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I've been trying to get through to NYS Department of Labor for weeks about a similar eligibility question and their phone lines are impossible. If your cousin needs to talk to someone directly about her specific situation, I recently used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me connected to an agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI showing how it works. Saved me hours of calling and getting disconnected.
How much does something like that cost? Seems like you shouldn't have to pay extra just to talk to the people at NYS Department of Labor
Just wanted to add that even if someone isn't eligible for regular unemployment, there might be other programs available. NYS Department of Labor has different types of assistance and the eligibility rules can vary. Also worth checking if any of the freelance clients incorrectly classified her as 1099 when she should have been W-2 - that happens more than people think and can affect benefit eligibility.
Interesting point about misclassification. How would she know if she was classified wrong? Some of her contracts did seem pretty much like regular employment.
The IRS has a test for worker classification - if the company controlled how, when, and where she worked, provided equipment/training, and the work was integral to their business, she might have been misclassified. There's Form SS-8 you can file to get an official determination. Also look at whether she had set hours, couldn't work for competitors, or was treated like other employees. If she was misclassified, those earnings could count toward her unemployment eligibility.
Just wanted to add my experience - I had forfeit days last summer and was able to get them reduced by calling the 209 number. The key was having all my paperwork ready and being really clear about what happened. I got through on my third try (called early morning around 8:15am) and the rep was actually pretty helpful. She looked at my account and saw it was an honest mistake with reporting part-time work, so she reduced my forfeit from 6 weeks to 2 weeks right there. Definitely worth trying the phone first before going the formal appeal route, especially if it's just a reporting error.
That's really encouraging to hear! I think mine might be a similar situation - just confusion about how to report some part-time hours correctly. 8:15am is a good tip for timing, I'll definitely try calling first thing in the morning. Did you have to provide any specific documents over the phone, or were they able to see everything they needed in your account already?
That gives me a lot of hope! My situation sounds very similar - I think I messed up reporting some part-time work hours and got hit with forfeit days as a result. Did they ask you to explain the situation in detail, or were they able to see the issue pretty quickly once they pulled up your account? I'm trying to prepare for what to expect when I call.
I'm dealing with a similar forfeit penalty situation right now and this thread has been super helpful! One thing I wanted to add - when you do call (whether through the regular 209 number or using a service like Claimyr), make sure you have your determination notice number handy. The reps can pull up your case much faster if you give them that reference number right away. Also, I've found that being polite but persistent really helps - some reps are more willing to help than others, so if the first person you talk to seems unhelpful, it's worth trying again with someone else. The early morning call time tip sounds smart too - I'm going to try that approach tomorrow!
Great advice about having the determination notice number ready! I'm new to dealing with unemployment issues and hadn't thought about that detail. Quick question - when you mention trying again with a different rep if the first one isn't helpful, do you mean hanging up and calling back, or is there a way to ask to speak to someone else while you're already on the call? I'm planning to try calling tomorrow morning too and want to make sure I'm prepared with the right approach. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Most common reasons for overpayment are not reporting work income correctly or being disqualified after the fact (like if they find out you quit instead of being laid off). If you're being honest on your weekly claims and have proper documentation you should be okay. The key is keeping good records of everything just in case.
This is really helpful advice. I've been keeping screenshots of my weekly claim submissions, but should I also be keeping records of all my job search activities in a separate document? How detailed do those records need to be exactly?
Yes, definitely keep detailed job search records! I learned this the hard way. You should document company name, position title, date applied, method of contact (online, email, phone), and any follow-up actions. I use a simple spreadsheet with columns for each of these. Also save copies of job postings if possible since they sometimes get removed. The NYS DOL website says you need at least 3 job contacts per week, but I do 4-5 just to be safe. Better to have too much documentation than not enough if they ever audit your claim.
