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I'm having this exact same PIN problem too! Filed my initial claim about 5 weeks ago and never received anything in the mail with a PIN. I've been stressing about my weekly certification for days thinking I missed something obvious. Reading through everyone's experiences here is such a huge relief - clearly this is a widespread issue with their mail system. I'm definitely going to try calling right at 8 AM tomorrow with all my info ready (SSN, claimant ID, filing date, etc.) and also check my NY.gov account documents section first like so many people suggested. It's really frustrating that something so essential for our weekly benefits can just disappear in the mail with no backup notification, but at least now I know exactly what steps to take. Thanks to everyone for sharing their solutions - this community has been incredibly helpful for navigating this confusing system!
@Oliver Becker I m'in the exact same boat! Filed about 4 weeks ago and have been panicking about this mysterious PIN for my weekly certification. It s'honestly such a relief to see how many people are dealing with this - I was convinced I had somehow screwed up my application. I m'going to follow everyone s'game plan: check the NY.gov documents section first thing in the morning, then call at exactly 8 AM with all my verification info ready. The fact that so many people have successfully gotten their PIN over the phone makes me feel way more confident about resolving this. It s'crazy that such a critical piece of information can just vanish in the mail, but at least we ve'got a solid strategy now thanks to everyone sharing their experiences!
I'm dealing with this exact same PIN issue right now! Filed my claim about 2 weeks ago and never got any PIN letter in the mail. I've been putting off my weekly certification because I had no idea what this 4-digit number was supposed to be - honestly thought it might be the last 4 digits of my SSN or something. This whole thread has been incredibly helpful and reassuring to read. It's clear this PIN mail delivery problem is way more common than it should be. I'm definitely going to try the 8 AM calling strategy tomorrow with all my documents ready, and I'll also check my NY.gov account thoroughly first since so many people found their PIN info hiding in there. Really appreciate everyone sharing their step-by-step experiences - makes this whole bureaucratic mess feel much less overwhelming when you know other people have successfully navigated it!
@Juan Moreno I m'so glad you found this thread helpful! I was in the exact same situation a few weeks ago - filed my claim and then panicked when I saw that PIN requirement for weekly certification. I actually thought it might be my SSN digits too at first! The good news is that calling at 8 AM really does work - I got through in about 20 minutes and the agent was super helpful once I had all my verification info ready. Definitely check your NY.gov account documents section first though, because I ve'seen several people in this thread find their PIN there. Don t'stress too much about the timing either - from what others have shared, missing a certification due to PIN issues like this usually doesn t'result in benefit loss if you can explain the situation. You ve'got a solid plan and plenty of people here have proven it works!
Just want to add that when you do report your Instacart earnings, make sure you're tracking your expenses too (gas, car maintenance, etc.) for tax purposes. The income you report to NYS DOL should be your gross earnings before expenses, but you'll want those expense records when tax time comes around since you'll likely be filing as a 1099 contractor. Also, keep detailed records of what you earned each week - screenshots of your Instacart earnings, dates, amounts. This will make your weekly certifications much easier and protect you if there are ever any questions later.
This is really helpful advice about keeping detailed records! I hadn't thought about the tax implications yet. Quick question - when you say report gross earnings to DOL, does that mean before Instacart takes their service fee, or after? Like if a customer paid $50 for groceries and Instacart paid me $35 after their cut, do I report $50 or $35?
I've been reading through all these responses and they're super helpful! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now where I can access my NY.gov ID but it's not properly linked to my unemployment account. When I try to log in, it takes me to a page that says "no claims found" even though I know I have an active claim. Has anyone else run into this specific linking issue? I'm wondering if I should call the technical support number or if there's a way to fix the linkage online. Really don't want to sit on hold for hours if there's a simpler solution!
I actually had that exact same "no claims found" issue! It's usually a linkage problem between your NY.gov ID and your unemployment account. Don't try to fix it online - you'll just end up in circles. Call the technical support number (800-833-3000) and specifically tell them your NY.gov ID isn't linked to your existing unemployment claim. They can see both accounts on their end and merge them properly. It took about 5 minutes once I got through to someone. If you can't get through on the phone, that Claimyr service that others mentioned worked for me too. The key is explaining that you have access to your NY.gov ID but it's not connected to your claim - that's different from a complete lockout situation.
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread - this is exactly the kind of information that should be stickied or made into a guide somewhere! The NY unemployment system is so unnecessarily complicated with all the different login methods and account linking issues. I'm saving this whole thread for future reference. A few quick tips to add based on what I've learned from dealing with government websites: 1. Always use the same browser when accessing government sites - they can be finicky with cookies and sessions 2. Never use incognito/private browsing mode for important accounts because you lose all the auto-save benefits 3. Screenshot or write down your account details immediately after creating any government account - don't rely on memory! 4. If you move, update your address with ALL your government accounts separately - they don't talk to each other The system really needs to be simplified but at least we can help each other navigate the mess. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences and solutions!
