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Emma Davis

Why are box 1, 3, and 5 identical on only one of my five W2s for 2023 tax return?

I'm in the middle of entering my 2023 W2s into tax software and noticed something weird. After entering my fifth and final W2, my federal refund suddenly dropped to almost nothing! When I looked closer, I realized that on this particular W2, boxes 1 (Wages), 3 (Social Security wages), and 5 (Medicare wages) all have the exact same amount. This doesn't appear on any of my other four W2s. Is this normal? Does it indicate an error? I work similar jobs in the same industry and I'm pretty sure I filled out all my W4s the same way (minimal allowances hoping for bigger refunds... though I'm not even sure if that logic makes sense). When the amounts in those boxes are different on my other W2s but identical on this one, it seems suspicious - especially since it tanked my refund. Could my employer have made a mistake? Should I contact them about it? Any insight would be really appreciated! I need to file soon and want to make sure everything is correct.

CosmicCaptain

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That's definitely something to look into. Here's what those boxes actually mean: Box 1: Taxable wages (after deductions like 401k, health insurance, etc.) Box 3: Social Security wages (capped at $160,200 for 2023) Box 5: Medicare wages (no cap) Usually Box 1 would be lower than Boxes 3 and 5 if you have pre-tax deductions. When they're identical, it typically means either you had no pre-tax deductions OR you hit the Social Security wage cap with this employer. The fact that your refund dropped after entering this W2 suggests this employer might not have withheld enough taxes. Check your tax rate from this employer compared to the others - they might have used an incorrect withholding table.

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Malik Johnson

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But wouldn't hitting the SS wage cap mean that Box 3 would be LOWER than Box 5, not equal to it? Since Medicare doesn't have a cap but Social Security does?

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CosmicCaptain

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You're absolutely right - if someone hit the SS wage cap, Box 3 would typically be lower than Box 5, not equal to it. The SS wage cap for 2023 was $160,200, and anything above that wouldn't appear in Box 3 but would still show in Box 5. In this case, since all three boxes are identical, the most likely explanation is that this employer didn't process any pre-tax deductions. Pre-tax deductions typically reduce Box 1 but not Boxes 3 and 5. Things like 401k contributions, health insurance premiums, and FSA contributions would normally make Box 1 lower than the other boxes.

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Diego Rojas

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My guess is you maxed out your Social Security contributions with your other jobs before getting to this last W2. The Social Security wage cap for 2023 was $160,200. If you earned more than that across all jobs, you'd stop paying Social Security tax. Check if your combined Box 3 amounts from all W2s adds up to around that amount.

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But wouldn't that make Box 3 ZERO on the last W2, not equal to Boxes 1 and 5? I'm confused.

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Diego Rojas

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You're right, that's a good point. If OP had already maxed out their Social Security contributions at previous employers, Box 3 on the final W2 would likely be zero or at least lower than Boxes 1 and 5, not equal to them. What's more likely happening is that this employer didn't process any pre-tax deductions (like retirement contributions, health insurance premiums, etc.). When there are no pre-tax deductions, all three boxes often show the same amount. The drop in the expected refund suggests this employer might have also under-withheld taxes compared to the other employers.

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Did you work as a contractor for this last job? If it's a 1099 mistakenly reported as a W2, that might explain the refund drop, as you'd be paying both employer and employee portions of FICA taxes.

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Zara Ahmed

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But a 1099 wouldn't have values in boxes 3 and 5 at all, right? Those are W2-specific boxes for employee wages.

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AstroAlpha

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This is actually a pretty common issue! When boxes 1, 3, and 5 are identical, it usually means one of two things happened with this employer: 1. **No pre-tax deductions were processed** - Things like 401(k) contributions, health insurance premiums, or FSA contributions normally reduce Box 1 but not boxes 3 and 5. If this employer didn't offer these benefits or you didn't enroll, all three boxes would show your full gross wages. 2. **Different payroll system setup** - Some smaller employers or temporary agencies use simplified payroll systems that don't handle pre-tax deductions the same way. The refund drop is likely because this employer didn't withhold enough federal income tax relative to your actual tax liability. You should check Box 2 (Federal income tax withheld) on this W2 compared to your other employers - I bet the withholding rate is lower. Before contacting your employer, double-check: Did you sign up for any pre-tax benefits with this employer? If not, then the identical boxes are actually correct. If you did have pre-tax deductions that aren't reflected, then definitely reach out to payroll for a corrected W-2. The good news is this doesn't necessarily mean there's an error - it might just reflect different benefit elections at different jobs.

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