and being able to apply 4 months early - that timing flexibility could be really valuable. Your point about state-specific financial aid rules is something I hadn't considered at all. I'll definitely need to research how my state treats Social Security benefits in their aid calculations. It's becoming clear that this decision has so many more layers than I initially realized! The "benefit projection worksheet" sounds like exactly what I need to request when I schedule my SSA appointment. Having those concrete scenarios with different claiming ages and the corresponding child benefit amounts will help me model out the long-term financial impact much better. This thread has been eye-opening for me - I came in thinking this was a straightforward question about whether child benefits exist, and now I realize I need to consider timing strategies, FAFSA impacts, state aid rules, and family maximum calculations. Thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences and expertise!
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