Social Security demanding pension letter for WEP while I'm still working - I haven't retired yet!
I'm completely confused by an email I just got from Social Security. I filed for my retirement benefits to start in February 2025 (reached my FRA in October 2024), but I'm still working full-time for the county government and don't plan to retire anytime soon. Now SSA is demanding I provide a 'pension award letter' by next week or they'll apply WEP to my benefits! I clearly marked 'still employed' in at least 3 different sections of my application. I don't HAVE a pension letter because I'm not retired and won't be eligible for my pension until I actually stop working in a few years. Has anyone else dealt with this? Is this normal procedure or did someone mess up my application? I'm planning to call but their phone lines are always jammed.
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Ava Johnson
Unfortunately, this is pretty standard procedure with SSA these days. If you work(ed) for a state government that doesn't participate in Social Security (like Massachusetts), they automatically flag your account for potential WEP even if you haven't retired yet. They're just being proactive - maybe too proactive! You need to call and explain your situation. Ask them to document in your file that you're still employed and haven't started receiving a pension yet.
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ElectricDreamer
•Thanks for the explanation. I didn't realize they'd start the WEP process before I even retire! Do you know if I should get some kind of documentation from my HR department stating I'm still employed and not receiving a pension yet? I'm worried a simple phone call won't be enough.
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Miguel Diaz
This happened to me last year! The key is getting someone at SSA who actually understands how WEP works with current employment. You need to tell them you're still actively employed in a position covered by a non-covered pension system but haven't started receiving pension payments. They should put a note in your record and follow up annually to check your pension status. But call ASAP - if they apply WEP incorrectly, it can take months to fix.
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ElectricDreamer
•Oh no, that sounds stressful! Did you eventually get it resolved? I'm going to try calling first thing tomorrow morning.
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Zainab Ahmed
theyll always assume the worst with WEP and GPO. when I filed they did the same thing and I had to go back and forth for like 2 months. eventually had to get my HR to write a letter saying I was still employed and no pension was being paid. its like they dont even read ur application lol
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Connor Byrne
•Same! My husband is dealing with this exact thing right now. Still working for the city, clearly marked it on his application, and they're still demanding pension info that doesn't exist yet. The whole system is broken.
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Yara Abboud
Just wondering - are you sure your state retirement system doesn't have some partial pension option that triggers while you're still working? My sister works for Florida and thought the same thing but turns out she was eligible for a partial pension at 25 years even while still employed. Might be worth checking with HR?
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ElectricDreamer
•That's an interesting thought! I'm pretty sure we don't have anything like that in our system, but I'll definitely double-check with HR. I've been here 18 years, so I wouldn't be eligible for any early benefits anyway.
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PixelPioneer
You need to get this resolved quickly. Here's what to do: 1. Call your state retirement system and request a formal letter stating you are ACTIVELY EMPLOYED and NOT receiving pension payments 2. Contact SSA with this documentation (don't just call - you need a paper trail) 3. Request that they add a note to your file that you're subject to annual WEP/GPO review after retirement WEP can reduce your Social Security by up to $558 per month in 2025 if applied incorrectly, so this is worth taking seriously. Make sure everything is documented properly.
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ElectricDreamer
•Thank you for the detailed steps! I didn't realize WEP could reduce my benefit by that much - definitely motivates me to get this resolved ASAP.
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Keisha Williams
I've been trying to reach SSA about a similar issue for 3 weeks with no luck. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me a ton of frustration and the agent was able to fix my WEP flag since I'm still working for the state too. They just needed to put a special code in my file.
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Connor Byrne
•Does this actually work? I've been trying to get through to someone at Social Security for DAYS about my husband's application.
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Keisha Williams
•Yes, it worked for me! I was skeptical too but was desperate after trying for weeks. Got connected to a rep who actually knew how to handle the WEP situation with ongoing employment.
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Paolo Rizzo
I just want to throw out there that WEP calculations are INCREDIBLY complicated and most SSA employees don't fully understand them. My advice? When you call, ask specifically to speak with a "Technical Expert" who specializes in WEP/GPO issues. Regular claims representatives often make mistakes with these complex rules. And document EVERYTHING - get names, dates, and confirmation numbers for every conversation.
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ElectricDreamer
•That's great advice, thank you! I'll specifically ask for a Technical Expert when I call. I'm already planning to take detailed notes.
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PixelPioneer
One more thing to be aware of - even after you get this resolved, SSA will likely send you a similar request EVERY YEAR until you actually retire and start receiving your pension. It's part of their ongoing WEP enforcement. Just be prepared to go through this dance annually until you actually retire from your government job. Make sure you keep copies of all documentation.
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Ava Johnson
•This is absolutely correct. I've been dealing with this for 5 years now. Every January like clockwork, I get a letter asking for pension information even though I'm still employed. I just keep a template letter from my HR department that I update annually.
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Zainab Ahmed
WAIT are you sure your state isn't one of those weird ones with mandatory pension contributions even if ur still working??? my coworker in Ohio thought same thing but turns out money was going into account even before full retirement!! check ur paystub for pension deductions!!!
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ElectricDreamer
•Good point! I do have mandatory contributions going to our state retirement system, but I can't access any of that money until I actually retire. I think that's what's causing the confusion with SSA - they see I'm in a pension system but don't realize I'm not drawing benefits yet.
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Miguel Diaz
For anyone hitting this thread with a similar issue - this is a perfect example of why it helps to file for Social Security benefits several months before you actually need them. These bureaucratic issues can take weeks or months to resolve, and you don't want to miss payments while waiting. The WEP/GPO provisions affect hundreds of thousands of public employees and the rules are exceptionally complex.
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ElectricDreamer
•You're right about filing early. I filed 4 months before my intended start date thinking that was plenty of time, but now I'm worried this will delay everything. I'll post an update once I get this resolved to help others in the same situation.
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