PA UC sent contradicting determinations - one says I quit, then got 'determination vacated' message - confused!

Determination' vacated is actually good news! It means the previous (determination the one denying your) benefits has been set aside or cancelled. Essentially, the UC examiner likely found something wrong with the initial determination or received new information that made them reconsider. You should receive a new determination soon, which could go either way but at least gives you another chance. No need to appeal the vacated determination since'it s no longer valid. But definitely watch your dashboard and mailbox for the new determinationletter.

this happned to me 2!! got denied then vacated then approved all in like 10 days... weird but worked out. just wait for next letter

CLASSIC PA UNEMPLOYMENT NONSENSE!!! They do this all the time - send contradicting information and expect us to figure it out! I had THREE different determinations on my claim last year, each saying something different, and I couldn't get anyone on the phone to explain. The system is BROKEN. They probably realized they messed up on your first determination, but instead of just fixing it or calling you, they send these confusing automated notices. Good luck getting through on the phone tomorrow - you'll probably be calling for DAYS before anyone picks up.

Since your employer claimed you quit when you were actually let go due to restructuring, the UC examiner probably started looking into this discrepancy. When there are conflicting statements between claimant and employer, UC will investigate further. The vacated determination means they're essentially hitting reset on your case. Here's what you should do: 1. Document everything about your separation (emails, termination letter, etc.) 2. Continue filing your weekly certifications while you wait 3. Watch for a new determination letter (check both mail and your dashboard) 4. Be prepared to provide additional information if requested The fact that they vacated the determination rather than just denying your appeal suggests someone already spotted an issue with your employer's statement.

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When I got laid off from my job at the warehouse they also said I quit! My first determination was denied but I appealed it right away. Never got a vacated message though, just went straight to hearing. Make sure you're still doing your work searches even during all this confusion. I almost got disqualified because I wasn't keeping up with them while waiting for my appeal. You need 3 work search activities every week no matter what's happening with your claim status.

Just to clarify a bit more about the 'determination vacated' status - this usually happens in one of three scenarios: 1. The examiner found new information that contradicts the initial finding 2. There was a procedural error in how your claim was processed 3. Your employer may have withdrawn or modified their statement This is actually a positive development in most cases. About 80% of vacated determinations I've seen are eventually decided in the claimant's favor, especially when there's documentary evidence showing the employer's statement was incorrect. The new determination should typically be issued within 7-14 days, though it can sometimes take longer during busy periods.

Idk if this helps but my cousin had the same thing happen and it turns out somebody at unemployment made a mistake inputting info. They fixed it and she got approved after the vacated thing. Good luck!!

I went through something very similar last month! Got denied initially because my employer claimed I was fired for misconduct (totally false), then about a week later received the "determination vacated" message. I was panicking thinking it meant something bad, but it turned out to be the best thing that could have happened. The new determination came about 10 days later and I was approved for benefits. The examiner told me when I called that they had received conflicting information and needed to review the case more thoroughly. Since you have documentation showing you were laid off due to restructuring, that should work strongly in your favor. Keep filing your weekly claims and definitely keep that termination letter handy - you'll probably need to provide it again when they issue the new determination. The waiting is nerve-wracking but sounds like you're in a good position!

I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - got denied initially because my employer falsely claimed I abandoned my job, then received the "determination vacated" notice three days later. Like others have mentioned, it seems like this happens when the UC office realizes there's conflicting information that needs further review. From what I've read in other forums, the key is having solid documentation of your actual separation circumstances. Since you mentioned you were let go due to restructuring, make sure you have any emails, meeting notes, or official communications that reference the restructuring - not just the termination letter. I've been told by a UC advocate that when they vacate a determination, they're essentially starting fresh with a more thorough review process. The fact that your employer's story doesn't match reality should work in your favor. Stay patient and keep filing those weekly claims!

I just went through this exact scenario about 6 weeks ago! Got the initial denial because my former employer claimed I was terminated for performance issues (completely untrue - I was laid off when they closed our department). Then I got that confusing "determination vacated" message and had no clue what it meant. Turns out it was the best thing that could have happened - the new determination came about 2 weeks later and I was approved for full benefits. From what the examiner explained when I finally got through on the phone, they vacate determinations when they find significant discrepancies between what the employer reported and other evidence in your file. Since you have that termination letter mentioning restructuring, that's probably what triggered them to take another look. My advice: keep filing your weekly certifications, document everything related to your separation, and try not to stress too much. The vacated determination is actually a good sign that they're giving your case a proper review instead of just rubber-stamping the employer's version. You should hear back with a new determination soon!

