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I've been through this process and want to emphasize how important it is to treat your job search documentation like a business record. I keep a detailed Excel spreadsheet with columns for date, company, position, application method, contact person, and follow-up actions. What really saved me during my audit was having screenshots of job postings and confirmation emails. Also, don't overlook networking activities - I counted LinkedIn messaging with recruiters, attending virtual career workshops, and even cold-calling companies about potential openings. The NYS DOL wants to see 3 meaningful work search activities per week, so quality matters more than quantity. Make sure each activity shows you're actively pursuing employment opportunities in your field or related areas.
This is exactly the kind of detailed approach I needed to hear about! I've been keeping basic records but your Excel spreadsheet idea with all those columns sounds much more comprehensive. The point about screenshots of job postings is really smart - I hadn't thought about how those disappear. Quick question: when you say "meaningful" work search activities, did the NYS DOL give you any specific guidance on what makes an activity count as meaningful versus just going through the motions?
@Olivia Evans This is incredibly helpful! I m'also curious about the meaningful "activities" requirement. From what I ve'gathered, they want to see that you re'not just randomly applying to jobs that don t'match your skills or location. I ve'been focusing on positions that align with my experience and making sure to customize cover letters when possible. Have you found that they care more about the quality of applications or the variety of search methods you use? I m'trying to balance online applications with more direct outreach but want to make sure I m'hitting the right mix for their requirements.
From my experience dealing with NYS DOL requirements, the documentation is absolutely critical. I keep a detailed log in Google Sheets that I can access from anywhere - date, company name, position title, application method, contact info, and any follow-up actions. What really helped me was also saving PDF copies of job postings since they disappear, and I screenshot my application confirmations. Don't forget that career counseling sessions, skills assessments, and even updating your resume on job boards count as valid work search activities. The 3 activities per week requirement is real, and they do random audits. I also learned that if you need to speak with someone at NYS DOL about specific requirements, calling early morning (around 8 AM) gives you the best chance of getting through without waiting hours on hold. Better to be over-prepared than risk losing benefits - I've seen people have to pay everything back because they couldn't prove their job search efforts.
I'm in the same boat as you - my benefits are ending in about 6 weeks and I've been dreading this moment. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful though! I had absolutely no idea about the 599 training program. I've been working in hospitality management for years but honestly the whole industry feels unstable right now. The idea of using unemployment for retraining while getting extended benefits sounds like it could be exactly what I need to make a career change I've been putting off. Going to start researching approved programs tomorrow - hoping there are some business or project management courses available. Also definitely going to start those other assistance applications this week. It's frustrating how complicated the system is but at least there are still some safety nets if you know how to find them. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - makes this whole situation feel way less scary!
Hey Natasha! Hospitality management experience actually translates really well to project management - you already have all the coordination, multitasking, and crisis management skills that are core to PM work. When I was researching the 599 programs, I saw several business administration and project management certificate programs at SUNY schools that were on the approved list. The key thing I learned is to apply for the 599 pre-approval BEFORE your regular benefits run out - there's usually a gap between when your regular UI ends and when the training benefits kick in, so timing matters. Also, since you have 6 weeks left, you're in a better position than most of us were! Use that time to really research which programs align with your career goals and have good job placement rates. The hospitality industry's instability might actually work in your favor for the 599 application - they want to see that retraining is necessary for employment in your area. Start gathering your employment history docs now because the application process requires a lot of paperwork. You've got this! 🙌
I've been following this thread closely since I'm about to hit the same wall in a few weeks. Want to add a couple things that might help based on my research so far: First, for anyone looking into the 599 training program, I found that SUNY schools tend to have the most approved programs and they're usually cheaper than private institutions. The pre-approval process requires showing that your previous occupation is in decline - gather any industry reports or news articles about layoffs in your field to strengthen your case. Second, I've been working with a career counselor at my local One-Stop Career Center (they're free!) who helped me understand that the 599 program isn't just about getting extended benefits - it's actually a solid investment in your future earning potential. She showed me data on how people who retrain during unemployment often end up in better positions than before. Also, for those mentioning gig work + partial benefits - make sure you understand the reporting requirements. You have to report ALL earnings, even cash tips, and they calculate it weekly not monthly. I almost got in trouble because I didn't realize Venmo payments from driving for Uber counted as reportable income. The system definitely sucks but there are still paths forward if you stay persistent and know where to look!
I'm in a very similar situation and this discussion has been incredibly helpful! I was laid off from my job at a nonprofit two weeks ago and have been putting off filing for unemployment because I have a small rental unit that brings in $1,200/month. I was so worried they'd consider it "work" or that it would disqualify me completely. Reading everyone's experiences about rental income being treated as passive income has really eased my anxiety. It makes perfect sense that there's a distinction between earned income from employment and passive rental income. I'm planning to file my claim tomorrow and will definitely be upfront about the rental income from the start. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - it's so much more helpful than trying to decipher the confusing official language on the NYS Department of Labor website!
@Heather Tyson You re'absolutely right about the official NYS Department of Labor language being confusing! I was in the exact same boat a few weeks ago - putting off filing because I was terrified my rental income would somehow disqualify me. This thread has been such a game-changer for understanding how these situations actually work. Your $1,200/month is right in line with what so many others here have dealt with successfully. The fact that multiple people have gone through this process without issues really shows that rental income truly is treated as passive income. You re'smart to file tomorrow rather than waiting longer - every week you delay is potentially lost benefits. Just be honest about the rental income on your weekly certifications and you should be all set. Keep us posted on how your application goes - your experience will help the next person who finds this thread!
