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One thing I'd add that helped me plan - try running different scenarios on the SSA calculators to see how various earning levels affect your total annual income (SS benefits + work income). Sometimes earning a bit less keeps you under the $22,320 limit and actually results in more total money in your pocket than earning more and having benefits reduced. Also, if you're married, don't forget about spousal benefits! Your spouse might be able to claim on your record even if you claim early, though their benefit would also be reduced. The timing strategies can get complex with married couples, so it's worth understanding all your options before making the decision. The calculators are definitely confusing at first, but once you get the hang of them they're really helpful for modeling different scenarios. Good luck with your planning!

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This is really helpful advice about running different scenarios! I hadn't thought about how staying just under the limit might actually give me more total income than earning more and losing benefits. That's exactly the kind of practical insight I was looking for. The spousal benefits angle is also something I need to research more since my husband is a few years older than me. Thanks for the tip about getting comfortable with the calculators - I'll keep working with them until they make more sense!

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Just want to add a practical tip from my own experience - when you're calculating that earnings limit, make sure you understand how they track it. I learned the hard way that if you have irregular income (like seasonal work or commission), Social Security looks at your monthly earnings, not just the annual total. So even if you're under $22,320 for the year, if you earn more than $1,860 in any single month, they can still withhold benefits for that month. Also, if you're thinking about claiming at 62, consider your healthcare situation carefully. Many people don't realize that Medicare doesn't start until 65, so you'll need to bridge that gap somehow. If you're still working part-time with benefits, that might help, but if not, individual health insurance can be expensive and eat into those Social Security benefits pretty quickly. One more thing - keep really good records of your earnings if you do decide to work after claiming. Social Security sometimes makes mistakes in their calculations, and having your own documentation makes it much easier to get things corrected.

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This is such important practical advice, especially about the monthly earnings limit! I had no idea they looked at it month by month rather than just annually - that could really trip people up who have seasonal or variable income. And you're absolutely right about the healthcare gap - I've been so focused on the Social Security numbers that I hadn't fully considered what health insurance will cost from 62 to 65. That could definitely eat into those benefits quickly. Thanks for the tip about keeping detailed records too - it sounds like having your own documentation is really important if there are any disputes later.

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One other piece of advice - if you expect to earn over the limit, you can voluntarily suspend your benefits for any months you expect to exceed it, rather than having SSA calculate the withholding. This can give you more control over when the reductions occur. Just contact SSA before the month you want to suspend. You can then resume benefits in months where your earnings will be lower.

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I didn't know you could do that! That's really useful since my earnings might fluctuate seasonally. Thanks for this tip - definitely gives me more flexibility in planning.

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Just wanted to add one more consideration for your planning - make sure you understand how the earnings test calculates "earnings." It only counts wages and net self-employment income, NOT things like pensions, 401k withdrawals, investment income, rental income, or other retirement income. So if you're transitioning to part-time work but also have other income sources, only your actual work earnings count toward that $22,320 limit. This might give you more flexibility in your income planning than you initially thought!

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This is such an important clarification! I was actually worried about my 401k withdrawals and some rental income I have counting toward that limit. Knowing it's only actual work wages makes my planning so much easier. I was doing all these calculations trying to figure out how to manage multiple income streams, but now I realize I only need to worry about my part-time wages. Thank you for pointing this out - it's going to save me a lot of stress!

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Thanks everyone for the excellent advice! I'm going to help my wife apply for SSI to document her disability status, even though we expect to be denied due to our household income. We'll also work on gathering all her medical records and making sure her condition is well-documented. And we'll definitely use that phone service to speak directly with SSA about our specific situation. This community has been incredibly helpful - I feel much better informed about our options now. Turning off comments.

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I'm glad you found all this advice helpful! Just wanted to add one small but important detail - when your wife applies for SSI to establish her disability status, make sure she keeps copies of EVERYTHING she submits. The initial application, all medical records, denial letters, everything. If she ever needs to apply for disabled widow's benefits later, having that complete paper trail will save you both a lot of headaches. Also, don't be discouraged if the SSI application gets denied initially - that's actually expected in your case due to household income, but the important thing is getting her condition officially reviewed and documented by SSA. Good luck to both of you!

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This is such great additional advice! I hadn't thought about the importance of keeping copies of everything, but you're absolutely right - having that complete documentation trail will be crucial if we need it later. It's also reassuring to know that an initial SSI denial is expected in our situation and doesn't mean we've failed. We're just trying to get her disability status on record with SSA. Thank you for taking the time to add these important details!

