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Sophie Hernandez

PA UC Overpayment Appeal - Fighting $14k repayment demand after employer lied about misconduct

I'm helping my buddy with a massive PA unemployment mess right now and could use some advice from anyone who's been through this. She collected about $19k in benefits back in 2025 after her restaurant closed for renovations, but now UC is demanding everything back! Her appeal hearing is scheduled for next Thursday. Here's what happened: When she filed initially, her employer falsely claimed she was fired for no-call/no-show when she actually worked her scheduled shifts right up until the renovation closure. They even got the last day worked wrong on their paperwork. Now PA UC says she wasn't eligible for ANY of those benefits and wants repayment. Unfortunately, she doesn't have copies of her old schedules or paystubs (learned that lesson the hard way). The only proof she has is being tagged in the restaurant's social media posts AFTER the date they claimed she was fired. I'm worried about what happens if she loses this appeal. Will they garnish wages? Take tax refunds? How aggressive is PA about collecting these overpayments? Has anyone successfully won an appeal against a lying employer without solid documentation? Any tips for the phone hearing would be greatly appreciated!

Daniela Rossi

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omg I had the EXACT same thing happen to me last year!!! My employer said I was fired for being late repeatedly but I was actually laid off with everyone else when they downsized. My overpayment was around $11k and I almost had a panic attack when I got that notice!!

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Did you end up winning your appeal? What kind of evidence did you have to show?

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Ryan Kim

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I've helped several people through UC appeals, and while it's challenging without documentation, it's not impossible. For the hearing, your friend should: 1. Create a detailed timeline of her employment including specific dates/shifts before the closure 2. Prepare to explain why she doesn't have documentation (many people don't keep paystubs) 3. Print out those social media posts - that's actually decent evidence that contradicts their firing claim 4. If any coworkers can verify she was working those days, get written statements As for what happens if she loses - PA UC can: - Intercept state/federal tax refunds - Set up a payment plan (they're usually reasonable about this) - Place a lien on property (rare for smaller amounts) - Offset future UC benefits They don't garnish wages in PA for UC overpayments, which is good news. Also, depending on the circumstances, she might qualify for a waiver if repayment would cause financial hardship.

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Thank you so much for this detailed response! The social media posts are definitely our strongest evidence. Do you know if text messages with coworkers from that time period would help? She has some conversations about shift coverage that clearly show she was still employed.

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Zoe Walker

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just make sure she doesn't get tax refunds for a while. my cousin had this happen and they took his refunds for like 3 years until it was paid off. but thats it they cant really do much else

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Elijah Brown

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This isn't entirely accurate. While they do intercept tax refunds, PA UC can also place liens on property and offset future unemployment benefits. Each case is handled differently based on the amount and circumstances.

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I successfully appealed an overpayment of $7,800 last year after my employer claimed I quit voluntarily when I was actually laid off due to lack of work. The key to winning was preparation and staying calm during the hearing. Bring those social media posts - that's concrete evidence that contradicts their termination date. Also, does she have any witnesses? Former coworkers who can testify she was working those days? Text messages about work schedules? Bank deposits showing regular paychecks until closure? One thing that helped me was using the Claimyr service (claimyr.com) to actually speak with a UC rep before my hearing to understand exactly what documentation would be most helpful. They have a video demo of how it works: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2. I spent days getting busy signals before discovering this, and the rep gave me crucial advice about what to emphasize in my hearing. Remember, the burden of proof is on the employer to prove misconduct. If they're claiming no-call/no-show, they should have documentation of scheduled shifts she missed, disciplinary actions, etc. If they can't produce those, it strengthens her case.

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Thank you for sharing your success story! That gives me hope. I'll check out that service - we definitely need to talk to someone who knows the system before the hearing. You're right about the burden of proof... I wonder if we can use that angle since they're the ones claiming misconduct.

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Natalie Chen

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST US!!! I went through HELL with PA UC last year when they falsely accused me of fraud. Employers LIE ALL THE TIME and UC just believes them!!! I fought my case for 8 MONTHS before winning. Here's what your friend needs to know: 1. RECORD THE HEARING!!! PA is a two-party consent state but UC hearings can be recorded if you tell them at the start 2. Don't let the employer interrupt - if they do, point it out immediately 3. Ask for ALL evidence they have against her 4. Question EVERYTHING the employer claims And FYI - if she loses, they'll take tax refunds FOREVER until it's paid, plus 15% interest in some cases!!! They can also take lottery winnings and put liens on property. The UC system is BROKEN and designed to help employers, not workers!!!!!

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Daniela Rossi

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omg i didnt know they charge interest?? that seems so unfair when its the employers who lie!!

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I had something similar happen. My employer said I quit but I was laid off. Won my appeal though!

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That's encouraging! Was there anything specific that helped you win your case?

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just be super honest and bring whatever proof you have. the judge could tell my boss was lying

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Elijah Brown

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From an inside perspective (I used to work in HR), if your friend was truly still employed on the dates in question, the employer will have a hard time proving their case. Those social media posts are excellent evidence. UC referees look for factual inconsistencies, and if the employer claimed one termination date but can be proven wrong by their own social media, that severely damages their credibility for the entire case. Regarding potential repayment, PA UC typically offers these options if she loses: 1. Monthly payment plan (can be as low as $50/month depending on financial situation) 2. Tax refund intercept (both state and federal) 3. Future benefit offset (if she ever collects UC again) Wage garnishment is NOT allowed for UC overpayments in Pennsylvania, unlike some other states. Also, after 10 years, the debt can become uncollectible if no payment activity occurs, though this isn't something to rely on. Make sure she requests a "financial hardship waiver" if she loses. Many people don't know these exist, but UC can waive repayment if it would cause severe financial difficulty.

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Thank you for the insider perspective! I didn't know about the financial hardship waiver option. That's definitely something to consider if the appeal doesn't go our way. She's a single mom so repaying $19k would be devastating.

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Daniela Rossi

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So I actually did win my appeal! What worked for me was I had some text messages with my supervisor about my last day and a coworker who testified for me. Also I wrote down a timeline of everything that happened with as many specific dates as I could remember. The judge said my testimony was more consistent than my employers. They kept changing their story about why I was fired and it made them look bad. Just tell your friend to be super prepared and answer questions honestly and directly.

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This is so helpful! She does have some text messages about shifts, so we'll definitely organize those. Did you have a lawyer or did you represent yourself?

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Daniela Rossi

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did it myself! they make the process pretty simple and the judge asked me questions directly. just be organized and you'll be fine!

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Zoe Walker

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my uncle works at the unemployment office lol and he says most employers don't even show up to these hearings. if they don't show up ur friend automaticly wins

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Ryan Kim

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This isn't accurate. If the employer doesn't show up, it doesn't guarantee an automatic win. The referee will still review the case file and make a determination based on available evidence. While it certainly helps if the employer isn't there to present their side, your friend still needs to be prepared to explain why she was eligible for benefits.

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