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Can my non-working wife get SSDI or survivor benefits from my record at 54?

I started receiving SSDI in March 2023 due to serious health issues. I'm now 63, and honestly, my health isn't improving. My wife is 54 and hasn't worked outside our home for probably 8+ years because of severe anxiety and PTSD from a traumatic event. Back when she stopped working, I was making enough to support us both, so we never pursued disability benefits for her. Now I'm worried about her future - especially if something happens to me before she reaches her full retirement age. Does it make sense for her to try getting officially documented as disabled through Social Security at this point? Is she eligible for any spousal benefits based on my SSDI now? And if I pass away before she reaches her FRA, would she qualify for survivor benefits even though she's still in her 50s? I feel like I really dropped the ball by not having her apply years ago when her conditions began.

Thanks everyone for the excellent advice! I'm going to help my wife apply for SSI to document her disability status, even though we expect to be denied due to our household income. We'll also work on gathering all her medical records and making sure her condition is well-documented. And we'll definitely use that phone service to speak directly with SSA about our specific situation. This community has been incredibly helpful - I feel much better informed about our options now. Turning off comments.

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I'm glad you found all this advice helpful! Just wanted to add one small but important detail - when your wife applies for SSI to establish her disability status, make sure she keeps copies of EVERYTHING she submits. The initial application, all medical records, denial letters, everything. If she ever needs to apply for disabled widow's benefits later, having that complete paper trail will save you both a lot of headaches. Also, don't be discouraged if the SSI application gets denied initially - that's actually expected in your case due to household income, but the important thing is getting her condition officially reviewed and documented by SSA. Good luck to both of you!

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Will Social Security earnings limit continue after reaching FRA or does it end?

I'm planning to claim Social Security benefits at 63 (about 6 months from now), but I'm confused about the earnings limit. I know there's a limit to how much I can earn while collecting SS before my full retirement age (which is 67 for me), but I'm not clear what happens after that. If I start benefits early AND keep working, will I be permanently stuck with the annual earnings limit even after I reach 67? Or does the earnings limit completely go away once I hit my FRA regardless of when I started collecting? My financial advisor mentioned something about this but I want to make sure I understand correctly before I pull the trigger on filing. I'm still working full-time now and plan to transition to part-time (20-25 hours/week) next year.

One other piece of advice - if you expect to earn over the limit, you can voluntarily suspend your benefits for any months you expect to exceed it, rather than having SSA calculate the withholding. This can give you more control over when the reductions occur. Just contact SSA before the month you want to suspend. You can then resume benefits in months where your earnings will be lower.

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I didn't know you could do that! That's really useful since my earnings might fluctuate seasonally. Thanks for this tip - definitely gives me more flexibility in planning.

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Just wanted to add one more consideration for your planning - make sure you understand how the earnings test calculates "earnings." It only counts wages and net self-employment income, NOT things like pensions, 401k withdrawals, investment income, rental income, or other retirement income. So if you're transitioning to part-time work but also have other income sources, only your actual work earnings count toward that $22,320 limit. This might give you more flexibility in your income planning than you initially thought!

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Social Security WEP reform passed - do substantial earnings years still matter at 68?

I just read that Congress finally eliminated the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and Government Pension Offset (GPO). Big relief, but now I'm confused about my retirement strategy. I've been meticulously counting my 'substantial earnings years' under Social Security (currently at 23 years) after spending most of my career as a state government employee with a pension. I'm 68.5 now and was planning to wait until 70 to file for Social Security to maximize my benefit and get a few more substantial earnings years. With WEP gone, does tracking substantial earnings years even matter anymore? Should I just file now instead of waiting another 1.5 years? My pension from teaching is about $3,750/month, and my estimated SS benefit at 70 would be around $1,890/month. Any insights from those who've dealt with pension/SS combinations?

just wonderin has anyone actually gotten their benefits recalculated yet after this wep repeel? my husband called ssa and they said they dont have guidanse yet on how to implement the changes :/

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This is common when new legislation passes. The SSA typically needs several months to update their systems, train their staff, and issue internal guidelines on implementing changes. For something as significant as the WEP/GPO repeal, it wouldn't be surprising if the full implementation takes 6-12 months. They'll likely process the changes automatically once their systems are updated, but it never hurts to follow up periodically.

