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I'm currently helping my elderly father navigate this same process, and this thread has been incredibly valuable! He's 68 and has been putting off applying because he was overwhelmed by all the options and worried about making mistakes. Based on everyone's experiences here, we're definitely going to go with the online application. The tip about creating a "my Social Security" account first to review earnings history is perfect - we just did that and it will make the actual application so much easier. One thing I wanted to add for anyone else helping a family member with this - we found it helpful to call the local SSA office first just to confirm what documents we'd need. Even though we couldn't get through to discuss the full application, the automated system does provide a checklist of required documents, which saved us time gathering everything. The reassurance from everyone about the system's built-in error checking and ability to make corrections later really helps reduce the anxiety around this process. Thank you to everyone who shared their detailed experiences - you're making this major life transition much less stressful for families like ours!

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What a thoughtful approach you're taking to help your father! I'm so glad this thread has been helpful for your family's situation. The tip about calling the local SSA office for the document checklist is really smart - even if you can't get through to a person, getting that automated information can definitely streamline the preparation process. It sounds like you and your father are well-prepared with the "my Social Security" account already set up and the document gathering underway. That preparation will make such a difference when you actually sit down to complete the application. The fact that he has your support through this process will probably make it feel much less overwhelming for him. One small addition to consider - when you do complete the application together, you might want to have him be the one actually clicking through and entering information (with your guidance) so he feels ownership of the process. Sometimes that can help reduce anxiety about "someone else handling my important paperwork." But every family dynamic is different, so go with whatever feels most comfortable for both of you. Best of luck with the application process! Your father is fortunate to have such a caring advocate helping him navigate this important step.

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I'm a newcomer to this community but found myself in a very similar situation recently! I was also 67 and incredibly anxious about the whole Social Security application process. After reading through all these detailed experiences, I wanted to add my voice to encourage you to go with the online application. What really helped me was realizing that SSA has actually invested quite a bit in making their online system user-friendly - it's not like some of the clunky government websites we might remember from years past. The step-by-step guidance is genuinely helpful, and the fact that you can save your progress takes away the pressure of having to complete everything in one sitting. One thing that gave me confidence was seeing how many people mentioned that SSA will work with you to correct any minor issues rather than rejecting your application outright. That really reduced my fear of making a mistake that would somehow mess up my benefits permanently. For your September/October timeline, applying now is absolutely the right move. I applied about 3 months before I wanted my benefits to start, and everything processed smoothly. Having that confirmation number and being able to track the progress online gave me such peace of mind during the waiting period. You've gotten fantastic advice from everyone here - take the leap with the online application. You'll be so relieved once it's submitted!

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Welcome to the community, Aisha! Your experience really echoes what so many others have shared here - that initial anxiety about the process versus the reality of how manageable it actually is. I think your point about SSA investing in making their online system user-friendly is spot on. It's reassuring to hear from yet another person who had a smooth experience with the 3-month advance timeline. What I find most encouraging about all these shared experiences is how consistently positive they've been for the online application route. It really seems like the system has evolved to address many of the concerns people naturally have about such an important process. The ability to track progress online and have that confirmation number as a safety net makes such a difference for peace of mind. Thank you for adding your voice to encourage others who might be facing the same decision! Stories like yours help reduce the anxiety that seems to be such a common part of this major life transition.

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I'm in a very similar situation with my elderly father who's on SSI and drives a 20-year-old Honda that's barely roadworthy. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - especially the success stories from Samantha and others who managed this without losing benefits. Based on what I'm seeing here, the consensus seems to be: - Get multiple professional valuations to establish true fair market value - Sell to a third-party business (salvage yard/dealer) rather than family to avoid transfer penalty scrutiny - Document everything extensively with photos and written assessments - Handle spend-down within the same calendar month - Keep transactions completely separate One additional question for those who've been through this: Did any of you encounter issues with SSA questioning why you didn't try to repair the old vehicle instead of replacing it? I'm wondering if we should also get documentation showing that repair costs would exceed the car's value to justify replacement rather than repair. Also, for the timing - is there any advantage to completing this process at a particular time during the SSI reporting cycle, or does it not matter as long as everything is properly documented and reported? Thank you all for sharing your experiences. This thread is going to save my dad and me from making costly mistakes!