I just wanted to add my experience to this incredibly helpful thread! I've been collecting unemployment benefits in NY for about 4 months now while receiving rental income from a small apartment building I own ($2,200/month total). The NYS Department of Labor has been completely fine with it - no issues whatsoever. Like everyone else has mentioned, the key is reporting it accurately on your weekly certifications under "other income." What really helped me was calling them early in the process to clarify exactly how to report it. The rep explained that as long as you're not actively managing properties as your primary business (like a full-time property manager), rental income is considered passive and won't affect your weekly benefit amount. I've been reporting it consistently for months and my benefits have never been reduced. The peace of mind from being completely transparent from day one has been worth it. To anyone still hesitating - don't wait any longer, just file and be honest about your rental income!
This is such a relief to see that you got it resolved! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - missed certifying two weeks ago because I was in the hospital and just realized my claim shows "break in claim" status. Your experience gives me hope that I can get this fixed quickly too. Did the agent ask for any specific documentation about your illness, or was mentioning the doctor's visit enough? I have my hospital discharge papers if that would help my case.
@Jacob Smithson I m'really glad you found this thread! I went through something very similar when my dad was in the ICU for emergency surgery and I completely spaced on certifying - I was basically living at the hospital for a week. Your discharge papers are going to be perfect documentation. When I finally got through to an agent, she told me that hospitalization is actually one of the easiest cases for them to approve because it s'such clear, legitimate documentation of why someone couldn t'certify. The agent was really compassionate about it too. Just have those discharge papers ready with the exact dates, and maybe be prepared to briefly explain that you were physically unable to access the online system while hospitalized. I really hope you re'feeling better, and I m'confident you ll'be able to get those missed weeks backdated without too much trouble!
@Jacob Smithson I m'so sorry to hear about your hospitalization! I hope you re'recovering well. Hospital discharge papers are definitely excellent documentation for your situation. I actually went through a break in claim issue myself recently though (not due to hospitalization and) the process was much smoother once I had proper documentation. Being hospitalized is probably one of the most legitimate reasons for missing certification that agents see. When you call, I d'suggest leading with I "was hospitalized and have discharge documentation -" this immediately lets them know you have a valid medical reason. The agents are generally very understanding about genuine medical emergencies. If you re'still having trouble getting through on the phone, that Claimyr service mentioned earlier in this thread really does seem to help people connect faster. Best wishes for your recovery and getting this resolved quickly!
I'm dealing with a break in claim situation too and this whole thread has been incredibly helpful! I missed certifying two weeks ago because I was caring for my sick elderly mother and completely forgot. Reading about everyone's experiences gives me hope that I can get this resolved. Does anyone know if caring for a family member during a medical emergency would qualify for backdating, or is it mainly just for your own medical issues? I have some documentation from her doctor visits if that would help. Planning to try calling tomorrow but wanted to see if anyone has been in a similar caregiving situation.
@Emily Thompson Caring for a sick family member can definitely qualify for backdating, especially if it was an emergency situation! I actually had a similar experience when my grandmother had a stroke and I was her primary caregiver for several weeks. The NYSDOL agent was understanding when I explained the situation and provided documentation from her medical appointments. Your mother s'doctor visit records should help establish that there was a legitimate medical emergency requiring your care. When you call, emphasize that it was an unexpected caregiving emergency that prevented you from accessing the certification system. Family caregiving situations are considered good "cause under" NY unemployment guidelines, particularly when you have medical documentation. The key is being honest about the timeline and having those doctor visit records ready. Good luck getting through to an agent!
@Emily Thompson I went through a very similar situation when my father had a heart attack and I had to rush to be his caregiver while my mom was out of town. I completely forgot about certifying that week because I was basically living at the hospital and then at his house helping with recovery. When I finally got through to an agent a few weeks later, she was really understanding about the family caregiving emergency. The doctor s'visit documentation from your mother should definitely help - I had hospital records and follow-up appointment info that the agent accepted. She told me that unexpected family medical emergencies are considered legitimate reasons for missing certification, especially when you can show it was an urgent situation requiring immediate caregiving. Make sure to emphasize that it was an emergency situation and that you were the primary caregiver during that time. Having those medical records ready will really strengthen your case. Hope you can get through quickly and get those weeks backdated!
Evelyn Kelly
I'm in a similar boat - just finished my PFL last month and my company announced "restructuring" that eliminated several positions including mine. From what I've learned, you should definitely file immediately since there's no waiting period between PFL and UI. Make sure to get everything in writing from your employer about the position elimination - I had to request a formal letter stating my job was eliminated due to business reasons, not performance. Also, when you file online, there's a specific section where you can indicate you were on family leave, so be upfront about it. The process was actually smoother than I expected once I got all the documentation together. Hang in there!
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Natasha Petrov
•This is really valuable advice, especially about getting the formal letter from your employer! I'm curious - did you face any challenges with the work search requirements immediately after filing, or were you able to start looking for jobs right away? Also, how long did it take from filing to receiving your first payment? I'm trying to plan my finances during this transition period.
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GamerGirl99
•Great advice about the formal letter! I just went through something similar and can answer about the work search requirements - they don't expect you to start immediately since you're transitioning from leave. You typically have the first week to get registered with the job search system. As for timing, mine took about 10 days from filing to first payment, but that was because I had all my documentation ready. The key is having that employer letter stating the elimination was due to restructuring, not anything on your end. It really does make the process much smoother when everything is clearly documented.
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AstroAdventurer
I just want to add that you should also keep records of any communication with your employer about the position elimination, including emails or meeting notes. When I filed after my PFL ended due to a similar situation, having a paper trail really helped speed up the approval process. The NYS DOL may ask for additional documentation to verify that the job loss wasn't voluntary, so having everything organized beforehand saves time. Also, don't stress too much about the transition - the system is designed to handle these situations where people go from PFL directly to unemployment due to job elimination. You've earned those benefits through your work history, and this is exactly what the safety net is for.
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