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Has your doctor said anything about applying for Compassionate Allowance? My sister's husband had ALS and they fast-tracked some benefits. I don't know if it would help your wife get benefits sooner but maybe worth asking SSA about??
Compassionate Allowance helps expedite SSDI applications for people with certain severe conditions, but it wouldn't affect the age requirements for widow benefits. The original poster already has SSDI, and unfortunately, the rules about survivor benefits age requirements are pretty strict (age 60, or 50 if disabled).
One thing no one mentioned - if your daughter qualifies for SSI, she might be eligible for subsidized housing which could help with your living situation. There are often long waiting lists but some areas prioritize disabled applicants. Just something to look into while you're working on the SSI application.
I went through getting my dad's SS after his stroke and the whole system is a mess. I had to wait 3 hours at the office and they kept disconnecting me when I called. I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an actual SSA agent in about 10 minutes instead of waiting on hold forever. They have a video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Made dealing with all the representative payee paperwork so much easier when I could actually talk to someone.
Thanks to everyone who's replied! I feel so much better knowing I don't have any immediate responsibilities. I was stressing about this for days thinking I might be neglecting some important duty. Sounds like this is just my husband planning ahead (which is very like him). I appreciate all the information and personal experiences shared here.
You're welcome! It's actually commendable that both of you are thinking about these things in advance. Many families find themselves in crisis when someone suddenly becomes unable to manage their benefits, with no plans in place. Having this designation already filed with SSA will make things much smoother if it ever becomes necessary.
also be careful bout how much money u can make on SS. I think its like $22,500 for 2025 before they take some away if ur under your full retirement age.
You're referring to the Social Security earnings test, which is actually $22,320 for 2025 if you're under Full Retirement Age (FRA). But since the original poster mentioned they're 66, they might already be at their FRA, in which case there is no earnings limit and they can earn any amount without reduction in benefits. The earnings test only applies to work income though, not unemployment benefits.
Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I'm going to: 1) Call my state unemployment office to confirm their specific rules, 2) Use that Claimyr service to reach Social Security without waiting hours, and 3) Continue job searching while making sure I report everything correctly. It sounds like I should be able to keep receiving unemployment until my Social Security payments actually begin as long as I've reported everything properly. I'll update this thread once I get official answers from both offices in case it helps someone else in the future!
Just want to add that while you're waiting to reach age 62, it might be worth exploring if you qualify for the Medicare Savings Program if your family income is limited. This program can help pay Medicare premiums for your husband, which could free up some monthly income. Requirements vary by state, but it's worth checking into. Also, make sure your husband is receiving all the benefits he's entitled to. Sometimes people on SSDI don't realize they might also qualify for SSI if their SSDI payment is low enough and they meet the resource limits.
I hadn't thought about the Medicare Savings Program! My husband does have Medicare, and the premium definitely takes a chunk out of his monthly check. We'll look into that right away. I don't think he'd qualify for SSI though - his SSDI is about $1,850 monthly which is probably too high for SSI, right?
You're correct - at $1,850/month SSDI, your husband wouldn't qualify for SSI as that exceeds the federal benefit rate. However, definitely check out the Medicare Savings Program (MSP) options. Depending on your total family income and resources, you might qualify for one of the MSP levels that could pay his Part B premium ($174.70 in 2023), which would put that money back in your pocket each month. Also, when your children age out of their benefits, that will be a significant reduction in household income. Start planning for that transition now, especially if your 16-year-old will be heading to college.
Thanks everyone for all this helpful information! I'm going to sit down with my parents and go through all these options. Sounds like the key points are: 1) Survivor benefits are up to 100% of deceased spouse's amount, not 50% like spousal benefits, 2) Dad should consider delaying his claim to maximize mom's potential survivor benefit, and 3) Mom needs to be careful about when she claims survivor benefits to avoid unnecessary reductions. I'll definitely check out that Claimyr service too if we need to speak with SSA directly. This community has been so helpful!