I'm a former UC examiner and can shed some light on this process. When a determination is "vacated," it means the original decision has been officially nullified - essentially erased from your record. This typically happens when new information comes to light that contradicts the initial finding, or when there's been a procedural error in processing your claim. In your case, having documentation that shows you were laid off due to restructuring likely triggered a quality review that revealed the employer's statement was inaccurate. The good news is that vacated determinations are usually followed by more thorough investigations, and when there's clear documentation like yours, the outcome is generally favorable for the claimant. Continue filing your weekly certifications and keep all your separation documents handy - you'll likely need to provide them again when the new examiner reviews your case. The new determination should come within 10-15 business days in most cases.

I'm going through something very similar right now! Got denied last week because my employer claimed I was terminated for cause (which is completely false - I was laid off when they eliminated my position), and just yesterday I received the "determination vacated" message. Like you, I had no idea what it meant and was worried it was bad news. Reading through all these responses is giving me so much relief! It sounds like this is actually a positive development and means they're taking a closer look at the conflicting information. I also have my layoff notice and some emails from HR about the position elimination, so hopefully that will help my case too. The waiting and uncertainty is definitely the worst part. Thanks for posting about this - it's so helpful to know others have gone through the same confusing process and come out okay on the other side!

I'm a PA unemployment advocate and wanted to add some additional context about the "determination vacated" process. What you're experiencing is actually part of PA UC's quality assurance system working correctly. When there are significant discrepancies between employer statements and claimant information (like your employer claiming you quit vs. your documentation showing restructuring), the case gets flagged for secondary review. The vacated determination means they're essentially pressing reset and having a more senior examiner take a fresh look at all the evidence. This is much better than having to go through the formal appeal process, which can take months. Since you have that termination letter specifically mentioning restructuring, you're in a strong position. Just make sure you also gather any other supporting documents - company-wide emails about layoffs, organizational charts showing department changes, anything that shows the "restructuring" was real and affected multiple employees. The new determination typically comes faster than the initial one since it's prioritized. Keep filing those weekly certifications and stay patient - this process usually works out in the claimant's favor when there's solid documentation like yours.

I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation right now! Got my initial denial two weeks ago because my employer falsely claimed I resigned (I was actually laid off when they downsized the entire customer service department), and then got that confusing "determination vacated" message just a few days ago. Like everyone else here, I had no clue what it meant and was panicking that it made things worse somehow. But reading through all these responses is such a relief - it sounds like this is actually the system working correctly when there are conflicting stories. I have my official layoff letter and some documentation about the department restructuring, so I'm feeling more hopeful now. It's incredible how common this seems to be and how employers apparently lie about the circumstances so frequently. Thanks for starting this thread - it's been more helpful than anything I could find on the official PA UC website! Keeping my fingers crossed that we all get positive new determinations soon.

I'm currently going through this exact same situation! Got denied initially because my employer claimed I was fired for attendance issues (totally false - I was laid off when they eliminated my entire shift), and then received the "determination vacated" message three days later. Like everyone else here, I was completely confused and worried it meant something bad. But reading all these responses is so reassuring! It's amazing how common this seems to be and how the system actually catches these discrepancies. I have my official layoff notice and some emails from management about the shift elimination, so I'm feeling much more confident now. The waiting is definitely stressful, but it sounds like most people here got positive outcomes within 2-3 weeks. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread has been more helpful than hours of trying to navigate the official UC website! Hopefully we all get our new determinations soon with better results.

I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Got denied last week because my employer falsely claimed I was terminated for poor performance (completely untrue - I was laid off when they closed our satellite office), and yesterday I received that confusing "determination vacated" message. I was so worried it meant my case was getting worse somehow, but reading through all these responses is incredibly reassuring! It's shocking how many employers apparently lie about separation circumstances, but it sounds like PA UC's system actually catches these discrepancies during quality reviews. I have my official layoff letter and some internal memos about the office closure, so I'm feeling much more hopeful now. The uncertainty is definitely nerve-wracking, but based on everyone's experiences here, it seems like the "determination vacated" status is actually a positive development. Thanks for posting this question - this thread has been way more helpful than anything I could find on the official UC website! Keeping my fingers crossed that we all get favorable new determinations soon.