PA UC board review appeal resulted in vacate & remand order - what happens next?
Hey everyone, just received notification about my board review appeal with PA unemployment. After waiting nearly 7 weeks, they issued what's called a 'vacate & remand order' on my case. I've been searching online but can't figure out what exactly this means for my claim. I was disqualified initially because my employer claimed I quit voluntarily, but I was actually laid off due to business restructuring. Does anyone know if this vacate & remand is good news? What happens next? Do I need to attend another hearing or submit new evidence? I'm so confused about the next steps and really need my benefits to start soon since I've been without income for over 3 months now.
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Yuki Tanaka
This is actually GOOD news for you! A vacate and remand order means the UC Board of Review found some kind of error in how your case was handled originally, so they're sending it back to the referee for a new decision. Basically, they're saying 'this wasn't decided correctly, try again.' The original decision is vacated (meaning canceled) and your case gets a fresh review. You'll likely get scheduled for another hearing. Make sure to prepare any evidence showing you were laid off due to restructuring - emails, termination letter, anything official from HR would be helpful.
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CaptainAwesome
•Thank you so much! That's a huge relief. Do you know roughly how long before they schedule the new hearing? And will I receive notification by mail or through the portal?
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Esmeralda Gómez
congrats! i got one of these last summer and ended up getting approved after the new hearing. took about 3 weeks to get the hearing notice in the mail
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CaptainAwesome
•That's encouraging to hear! Did you have to submit any new evidence or was it just a rehearing of the same information?
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Klaus Schmidt
Yes, this is definitely a positive development. The Board recognized something was wrong with how your case was handled. It could be procedural, like not giving you proper notice of the hearing, or substantive, like the referee misapplied the law regarding business restructuring layoffs vs. voluntary quits. What you need to do now: 1. Wait for a notice scheduling a new hearing (usually 3-4 weeks) 2. Prepare ALL evidence showing you were laid off (not quit) 3. If your employer will be there, be ready to counter their claims 4. Consider bringing a witness who knows about the restructuring The notice will explain exactly what issues will be addressed at the new hearing, so read it carefully when it arrives.
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CaptainAwesome
•This is super helpful, thank you! I do have some emails from my manager mentioning the restructuring that I didn't submit before. I'll make sure to have those ready this time.
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Aisha Patel
I went thru something sort of similar last year and let me tell u, the wait times are INSANE!!! I got my vacate order in February and didnt get a new hearing until MAY!! And then after the hearing it was another 4 weeks before i got a decision!! The whole unemployment system is ridiculous. Make sure u keep filing your weekly claims even while ur waiting otherwise if u win they wont pay u for weeks u didnt file!!
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CaptainAwesome
•Oh no, I hope mine doesn't take that long! I've been filing weekly claims but it's getting harder to keep up with bills. Thanks for the warning and advice about continuing to file.
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LilMama23
If you're waiting for a new hearing and struggling to get through to anyone at UC to ask questions, I suggest trying Claimyr. It helped me actually get through to a representative when I had questions about my remanded case. The website is claimyr.com and they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2 that shows how it works. I was skeptical but it actually got me connected to PA UC within about 30 minutes instead of spending days redialing.
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CaptainAwesome
•I hadn't heard of this before. I'll check it out! I've been trying to get through for days with no luck.
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Dmitri Volkov
just wondering what happened at ur initial hearing? did ur employer show up? what evidence did they have that u supposedly quit?
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CaptainAwesome
•My former employer did attend and claimed I had voluntarily resigned because I expressed concerns about the direction of the company during a team meeting. I had emails showing the actual layoff notice, but the referee seemed to focus more on my previous comments. I think that's partly why it got remanded.
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Gabrielle Dubois
I think its important to understand the difference betweem vacate and remand vs just a remand. Vacate means the previous decision is completely thrown out. Remand means they're sending it back down. So a vacate and remand is the best possible outcome from the Board short of them just reversing and approving your benefits outright. It means you get a clean slate at the next hearing. Make sure you have all your evidence organized chronologically and bring at LEAST 3 copies of everything (one for you, one for the referee, one for employer). And don't be afraid to object if your employer brings up things that aren't relevant to the separation!
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CaptainAwesome
•Thank you for explaining the difference! That makes me feel even better about my chances. I'll definitely bring multiple copies of everything - that's a great tip.
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Aisha Patel
Does anyone else think it's RIDICULOUS that we have to jump thru all these hoops just to get benefits we PAID INTO?? Like why do we have to prove anything to these people?? My taxes paid for this!!
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Dmitri Volkov
•i mean technically its the employers who pay into UC not us but i get what ur saying. its super frustrating how they make everything so difficult
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Klaus Schmidt
•Actually in PA, both employers and employees pay into the UC fund. Employers pay more, but employees do have UC taxes withheld from their paychecks. That's why it's called 'insurance' - we all contribute to the system.
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Eric Thomas
•@Klaus Schmidt facts pa taxes you on everything they can
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Yuki Tanaka
Just to update on timing expectations: current PA UC hearing schedules are taking about 4-5 weeks from remand order to hearing date. Once you get your notice, prepare thoroughly. This hearing is completely fresh - the referee won't have seen your previous evidence, so you need to submit everything again. Make sure you read the hearing notice carefully as it will tell you the exact issue being decided (likely whether your separation was due to a voluntary quit or a layoff). If you haven't received the hearing notice within 6 weeks, call UC to check on status. The remand order should have a docket number you can reference.
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CaptainAwesome
•This is really helpful to set my expectations. I'll start gathering all my evidence now so I'm fully prepared. I appreciate everyone's help and will update once I get my hearing scheduled!
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Emma Taylor
I'm so glad to see everyone being so helpful here! As someone who went through a similar situation about 18 months ago, I just wanted to add that when you do get your new hearing scheduled, try to submit your evidence to the referee ahead of time if possible. In PA, you can usually fax or email documents to the hearing office a few days before your hearing date - this gives the referee time to review everything beforehand and makes the hearing go much smoother. Also, if you have any witnesses (like coworkers who can testify about the restructuring), make sure they know the hearing date well in advance. Good luck with everything - it sounds like you have a really strong case!
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