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As someone who's been following Social Security policy changes closely, I want to add a few practical considerations for your decision. The WEP/GPO repeal is indeed a game-changer, but you're right to think carefully about timing. Since you mentioned having 11 zeros in your 35-year calculation, continuing to work until 70 serves a dual purpose: replacing those zeros with actual earnings AND getting the 8% delayed retirement credits. That's potentially a significant boost to your monthly benefit. Also, keep in mind that your teaching pension is substantial at $3,750/month, so you're not in a position where you desperately need the Social Security income right now. The math strongly favors waiting if you're in good health and have family longevity on your side. One tip: create a my Social Security account online if you haven't already - it should eventually reflect the WEP elimination in your benefit estimates, though as others noted, the system updates are still rolling out.

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I hadn't thought about the dual benefit of working until 70 - both replacing zeros AND getting the delayed credits. That makes the decision much clearer. I do have a my Social Security account but you're right, the estimates still show the old WEP-reduced amounts. I'll keep checking periodically for updates. Given that I'm financially stable with my pension, waiting seems like the smart move. Thanks for breaking down all the factors so clearly!

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Congratulations on reaching this milestone! The WEP/GPO repeal is absolutely life-changing for so many of us with government pensions. I'm in a similar boat - retired from the postal service with 28 years and have been agonizing over my Social Security timing. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly enlightening. The key insight that really resonates is that with your pension already providing solid income, you have the luxury of optimizing for maximum lifetime benefits rather than immediate need. With 11 zeros to replace and the 8% annual credits, waiting until 70 seems like a no-brainer mathematically. I'm curious though - have you considered what happens to your spousal benefits if you're married? The WEP elimination affects those calculations too. Also, for those still waiting on SSA system updates, I called last week and the representative mentioned they're expecting the new benefit calculations to be available online by late spring, so keep checking those estimates!

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Thanks for bringing up spousal benefits - that's something I hadn't fully considered! I am married, and my spouse has their own Social Security record from private sector work, so the WEP elimination should help with any spousal benefit calculations too. Good to know about the late spring timeline for updated online estimates - I'll mark my calendar to check back then. It sounds like we're both in similar situations with government pensions giving us the flexibility to optimize timing. Your point about having the "luxury" to wait really puts it in perspective. Between replacing those zeros and the delayed credits, the math seems pretty clear. Appreciate you sharing your experience with calling SSA too!

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Just wanted to add one more important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your wife is caring for your child who is under 16 or disabled, she could potentially receive survivor benefits immediately (regardless of her age) as a "mother's benefit" or "caregiver benefit." This benefit would be 75% of your PIA and wouldn't have the same age restrictions as regular survivor benefits. Also, don't forget that any unmarried children under 18 (or up to 19 if still in high school, or any age if disabled before 22) would also be eligible for survivor benefits of 75% of your PIA each. These family benefits are subject to a family maximum, but it's something to factor into your overall planning. The planning you're doing now is really smart - having all this information ahead of time can make an incredibly difficult situation much more manageable for your wife.

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Thanks for bringing up the mother's/caregiver benefit - that's such an important point that often gets overlooked! Even though the original poster didn't mention having minor children, this is crucial information for anyone in similar situations who might be reading this thread. It's reassuring to know that surviving spouses with young children don't have to wait until 60 to receive some support. The fact that you're thinking through all these scenarios really shows how much you care about your family's financial security.

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This is such valuable information everyone is sharing! As someone who works with families going through these situations, I want to emphasize one key point that might not be obvious: the timing of when you pass away can significantly impact the survivor benefit calculation. Since you're 63 and haven't claimed yet, if something happened to you now, your wife's survivor benefit would be based on your current PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). But if you wait until, say, age 67 or 70, she'd get the benefit of any delayed retirement credits you've earned - which could be 24-32% higher than your PIA. However, there's a balance to consider: waiting longer means fewer years of potential survivor benefits. It might be worth running the numbers both ways - claiming earlier vs. waiting for delayed retirement credits - to see what maximizes the total lifetime benefit for your family situation. Also, make sure your wife knows where to find all the important documents she'd need (your Social Security number, marriage certificate, death certificate, etc.) and consider creating a simple guide for her about the steps to take with SSA. The last thing you want is for her to be searching for paperwork during an already difficult time.

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This is excellent advice about the timing considerations! The point about delayed retirement credits potentially increasing survivor benefits by 24-32% is huge - that could mean thousands more per year for the surviving spouse. But you're absolutely right that it's a balancing act between maximizing the benefit amount versus the number of years it could be received. Creating that document guide is such a thoughtful suggestion too. I've seen families struggle just to locate basic paperwork during grief, and having everything organized ahead of time would be such a gift to a surviving spouse. Maybe include account information, contact details for SSA, and even a simple checklist of steps to take. The more you can handle the logistics now, the more your wife can focus on healing if the worst happens.

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