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Great question about documenting repair costs vs. replacement! When I helped my sister through this process, we actually did get repair estimates that showed the cost to fix everything would have been around $3,500 on a car worth maybe $800 in good condition. Having those repair estimates definitely strengthened our case that selling/replacing was the reasonable choice rather than putting money into repairs. Regarding timing in the SSI reporting cycle - from what I learned, it's actually better to do this earlier in your reporting period rather than right before redetermination. That gives you time to establish a clear paper trail and answer any questions that might come up, rather than having everything scrutinized during the intensive redetermination review. One thing I'd add to your excellent summary: make sure your dad reports the sale proactively rather than waiting to be asked. When we reported it immediately with all our documentation attached, the caseworker actually complimented us on being so thorough and organized. It definitely set a positive tone for the whole process. The fact that you're planning this out so carefully puts you way ahead of where most people start. Your dad is lucky to have someone looking out for him like this!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm really grateful to find such detailed and helpful advice on this topic. I'm actually dealing with a very similar situation with my grandmother who's on SSI and has a 23-year-old Buick that's on its last legs. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been eye-opening - especially the cautionary tale from Ella about the 6-month benefit loss and the success stories from Samantha and others who navigated this properly. It's clear that documentation and keeping transactions separate are absolutely critical. I have one question that I haven't seen addressed yet: For those who successfully went through this process, did you give SSA any advance notice that you were planning to help your relative with a vehicle replacement? Or is it better to just handle everything properly and report it after the fact? My grandmother's caseworker has always been pretty reasonable, and I'm wondering if a brief heads-up conversation might actually be helpful to make sure we're on the right track. But I also don't want to inadvertently invite extra scrutiny if the standard approach is to just document everything thoroughly and report normally. Also, thank you to everyone who's shared their experiences here - especially Anastasia's professional insights and the step-by-step approaches from Samantha and others. This thread is going to save a lot of people from making expensive mistakes with their SSI benefits!

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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I've scheduled a meeting with the VA benefits counselor next week and I'm going to bring printouts of the SSA determination letter. I'll definitely specify that we're applying for DIC benefits and make sure SSA understands these are VA service-connected benefits when we report them. I'm also going to look into both the ABLE account and the Childhood Disability Benefit options. I had no idea there were so many different programs with different rules! It's a relief to hear from others who've successfully navigated this and been able to receive both benefits. Managing my son's care alone has been overwhelming since my husband passed, so this financial support will make a huge difference.

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dont forget to ask about survivors pension too if your husbands income was low might qualify for that on top of everything else

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Brady. Going through this while grieving is incredibly difficult. I wanted to add that when you meet with the VA benefits counselor, also ask about any state-level veteran survivor benefits that might be available in your area. Some states have additional programs that stack on top of federal benefits. Also, regarding the Childhood Disability Benefit that Kelsey mentioned - this is really important to pursue. Since your son was disabled from birth, he may qualify for disabled adult child benefits on your husband's record, which could potentially be higher than the regular survivor benefit amount. Even with the SSI offset rules, getting the higher base amount could be beneficial. One more tip: if you haven't already, contact your local disability advocacy organization. They often have benefits counselors who can help coordinate between agencies and catch details that might get missed. Many offer free consultations for families in situations like yours. You're doing an amazing job advocating for your son during such a difficult time. Keep that documentation organized like Norah suggested - it really does make a difference when dealing with multiple agencies.

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Hi! As another newcomer to Social Security benefits, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been. I started receiving my payments just a couple of months ago and was completely unaware that holiday adjustments were even a thing! When I first logged into my MySocialSecurity account and saw dates that didn't match what I expected, I immediately thought there was some kind of error. Reading everyone's clear explanations about Veterans Day affecting the November payment and learning that SSA always pays early rather than late for federal holidays has been so reassuring. I had no idea they published payment calendars in advance either - that's going to be a game changer for my budgeting! It's wonderful to find such a welcoming and knowledgeable community where experienced members take the time to help newcomers like us understand these systems. I'm definitely going to start marking federal holidays on my calendar and download that payment schedule. Thank you for asking this question - it's helped so many of us newcomers learn something really important!

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Hi Sasha! Welcome to the community! I'm also really new to receiving Social Security benefits and can completely relate to that initial confusion about payment dates. I just started getting my payments recently and had the exact same reaction when I saw dates that seemed "off" in my MySocialSecurity account - immediately thought something was wrong! This thread has been such a relief and learning experience for me too. I had absolutely no idea about holiday adjustments or that SSA always pays early rather than making recipients wait. The Veterans Day explanation makes so much sense now! I'm definitely going to join everyone in downloading that payment calendar and marking federal holidays so I can anticipate these changes. It's so reassuring to find such a patient and supportive community where newcomers like us can ask questions and get such thorough explanations. Thanks for sharing your experience - it really helps knowing other people are going through the same learning curve!