I totally understand your anxiety about this! I was in the same boat a few months ago, constantly worrying about getting hit with an overpayment notice. What really helped me was setting up a simple system to track everything. I created a basic spreadsheet with tabs for my weekly claims (screenshots and dates), job search activities, and any work/income I report. For the job search piece, I log way more than the minimum 3 contacts per week - usually 5-6 just to be safe. Each entry includes company name, position, application date, method (Indeed, company website, etc.), and any responses. It takes maybe 10 minutes per week but gives me huge peace of mind. Also, I check my payment history on my.ny.gov every few weeks to make sure there are no flags or issues. The system does show pending determinations or problems if there are any. As long as you're being honest and thorough with your reporting, you should be fine. The horror stories usually involve people who didn't report work income or made genuine mistakes with the confusing rules.
This is such great advice! I'm definitely going to set up a spreadsheet like you described. I've been doing the bare minimum with job search documentation and now I realize that's probably not smart. Quick question - when you say you screenshot your weekly claims, do you screenshot the confirmation page after submitting or the actual claim form before submitting? I want to make sure I'm capturing the right information in case I ever need to prove what I reported.
@f108e199be8a Thank you so much for this detailed breakdown! Your spreadsheet system sounds perfect - I'm going to set that up this weekend. I've been so stressed about this whole thing, but having a proper tracking system will definitely help me sleep better at night. One more question if you don't mind - do you also keep copies of the actual job postings you apply to, or is just recording the company/position details enough? I've heard mixed things about whether they actually check that level of detail during audits.
UPDATE: For anyone who finds this thread in the future - my claim was approved after exactly 18 days from when I first applied. I received a text notification and an email directing me to check my account. The funds were on my KeyBank card the next day after approval. I did have to keep certifying weekly while waiting for approval.
Congratulations on getting approved! This is such a helpful thread for people going through this process. I'm currently in week 2 of waiting after receiving my KeyBank card, so reading about your 18-day timeline gives me hope. Did you have to submit any additional documentation during the review period, or was it pretty straightforward once you submitted your initial application? Also wondering if you got the full backpay for the weeks you certified while waiting for approval?
NightOwl42
This is such an incredibly useful thread! I'm brand new to this community and dealing with NY unemployment for the first time. The amount of specific, actionable information everyone shared here is amazing - from the direct 518-402-0205 number to the email backup option and even strategic timing tips. It's so refreshing to see people actually help each other navigate these bureaucratic nightmares instead of just complaining about them. Gabriel, thanks for updating us that the 518 number worked - that 25 minute hold time gives me hope! I'm saving all these contact methods in case I ever need them. This thread should honestly be pinned as a resource for anyone dealing with NY unemployment hearing issues. Really appreciate this community already!
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Connor Byrne
•Absolutely agree! As another newcomer to this community, I'm blown away by how helpful everyone has been. This thread is like a masterclass in actually solving NY unemployment problems instead of just venting about them. The combination of multiple contact methods (phone, email, fax, mail) plus the practical tips like calling at 8 AM makes this feel like a real survival guide. It's so encouraging to see Gabriel's success story - proves that with the right information and persistence, you can actually get through to these agencies. I'm definitely saving this entire thread as my NY unemployment emergency reference. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences!
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Zoe Kyriakidou
This thread is absolutely incredible! As someone who just joined this community and is currently navigating NY unemployment issues for the first time, I can't believe how much valuable information everyone has shared here. The fact that we now have multiple confirmed contact methods - the 518-402-0205 direct line, the UIABOfficialMailbox@labor.ny.gov email, plus the fax and mailing options - makes this like the ultimate resource guide. Gabriel's success story with the 25-minute hold time gives me so much hope that these systems are actually reachable if you have the right numbers and timing. I'm bookmarking this entire thread and adding all these contacts to my phone immediately. It's amazing how much time and stress we can save each other by sharing these specific, actionable tips instead of just complaining about the broken system. This is exactly why I joined this community - real people helping real people solve actual problems. Thank you to everyone who contributed their knowledge and experiences!
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