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I've been getting survivor benefits since my husband passed away last March (2024). Just received my SSA-1099 for tax filing and noticed something strange - it shows they deducted $4,216.50 for 'work or other deductions'. This makes no sense to me! I'm 68 and completely retired since 2022. Social Security is my ONLY income besides about $780 in bank interest last year. I never requested any tax withholding from my benefits. Called the SSA three times and got disconnected each time after waiting forever. Has anyone seen this kind of mysterious deduction on their 1099? Could it be some kind of error or am I missing something about survivor benefits? Really worried about this affecting my taxes!
I'm freaking out right now! Just opened my mail to find a letter from Social Security saying my monthly benefit is being reduced by $270 starting next month!!! The letter says I have 60 days to appeal, but I have NO IDEA why this is happening or what 'proof' I'm supposed to provide. I started collecting my retirement benefits in March 2025 when I was 65 and 8 months old. My benefit amount has been consistent for the past 6 months and matched exactly what the SSA calculator showed on my account. I verified my earnings record before filing and everything was correct. The letter doesn't explain WHY they're reducing my benefit - just says there was an 'adjustment to my computation.' Has anyone dealt with this before? What kind of wording should I use in my appeal? And honestly, with all these Social Security scams going around, is there a way to verify this letter is even legitimate before I panic completely?
my neighbor had something similar happen and turns out it was totally a scam!!! the letter looked real but had him call a fake number. make sure u call the real social security number not whatever is on that letter!
Just to add one more possibility to consider - did you receive any lump-sum payments in the past 6 months? Things like retroactive benefits, insurance payouts, or large severance packages? Sometimes these can trigger recalculations. Also, if you had significant earnings in 2024 that weren't reported until recently, they might have just now been factored into your Average Indexed Monthly Earnings (AIME), which would affect your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). This is less common but does happen.
Severance pay is actually considered wages for Social Security purposes and is subject to FICA taxes. It counts toward the earnings test if you're under FRA. Since you received $15,000 in severance in 2024 and then worked part-time earning under $20,000 in early 2025 before filing, the combined amount would exceed the annual earnings limit. This is almost certainly why your benefit is being reduced. Make sure to specifically address this in your appeal if you believe there's been a miscalculation in how they're applying the earnings test.
@098e357b40a7 That severance payment combined with your early 2025 earnings is almost certainly the culprit! Here's what likely happened: SSA initially calculated your benefits based on incomplete earnings information. When your employer reported the severance payment (which can take months to show up in their system), it pushed your total 2024-2025 earnings over the limit, triggering the reduction. The good news is this might be temporary - once you reach full retirement age, the earnings test no longer applies and they'll recalculate to give you credit for any months benefits were reduced. In your appeal, ask them to show exactly how they're applying the earnings test and confirm the specific earnings amounts they're using.
I just got blindsided with an IRMAA notice for my Medicare premiums next year. I'm 53 and have been on SSDI for 3 years due to MS. The letter says my premiums are jumping by $260/month because of our 'higher income' in 2023. Here's the thing - we weren't actually 'high income' in any normal sense. My husband inherited his parents' old farmhouse last year, and withdrew $85,000 from his retirement account to make it habitable before putting it on the market (it goes back to all siblings when sold per the will). We never saw that money as 'income' - it went straight to contractors for a new roof, plumbing, etc. Now I'm being financially penalized on my SSDI Medicare coverage! Is there any appeal process for this kind of one-time situation? Or is this just one of those marriage penalties we have to accept? The extra $3,120/year in premiums is going to completely wreck our budget.
Gd luck with it. The whole medicare/SS system is so confusing. I've been on SSDI for 5 yrs and still don't understand half of it. They never explained IRMAA could even apply to disabled ppl under 65!!!!
You're right that it's poorly explained. IRMAA applies to anyone on Medicare, regardless of age or whether you qualify through disability or age. The income calculations are based on your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) from two years prior. For 2025 IRMAA determinations, they're using your 2023 tax returns. That's why one-time income spikes can affect you two years later, even if your current income is much lower.
I'm really sorry you're dealing with this frustrating situation! As someone new to navigating SSDI and Medicare, I had no idea IRMAA could even apply to people under 65 on disability benefits. Reading through everyone's advice here has been incredibly helpful - especially learning about Form SSA-44 and the regular appeal process using Form SSA-561-U2. It sounds like you have a strong case given that this was clearly a one-time withdrawal for a specific purpose (house repairs) and you have all the documentation to prove it. The fact that the money went straight to contractors and the house will eventually be sold per the will terms should help demonstrate this wasn't regular income. Good luck with your appeal - please keep us updated on how it goes! This thread has been educational for those of us who might face similar situations in the future.