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As someone who's been following Social Security policy changes closely, I want to add a few practical considerations for your decision. The WEP/GPO repeal is indeed a game-changer, but you're right to think carefully about timing. Since you mentioned having 11 zeros in your 35-year calculation, continuing to work until 70 serves a dual purpose: replacing those zeros with actual earnings AND getting the 8% delayed retirement credits. That's potentially a significant boost to your monthly benefit. Also, keep in mind that your teaching pension is substantial at $3,750/month, so you're not in a position where you desperately need the Social Security income right now. The math strongly favors waiting if you're in good health and have family longevity on your side. One tip: create a my Social Security account online if you haven't already - it should eventually reflect the WEP elimination in your benefit estimates, though as others noted, the system updates are still rolling out.

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Will my son lose his father's Social Security benefits if I apply for SSI due to his autism diagnosis?

My situation is pretty complicated and I'm worried about making the wrong move with Social Security. My 4-year-old son currently receives benefits from his father who started collecting Social Security retirement at 65. Now my son was just diagnosed with autism, and I'm wondering if applying for SSI (Supplemental Security Income) for him would affect the benefits he already gets from his dad's record. Our household income is still pretty low, which is why I think he might qualify for SSI too. Has anyone dealt with having a child receive both types of benefits? I don't want to accidentally mess up what he's already getting if I apply for the additional SSI benefits. Any advice is really appreciated!

have u looked into the childhood disability benefit (CDB)? its different than SSI and might be better in your case since your son already gets benefits from dad

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Just to clarify, Childhood Disability Benefits (also called Disabled Adult Child benefits) only apply when a child reaches adulthood and was disabled before age 22. Since the original poster's son is only 4, he wouldn't qualify for CDB/DAC benefits yet. That would potentially be something to consider when he's older, especially if his father passes away.

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Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! I called my local SSA office this morning and got some additional information. They confirmed what many of you said - my son can receive both benefits, but the SSI amount will be reduced. They also explained that the autism diagnosis doesn't affect his current benefits from his dad at all. I'm going to go ahead with the SSI application mainly for the Medicaid coverage. Really appreciate all your help navigating this complicated system!

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That's great news! Make sure you keep copies of ALL his medical records related to the autism diagnosis when you apply for SSI. They'll need documentation from doctors, therapists, and even his preschool if he attends one. Good luck with everything!

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So glad you were able to get through to SSA and get clear answers! That's honestly half the battle with these programs. The Medicaid coverage alone will probably save you thousands on therapy costs. Best of luck with the application process - you're doing great advocating for your son!

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Social Security survivor benefits for 57-year-old spouse - calculation timing and COLA adjustments explained

I'm trying to plan ahead for my family just in case something happens to me. I'm currently 63 and still working, haven't filed for SS benefits yet. My wife is 57. I'm confused about how survivor benefits would work if something happened to me before I start collecting: 1. Would her survivor benefits be calculated based on what I would have received on the day I died, even though I haven't claimed yet? 2. Since she's only 57, would she have to wait until her full retirement age (67?) to get the full survivor benefit amount, or could she get it earlier with a reduction? 3. What happens with cost-of-living adjustments? If she's eligible for survivor benefits but too young to collect the full amount, do those benefits still increase with COLA each year while she waits? I'm trying to make sure she'll be taken care of financially if the worst happens. Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

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Thank you all for the incredibly helpful information! This clarifies so much for me. I'm going to look more closely at the numbers and possibly consult with someone at SSA to get specifics for our situation. One more question: If I continue working past my FRA until, say, 67 or 70, would those additional earnings potentially increase the survivor benefit calculation if they're higher than some of my earlier years?

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Yes! Additional years of higher earnings can definitely increase your Social Security benefit calculation, which would in turn increase any survivor benefits. SSA uses your highest 35 years of earnings to calculate your benefit. If you're earning more now than in some of those earlier years (especially after adjusting for inflation), those higher-earning years will replace lower-earning years in the calculation, potentially increasing your PIA and any survivor benefits based on your record.

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Zara Shah

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That's great to know. I am earning more now than early in my career, so working longer could help both my eventual retirement benefit and any potential survivor benefit for my wife. This has been extremely helpful for our planning. I really appreciate everyone's insights!

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Just wanted to add one more important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your wife is caring for your child who is under 16 or disabled, she could potentially receive survivor benefits immediately (regardless of her age) as a "mother's benefit" or "caregiver benefit." This benefit would be 75% of your PIA and wouldn't have the same age restrictions as regular survivor benefits. Also, don't forget that any unmarried children under 18 (or up to 19 if still in high school, or any age if disabled before 22) would also be eligible for survivor benefits of 75% of your PIA each. These family benefits are subject to a family maximum, but it's something to factor into your overall planning. The planning you're doing now is really smart - having all this information ahead of time can make an incredibly difficult situation much more manageable for your wife.

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