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Just want to add something that might help with your decision - you can actually withdraw your Social Security application within 12 months if you change your mind! If you file in January 2025 and then realize the earnings test is making it not worthwhile, you can withdraw your application (as long as it's within 12 months) and repay any benefits you received. Then you could reapply later when it makes more sense. This gives you a bit of a safety net to try it out and see how the numbers actually work in practice. Of course, you'd need to be able to repay any benefits received if you go this route, but it's good to know the option exists! Also, make sure to keep detailed records of all your earnings throughout 2025 - pay stubs, bonus documentation, etc. This will help if there are any discrepancies when SSA does their annual reconciliation.
Wow, I had no idea you could withdraw your application within 12 months! That's actually really reassuring to know there's a way to reverse course if it doesn't work out. I definitely wouldn't have trouble repaying benefits if needed since I'd still be working. This might be the perfect solution - I can try filing in January, see how the actual numbers work out with my real earnings, and then decide whether to continue or withdraw and wait until FRA. Thanks for mentioning this option, it really helps with my peace of mind about making this decision!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet that might be relevant for your situation - if you're still working and receiving benefits, make sure you understand how this affects your future benefit calculations too. SSA uses your highest 35 years of earnings to calculate benefits, so if your current $63k salary is higher than some of your earlier working years, continuing to work could actually increase your future benefit amount even beyond the FRA recalculation that Diego mentioned. Also, since you're born in 1959, your FRA is 66 years and 10 months (July 2026), so you'd only be subject to the earnings test for about 18 months if you file in January 2025. Given that the benefits aren't permanently lost and you get credit back at FRA, plus the potential for increasing your benefit calculation through continued high earnings, it might actually make more sense to file than I initially thought when I just looked at that reduced monthly payment of ~$357. The withdrawal option Millie mentioned is definitely a good safety net too. You could essentially test-drive the system for a year and see how it works out in practice!
This is really helpful perspective, Javier! I hadn't thought about how my current earnings might actually boost my future benefit calculation if $63k is higher than some of my earlier years. That's definitely something to factor in. And you're right that 18 months isn't that long to deal with the earnings test, especially knowing I get credit back at FRA. Between the withdrawal option as a safety net and the potential for higher future benefits through continued work, filing in January is starting to look more attractive. I think I'm leaning toward giving it a try - worst case I can always withdraw and start over if the math doesn't work out in practice. Thanks for helping me see the bigger picture beyond just that reduced monthly payment!
Welcome to the community! I'm new here too and wanted to add my perspective since my family dealt with almost the exact same situation recently. My mom was receiving about $850 monthly while my dad got $2,900, and we had no clue about spousal benefits until someone at their church mentioned it. When we finally contacted SSA, we learned that my mom was entitled to receive up to 50% of my dad's Primary Insurance Amount, which ended up increasing her monthly benefit to around $1,450. The key thing we discovered is that even though she had filed early at 62 (which reduced her own retirement benefit), the spousal benefit calculation could still result in a higher total payment. The process wasn't too complicated once we got started. We scheduled an appointment at our local SSA office, brought their marriage certificate, both Social Security cards, and recent benefit statements. The representative was able to process the adjustment within about 3 weeks, and mom received retroactive payments for the previous 6 months. One tip that really helped us: ask the representative to explain the difference between your mom's current benefit and what her spousal benefit would be, so you understand exactly how much the increase will be. With your parents' income gap and long marriage, I'd be very surprised if your mom isn't entitled to significantly more than $900 monthly. Hope this helps!
Welcome to the community, and thank you for sharing such detailed information about your family's experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this process. The increase your mom received from $850 to $1,450 is exactly the kind of outcome we're hoping for with my parents' situation. I really appreciate the specific advice about asking the representative to explain the difference between the current benefit and potential spousal benefit - that will help us understand exactly what we're looking at. Your timeline of 3 weeks for processing plus 6 months of retroactive payments gives us a good expectation of what to expect. Thank you for taking the time to share all these helpful details!