I'm planning my retirement and trying to figure out our household Social Security income. I'll be 65 in 2028 and thinking about claiming my benefits then (I know it's before my FRA). My wife will only be 62 at that time. I've always been told spouses get half of the other person's benefit, but I'm confused about whether she can get that at 62 or if she has to wait until her full retirement age. Will she be eligible for half of my benefit when I claim, or does her age reduce what she gets? Also, she worked part-time for about 15 years - does that change anything about her spousal benefit? I've tried reading the SSA website but got lost in all the details.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - consider your overall claiming strategy carefully. If you have decent savings and can afford to wait, you might consider having your wife claim her OWN benefit at 62 (if she has enough credits), while YOU delay until 70. Then she could switch to the higher spousal benefit later. This maximizes your household's lifetime SS income, especially if either of you lives beyond age 80. The survivor benefit is also an important consideration - when one spouse dies, the surviving spouse gets to keep the LARGER of the two benefits, so maximizing at least one benefit can provide important protection.
WAIT! I'm confused now. Does she get 32.5% of YOUR benefit amount, or 32.5% of what YOUR benefit WOULD HAVE BEEN at your full retirement age???? This matters a lot!!! I thought it was based on what you actually GET?
It's 32.5% of what your benefit would have been at YOUR full retirement age (your PIA). So if your full retirement age benefit would be $2000, your spouse would get about $650 at age 62, even if you're taking a reduced benefit yourself by claiming early. Hope that helps clarify.
@Oliver Fischer explained it perfectly. It s'always based on your PIA Primary (Insurance Amount -) what you d'get at full retirement age. So even though you re'taking a reduced benefit by claiming at 65, your wife s'spousal calculation is still based on your unreduced amount. This is actually good news for spouses! If it were based on the reduced amount, spousal benefits would be even smaller when the higher earner claims early.
I'm planning to retire next year at 63 and start collecting Social Security, but I'm confused about how my 401k affects things. I know there's an earnings limit ($23,920 in 2025 I think?) before they reduce my SS benefits, but do 401k withdrawals count toward this limit? I've worked for the same company for 28 years and have about $670,000 in my 401k. My financial advisor suggested I should start taking distributions right away, but I'm worried this might reduce my SS checks. Anyone know for sure if 401k withdrawals are considered "earnings" for the Social Security earnings test? Thanks!
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! Just to summarize what I've learned: 1. 401k withdrawals do NOT count toward the earnings limit test (which is what I was originally worried about) 2. BUT 401k withdrawals CAN increase how much of my Social Security gets taxed 3. AND large withdrawals might increase my future Medicare premiums I definitely need to meet with both my financial advisor and tax person to create a better withdrawal strategy. This is much more complicated than I realized!
This is such a valuable discussion! I'm also approaching retirement and had similar concerns about 401k withdrawals affecting my Social Security. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational. One thing I'd add is that it might be worth considering doing some Roth conversions before you start taking Social Security if you have traditional 401k funds. Since Roth withdrawals don't count toward the combined income calculation (as Andre mentioned), converting some of your traditional 401k to Roth now while you're still working could give you more tax-free income options later. Of course, you'd pay taxes on the conversion, but it might be worth running the numbers with your advisor. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and knowledge!
Maya Diaz
Just to give you peace of mind for tax filing: This doesn't change how you report your SS benefits on your tax return. You'll use the amount in Box 5 of your SSA-1099 ("Net Benefits"), which is already reduced by these deductions. Box 3 shows total benefits before deductions, and Box 4 shows what was deducted (your Medicare premiums). The only real tax impact is that those Medicare premiums might be deductible as medical expenses if you itemize deductions on Schedule A and your total medical expenses exceed 7.5% of your AGI.
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Ella rollingthunder87
AuthorThank you for explaining the tax implications! I wasn't sure how to handle this on my return. I usually take the standard deduction since my medical expenses don't reach the threshold for itemizing, but it's good to know how this all works.
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Lucas Adams
I'm so glad you got this figured out! I'm new to this community but dealing with similar Social Security questions as I approach retirement. This whole thread has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea that Medicare premiums would show up as "work deductions" on the 1099 form. The SSA really should make their forms clearer! It seems like this confusion happens to a lot of people every tax season. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences here.
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