

Ask the community...
Just wondering but why didn't you apply for spousal benefits right when you reached FRA? Did you start working again or something? Just curious because I'm trying to figure out my own situation.
Great question! I just went through this process myself about 8 months ago. Here's what I learned: definitely schedule your appointment at least 6-8 weeks in advance, not just one month. The processing can take longer than expected, especially if they need additional documentation. Also, make sure to ask them to estimate your new monthly amount during the appointment so you know exactly what to expect. In my case, the spousal benefit added about $340 to my monthly payment, but it took almost 2 months to show up in my direct deposit. One tip: if you have trouble getting through on the phone to schedule, try calling right at 8 AM when they open - that's when I had the best luck. Good luck with everything!
One other important point: while the maximum WEP reduction increases annually with the wage index, your husband's actual WEP reduction might increase at a different rate. This is because the actual reduction depends on his specific Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) calculation. The WEP essentially changes how the first bend point in the formula is applied (reducing it from 90% to as low as 40%), but the full calculation involves all your earnings history. So the actual dollar impact can increase at a different rate than the maximum WEP amount.
The complexity around WEP calculations can definitely be overwhelming! For planning purposes, you might also want to know that SSA typically announces the new bend points (and thus the maximum WEP reduction) in October along with the COLA announcement, but they're published in separate documents. The bend points are usually found in SSA's "National Average Wage Index" announcement. Also, if you're doing multi-year projections, historical wage index growth has averaged around 3-4% annually over the long term, though it can vary significantly year to year based on economic conditions. This might help you create rough estimates for your retirement planning until the official numbers come out.
This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea the bend points were announced separately from COLA - that explains why I couldn't find this info when I was looking at the regular benefits announcements. The historical 3-4% average for wage index growth gives me a good baseline for rough projections too. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain all these details - this thread has been more informative than hours of trying to navigate the SSA website!
I'm so sorry for your loss, and I think it's wonderful that you're finding love again. As someone who recently went through the survivor benefits application process myself, I can confirm what others have shared - you absolutely CAN remarry after age 60 and keep your survivor benefits from your first husband. I was in a similar situation about 6 months ago (I'm 63 now). I applied for survivor benefits at 60 and remarried at 62. The key things I learned: 1. The age 60 rule is firm - remarry before 60 and you lose benefits, remarry at 60 or after and you keep them 2. You must notify SSA within 10 days of remarrying (I used their online portal which was super easy) 3. Consider the timing - I'd suggest getting your survivor benefits established first, then remarrying once that's all sorted One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: if your new partner is also receiving Social Security, you might eventually be able to switch to spousal benefits on their record if it would be higher than your survivor benefit. It's worth discussing with an SSA representative when you apply. The whole process was much less scary than I expected, and it sounds like you're asking all the right questions. Best wishes for both your benefits application and your future happiness!
Thank you so much for sharing your personal experience - it's exactly what I needed to hear! It's reassuring to know that someone went through this same situation successfully just 6 months ago. Your timeline sounds very similar to what I'm planning (applying at 60, potentially remarrying around 62). I really appreciate the tip about using the online portal to report the marriage change - I didn't know that was an option and it sounds much easier than calling or visiting an office. The point about potentially switching to spousal benefits later is something I hadn't considered, so I'll definitely ask about that when I speak with SSA. It gives me so much peace of mind to hear from someone who actually did this recently. Thank you for the kind words about finding love again - it feels good to know there's a path forward that protects both my financial security and my future happiness!
I'm new to this community but wanted to share something that might help with your situation. My mother-in-law went through almost the exact same thing about 5 years ago. She was widowed at 62, waited until she turned 60 to apply for survivor benefits (even though she was already past 60 when she applied), and then remarried at 65. One thing she learned that I haven't seen mentioned here is that when you're collecting survivor benefits and then remarry, SSA will actually review your case to see if you might be eligible for higher benefits. In her case, her new husband had a much higher earnings record, so after they'd been married for a year, she was able to switch to spousal benefits on his record which gave her about $300 more per month. Also, she mentioned that having all her paperwork organized made the whole process much smoother. She created a folder with copies of everything - marriage certificate, death certificate, tax returns, etc. - and brought copies to leave with SSA while keeping the originals at home. The peace of mind you'll have knowing you can remarry without losing those benefits is worth so much. Wishing you all the best as you navigate this new chapter!
This is such valuable information, thank you for sharing your mother-in-law's experience! I hadn't thought about the potential for SSA to review my case after remarriage to see if I might qualify for higher benefits - that's definitely something I'll ask about when I apply. The tip about organizing all paperwork in a folder with copies is really practical too. I've been collecting documents but hadn't thought about the logistics of what to bring vs. what to keep at home. It sounds like your mother-in-law really benefited from being thorough and prepared. The fact that she ended up with $300 more per month after switching to spousal benefits shows how important it is to understand all your options. Thank you for the encouraging words - it really helps to hear these success stories from people who have actually been through this process!