You've got it exactly right. One last thing to consider - your mother might want to take her spousal benefit at her FRA (50% of your father's) while he's alive, then switch to the survivor benefit (100% of his) if he passes away. The two benefits are completely separate, and this strategy allows her to maximize her benefits throughout retirement. Best of luck to your family!
DON'T FORGET that if ur mom has earned ANY social security on her own record, she should ask SSA about that too. Even with limited work history she might qualify for SOMETHING on her own record and that could affect the math of when to claim!!! The whole thing is SOOOOO confusing and the SSA people sometimes give wrong info!!
this happened to my friend and she went to her congressman's office for help!! they have caseworkers who deal with SS problems and they sorted it out in like 2 weeks! try that maybe??
Why are you trying to take someone's Social Security check??? That's terrible! Those benefits are protected for a reason - people need them to survive. Your ex worked for those benefits! I don't care what the court says, going after someone's SS check is just wrong.
Well maybe he can't afford to pay you AND survive himself! Did you think of that? SS barely covers basic needs for most people. There's got to be another way besides taking someone's retirement.
so does anyone know if a CRBA form FS-240 is better than having naturalization papers?? my cousin has both (born in mexico, parents got citizenship when he was 4) and doesnt know which to use when he applies next month
The FS-240 (Consular Report of Birth Abroad) would establish that your cousin was a US citizen at birth through his parents, while naturalization papers show citizenship was granted later. For SSA purposes, either document is acceptable proof of citizenship, but the FS-240 might simplify things by showing citizenship from birth. I'd recommend bringing both documents to be safe.
Congrats on getting approved! When do you get your first payment? I'm just starting to research all this stuff and the payment timing is confusing me.
Thanks! My first payment will be deposited on the 3rd Wednesday of next month (my birth date is on the 15th, so I fall in that payment group). The payment schedule depends on your birth date: if you were born on the 1st-10th, you get paid on the 2nd Wednesday; 11th-20th, it's the 3rd Wednesday; and 21st-31st, it's the 4th Wednesday. Hope that helps!
my condolences on your loss. i lost my wife 2 years ago and had the EXACT same confusion!! the ssa website is SO BAD lol. they really need to update it to show survivor info but they just dont have that feature at all. but dont worry about it! your entitled to survivor benifits regardless of what the website shows.
One more thing to keep in mind - it's generally advisable to speak with an SSA representative before you make any claiming decisions regarding survivor benefits. The optimal claiming strategy often involves taking survivor benefits at one age and your own retirement benefits at a different age, depending on your specific circumstances. For example, if your own retirement benefit at age 70 would be higher than your survivor benefit, you might take reduced survivor benefits at 60 and then switch to your own benefit at 70. Or if your survivor benefit would be higher, you might take your own reduced retirement benefit at 62 and switch to survivors at your FRA. The SSA representatives won't volunteer this information unless you specifically ask about these strategies.
Esmeralda Gómez
Just went thru this with my retirement filing! I worked all of 2023 but it wasnt on my record when I filed in January 2024. Was so frustrating trying to reach someone at Social Security to make sure it would be included. Spent 3 days calling and never got through!!! So sick of the waiting game with SSA.
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Klaus Schmidt
•I had the same frustrating experience trying to reach someone at SSA! Wasted so much time on hold only to get disconnected. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an agent in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Totally worth it to skip the hold time nightmare. The agent I spoke with confirmed that my recent earnings would be included in my calculation once they processed into the system.
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KylieRose
To address your follow-up question about whether the recalculation is truly automatic: yes, it is supposed to happen automatically through their system, but as others have mentioned, it's always good practice to follow up. One tip I'd suggest: when you file your application, make a note in your calendar for about 6 months later to check on the status of this recalculation. By that time, your 2024 earnings should be processed in their system (especially if you file your taxes promptly in early 2025). Also, keep documentation of your 2024 earnings handy - not just your final W-2, but also your last paystubs of the year. If you need to follow up with SSA, having this documentation readily available will make the process much smoother.
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Aaliyah Jackson
•This is excellent advice. I'll definitely set a reminder to follow up and keep all my documentation organized. It seems like being proactive is the best approach when dealing with SSA. Thank you so much for your help!
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