Hi there! I'm new to this community but wanted to share what we discovered with my grandparents in a very similar situation. My grandmother was only receiving about $920 monthly while my grandfather got $2,650, and it took us way too long to realize she might be eligible for more. When we finally contacted SSA, we learned that despite her filing early at age 62, she was still entitled to spousal benefits that brought her total monthly payment up to around $1,325 - a significant increase that really helped with their monthly expenses. The whole process took about 4-5 weeks from our initial appointment to seeing the increased payments. A couple of practical tips that made our experience smoother: First, we found that scheduling an in-person appointment worked better than trying to handle this over the phone. Second, we brought copies of both their Social Security statements (which you can print from ssa.gov), their marriage certificate, and recent benefit letters. Having all the paperwork ready seemed to speed things up considerably. One thing that surprised us was that my grandmother received retroactive payments for several months, which was a nice unexpected bonus. The SSA representative explained that even though she had claimed early, the spousal benefit calculation could still result in a higher overall payment than her reduced retirement benefit alone. With your parents' 55-year marriage and that income gap, I'd be very surprised if your mom isn't entitled to a significant increase. Don't wait on this - every month of delay means money they're missing out on. Best of luck with the process!
Thank you for sharing your grandparents' experience! It's really encouraging to see another example where early filing didn't prevent someone from getting spousal benefits. The increase from $920 to $1,325 that your grandmother received is very similar to what we're hoping for with my mom's situation. I really appreciate the advice about scheduling an in-person appointment rather than dealing with phone calls - that seems to be the consensus from everyone who's been through this process. Having all the paperwork ready beforehand makes total sense too. The retroactive payments your grandmother received would definitely be a welcome surprise! You're absolutely right that we shouldn't delay this any longer. Thank you for the encouragement and practical tips!
my sister said when they adopted their foster kids the benefits got reduced but then they qualified for adoption subsidies from the state that made up the difference. maybe look into that too?
I went through a similar situation last year when we were considering adopting my nephew. One thing that really helped was getting a written estimate from SSA before making any final decisions. I used the appointment system online and specifically requested they calculate the exact family maximum for our situation - not just rough estimates. The agent was able to print out a detailed breakdown showing exactly how each person's benefits would be affected. It took about 3 weeks to get the appointment, but having those concrete numbers made all the difference in our planning. Also, don't forget that if you do adopt, the grandchildren's benefits would continue until they turn 18 (or 19 if still in high school), so factor in how the family maximum situation will change over time as beneficiaries age out.
That's exactly the kind of detailed information I need! Thank you for sharing your experience. I didn't know I could request a written estimate with the exact family maximum calculation. That sounds much more reliable than the quick conversation I had at the office. I'll definitely try to schedule an appointment online specifically for this. The timeline aspect is really important too - I hadn't considered how things would change as the grandchildren age out of benefits. That could actually work in our son's favor in the long run since his DAC benefits would continue indefinitely while theirs are temporary.
does anyone know if this same rule applies for disability? my brother is on SSDI and wants to try working part time
No, SSDI has completely different rules. For SSDI recipients in 2025, there's a Trial Work Period allowing work above $1,110/month for 9 months. After that, earnings above Substantial Gainful Activity level (around $1,550/month in 2025) can cause benefits to stop. Your brother should contact SSA directly about the Ticket to Work program before starting any job.
Sophia Long
To find out what your late husband's full benefit would be, you'll need to speak with an SSA representative. This information isn't readily available on your my Social Security account. When you call, ask specifically for what his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) was - that's the term for his full benefit amount. Then compare that to your own benefit to see which will be higher at your FRA.
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Carter Holmes
•Thank you! I'll specifically ask about his PIA when I call. This has been really helpful - I understand my options much better now.
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Savannah Weiner
I'm in a similar situation and have been researching this extensively. One thing I learned that might help you is that you can actually do a "restricted application" strategy in some cases. Since you're currently receiving both SSDI and survivor benefits, when you reach FRA you'll want to calculate which option gives you the most money overall. Sometimes it makes sense to take your full survivor benefit now and delay your own retirement benefit until age 70 to get delayed retirement credits (8% per year), but this depends on your specific numbers. Also, make sure to get everything in writing when you speak with SSA - I've heard too many stories of people getting different answers from different representatives. Document the date, time, and name of whoever you speak with.
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Katherine Ziminski
•This is really valuable information about the restricted application strategy! I hadn't heard about delaying my own retirement benefit to get those delayed credits while taking the survivor benefit. That 8% per year increase could really add up. Do you know if there's a calculator somewhere that can help figure out which option would be better long-term? And you're absolutely right about getting everything in writing - I've already gotten different answers from the automated phone system versus what people are saying here.
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