I'm in a similar situation but just turned 62 and wondering if I should start my survivor benefits now or wait. Reading through all these responses about COLAs applying to future benefits is really helpful! One thing I'm still confused about though - if I start survivor benefits at 62, will those also get the annual COLAs? And then when I switch to my own retirement at 70, will I get the benefit of all those COLAs that were applied to my own record during those 8 years? It sounds like from what everyone is saying that the answer is yes to both, but I want to make sure I understand this correctly before making the decision.
Yes, you're understanding it correctly! Survivor benefits do receive annual COLAs, so if you start collecting at 62, those payments will increase each year with cost-of-living adjustments. And yes, your own retirement record also gets COLAs applied to it even while you're not collecting on it - so when you switch to your own benefits at 70, you'll get the benefit of all those accumulated COLAs plus the delayed retirement credits. The key thing to consider at 62 is whether your survivor benefit is higher than what your own reduced retirement benefit would be. If the survivor benefit is significantly higher, it often makes sense to take it and let your own record grow with COLAs and delayed credits until 70. But definitely get current benefit estimates before deciding!
I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm 58 and my husband passed away 6 months ago. I haven't applied for survivor benefits yet because I'm still working full-time and wasn't sure if it made sense to start them now or wait. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful, especially understanding that COLAs apply to both current survivor benefits AND my future retirement benefits even while I'm not collecting on my own record yet. One question - does anyone know if there's an earnings limit that affects survivor benefits? I'm making about $65k per year and worried that might reduce any survivor benefits I'd be eligible for. Also, is it true that survivor benefits aren't reduced for early claiming the same way regular retirement benefits are? I've read conflicting information about this online. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - it's so much more helpful than trying to navigate the SSA website or sitting on hold for hours!
Alice, I'm so sorry for your loss. Yes, there is an earnings limit for survivor benefits if you're under full retirement age, and it's the same limit that applies to regular Social Security benefits. For 2024, if you're under full retirement age for the entire year, you can earn up to $22,320 without any reduction in benefits. If you earn more than that, they reduce your benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn above the limit. At $65k, you'd be well over that limit, so your survivor benefits would likely be significantly reduced or even eliminated entirely while you're working full-time. However, this is where the strategy gets interesting - any benefits that are "withheld" due to the earnings test aren't actually lost forever. When you reach full retirement age, SSA recalculates your benefit to give you credit for the months when benefits were reduced or withheld. So you might want to consider waiting until you reduce your work hours or reach full retirement age to claim survivor benefits, then switch to your own record at 70 if it's higher. And yes, survivor benefits follow different reduction rules than regular retirement benefits - they're reduced less severely for early claiming, but the earnings test still applies the same way.
Jasmine Hancock
One important thing to note - when you reach FRA, the earnings test no longer applies at all. You can earn any amount without affecting your benefits. So if you're close to your FRA (July 2026), you might want to consider whether it's worth potentially changing your work situation for a relatively short period. Also, the ARF recalculation is designed to eventually pay you back the equivalent of what was withheld, just spread out over your lifetime. So in theory, you should come out roughly even in the long run.
0 coins
Kayla Morgan
•" Eventually "and in" theory are big assumptions! What if someone'doesn t live long enough to get back all that money? Then the government just keeps it?'That s why I tell everyone to just wait until FRA if'they re stillworking.
0 coins
Everett Tutum
Just wanted to add my perspective as someone who went through this recently. I had a similar situation where I took early retirement at 62 and kept working part-time. Had to pay back about $8,000 over two years due to earnings limit. The good news is that @Jasmine Hancock is right about the ARF adjustment - it does happen and it's designed to make you whole eventually. In my case, my monthly benefit increased by about $150 after I reached FRA. One thing I'd suggest is keeping really good records of exactly how much you've paid back and when. I created a simple spreadsheet tracking all the amounts SSA withheld. This made it much easier when I called them after my FRA to verify the recalculation was done correctly. Also, since you're enjoying your work and only have about a year and a half until your FRA, I'd personally stick with it. The combination of the ARF increase plus any potential benefit from higher recent earnings years could work in your favor long-term. Plus, staying active and engaged through work has benefits beyond just the financial aspect!
0 coins
NeonNinja
•Thank you for sharing your experience, @Everett Tutum! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I wish I had thought of that from the beginning. I've been trying to piece together all the withholding amounts from different notices and letters. Your $150 monthly increase after paying back $8k gives me hope that this will actually work out positively in the end. I think you're right about sticking with work, especially since I genuinely enjoy what I do. The mental and social benefits of staying engaged are probably worth something too, even if they're harder to quantify than the financial aspects.
0 coins