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Hi everyone! As a newcomer to receiving Social Security benefits, I just wanted to add my thanks to this incredibly informative thread. I'm only about two months into getting my payments and had no idea that holiday adjustments were standard practice! When I first noticed my payment date seemed different than expected in my MySocialSecurity account, I was genuinely worried something had gone wrong with my benefits. Reading through everyone's explanations about Veterans Day affecting the November payment schedule and learning that SSA always pays early rather than late for federal holidays has been so reassuring. I particularly appreciate learning about those advance payment calendars - I had no clue SSA published those! It's going to make budgeting so much easier knowing when to expect early payments throughout the year. This community has been incredibly welcoming and patient with newcomers like me who are still figuring out how all these systems work. I'm definitely going to start marking federal holidays on my calendar and download that payment schedule right away. Thank you all for taking the time to share your knowledge and create such a supportive space for people navigating Social Security!

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Hi Camila! Welcome to the community! I'm also brand new to receiving Social Security benefits and completely understand that initial worry when payment dates don't match what you're expecting. I just started getting my payments recently and had the exact same panic when I first saw a different date in my MySocialSecurity account - immediately thought there was some error with my benefits! This entire thread has been such an education for me too. I had absolutely no idea about holiday adjustments, payment calendars, or any of these important details before reading everyone's helpful explanations. It's so reassuring to learn that SSA consistently pays early rather than making recipients wait when federal holidays interfere with regular schedules. I'm definitely joining you in downloading that payment calendar and marking federal holidays on my calendar so I can anticipate these changes going forward. It's amazing how much less stressful navigating Social Security becomes when you have such a knowledgeable and welcoming community to learn from. Thanks for sharing your experience - it really helps to connect with other newcomers who are going through this same learning process!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Yara. What you're going through is unfortunately very common - the SSA system is complex and they don't do a great job of proactive outreach to eligible survivors. A few additional points that might help: **On retroactive benefits:** When you apply, specifically ask about "protective filing date" - sometimes if you made any inquiry about survivor benefits (even a phone call where you asked questions), that date can be used to extend your retroactive period slightly beyond the standard 6 months. **Documentation to bring:** In addition to what others mentioned, bring your husband's most recent Social Security statement if you have it, and any Form 1099-SSA from his benefits. This will help them calculate your exact benefit amount more quickly. **Local office vs phone:** Definitely go in person if possible. The representatives there have more tools and authority to resolve complex situations. Call ahead to make an appointment - walk-ins can mean very long waits. **One thing to verify:** Make sure to confirm whether your survivor benefit will be reduced for early claiming. Since you're past 60, you might be eligible for an unreduced survivor benefit depending on your full retirement age. The strategy of taking survivor benefits now and switching to your own at 70 is solid if your projected age-70 benefit will be higher. Don't let anyone pressure you into claiming your own benefits early - those delayed retirement credits are valuable! You've got this. It's overwhelming now, but once you get through the application process, you'll have clarity on your situation.

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Thank you so much for this comprehensive advice, Gavin! The "protective filing date" concept is completely new to me - I did call SSA back in February to ask some general questions about survivor benefits, so I'll definitely mention that when I apply. I'm also relieved to hear that going in person is the better approach. I was dreading more phone calls after my experiences so far. I'll call my local office tomorrow to schedule an appointment and start gathering all the documentation you and others have mentioned. One quick question - you mentioned verifying if my survivor benefit will be reduced for early claiming. Since I'm 60 now, would I be getting the full survivor benefit or is there still a reduction at this age? I want to make sure I understand what to expect before I go in. Again, thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed guidance. This community has been incredibly helpful during a really difficult time.

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Yara, I'm so sorry for your loss and the frustration you're experiencing with this process. I went through something very similar when my spouse passed away two years ago, and I want to share what I learned that might help you. First, don't beat yourself up about not knowing - the SSA doesn't exactly advertise these benefits, and grief makes everything harder to process. You're taking action now, which is what matters. Regarding your specific questions: 1. **Retroactive payments:** Yes, pursue those 6 months aggressively. When you apply, ask specifically about any phone inquiries or visits you made to SSA offices since your husband's passing. Sometimes they can use an earlier "protective filing date" if you made any benefit-related contact with them. 2. **The waiting strategy:** That agent gave you excellent advice. This is called "claim and switch" and it's one of the few remaining optimization strategies available. Your survivor benefit doesn't affect your own retirement benefit's growth, so you can collect survivor benefits while your own benefit grows by 8% per year until age 70. 3. **Dual benefits:** Unfortunately, no - you'll receive the higher of the two benefits, not both. But the strategy above maximizes your lifetime income by letting you collect something now while your own benefit reaches its maximum potential. One thing I wish someone had told me: bring EVERYTHING to your appointment. Death certificate, marriage certificate, both Social Security cards, tax returns, any SSA correspondence, even old pay stubs. Having complete documentation prevents delays and follow-up visits. Also, if possible, bring someone with you to the appointment. Having an extra set of ears helps ensure you don't miss anything important, especially when you're dealing with grief and stress. You're going to get through this. The hardest part is behind you - now you're just working through the administrative pieces.

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