This is such valuable information, thank you for compiling these tips! I'm new to the NY unemployment system and honestly feeling pretty overwhelmed by all the different account requirements. Your point about using the same browser is something I never would have thought of - I usually switch between my phone and laptop depending on where I am. I'm definitely going to screenshot everything from now on after reading about all these lockout horror stories. Quick question - when you say "update your address with ALL your government accounts separately," does that include things like the IRS and Social Security too, or are you mainly talking about NY state accounts? I just want to make sure I'm covering all my bases since I recently moved and don't want to run into issues later!
Congrats on getting your payment so quickly! That's really encouraging to hear. I'm on day 8 of waiting for my first payment after being laid off from my retail job. I also did the ID.me verification right away after reading all the advice here, and I've been certifying weekly even though my claim is still pending. One thing I wanted to add for others - I called the customer service line yesterday (took 45 minutes to get through) and the agent told me that even though my claim shows "pending" online, it's actually moving through the system normally. She said sometimes the online status doesn't update in real-time, so don't panic if it still says pending after a week or two. The agent was able to see more detailed status info on her end. Fingers crossed I get mine soon too! Thanks for updating us with your timeline.
That's really helpful to know about the online status not updating in real-time! I was getting worried because mine still shows "pending" even though it's been almost two weeks. Might try calling tomorrow if I don't see any movement. Did the agent give you any sense of how much longer you might have to wait, or was it just "it's processing normally"?
I'm currently on day 16 of waiting for my first payment after being laid off from my marketing job. Did the ID.me verification immediately and have been certifying weekly, but still showing "pending" status online. What I've learned from calling twice is that March applications are taking a bit longer than usual due to a system update they did in early March. The first agent told me 2-3 weeks, the second one (called yesterday) said they're seeing most March claims process around the 18-21 day mark now. One tip that might help others - when you call, ask them to check if your employer has responded to their inquiry yet. In my case, they sent the standard separation verification to my former employer on day 3, but the employer has 10 business days to respond. The agent said once they get that response (assuming no disputes), payments usually go out within 2-3 business days. So it's not just about completing your part of the application - there's a whole back-and-forth with employers that can add time. Just wanted to share this since I didn't realize how much the employer response timing could impact things!
This is really valuable information about the employer response process! I had no idea that was happening in the background. I'm on day 19 now and still waiting, so knowing that March applications are taking longer helps explain things. Did the agent mention anything about what happens if the employer doesn't respond within those 10 business days? I'm worried my former company might just ignore it since they laid off like 30 people at once and probably have a ton of these requests to deal with.
Emma Wilson
Having gone through this process recently myself, I can confirm what others have said about the formula being based on your highest quarter rather than a percentage. One thing I'd add is that timing can really matter when you file - your base period is typically the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file your claim. So if you just got laid off last week and file now, they'll look at your wages from early 2024 through late 2024. Since you worked 8 months at $18/hour, you should definitely have enough wages to qualify. I'd recommend filing as soon as possible since there's usually a one-week waiting period before benefits start, and you can't get benefits for weeks before you actually file your claim. The online application on labor.ny.gov is pretty straightforward once you have your employment history and wage info ready.
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Oliver Brown
•This is really helpful information about the timing aspect! I hadn't realized that the base period calculation could vary depending on when you actually file your claim. Since I just got laid off last week, would it be better to wait a bit to see if waiting might put me into a more favorable base period, or should I definitely file right away like you suggested? I'm worried about missing out on benefits while I'm trying to time it perfectly, but also want to make sure I'm maximizing what I can get since I need to cover rent and bills.
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FireflyDreams
•I'd definitely recommend filing right away rather than trying to time it for a better base period. The risk of losing weeks of potential benefits while waiting usually isn't worth it, especially since you have bills to cover. Plus, with 8 months of work history at $18/hour, you should have a solid base period already established. The one-week waiting period means you're already going to be without income for a bit, so don't delay further. You can always check the NYS DOL calculator first to estimate what your benefits would be with your current base period, but in most cases filing immediately is the smart move. Better to have some income coming in while job hunting than to gamble on maybe getting a slightly higher amount later.
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Xan Dae
I just went through this same process a couple months ago after getting laid off from my restaurant job. The NYS Department of Labor calculation definitely isn't straightforward at first! What really helped me understand it was looking at my actual quarterly wage statements - you can usually find these on your pay stubs or request them from HR. Since you worked 8 months at $18/hour, you likely have wages in at least 2-3 quarters which should meet the minimum requirements. One tip: when you file your claim, make sure all your employer information is exactly right (business name, address, etc.) because any errors can delay your processing. Also keep track of your job search activities from day one since you'll need to report them weekly to maintain eligibility. The waiting can be stressful but having that weekly benefit amount definitely helps bridge the gap while you're looking for your next opportunity.
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