Social security boxes 3 and 5 empty on W2 form - should I be concerned?
So I just got my W2 from my employer and noticed that boxes 3 and 5 are completely empty. No amounts filled in at all. I was going through my tax documents getting ready to file and this seemed really weird. I've never seen this before on previous W2s. The other boxes like my wages in box 1 and federal income tax withheld in box 2 have amounts in them. I started to fill out my tax return and got a question asking about my social security wages and Medicare wages, which I think should be in those boxes. Now I'm confused about what to put in there. Does this mean my employer didn't withhold social security or Medicare? Is this a mistake on the W2? Should I contact my employer about this or is there some situation where it's normal for these boxes to be empty?
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Mason Kaczka
This isn't necessarily wrong, but it does need some looking into. Empty boxes 3 and 5 on your W2 typically means one of a few things: First, you might work for a state or local government employer that has their own pension system and doesn't participate in Social Security. Many teachers, firefighters, police officers, and other public employees are exempt from Social Security taxes if they're covered by a qualifying public retirement system. Second, you could be a student working at your college/university. There's an exemption for students employed by their school where they don't pay FICA taxes on those wages. Third, you might be a non-resident alien on certain visa types that are exempt from these taxes. If none of these apply to you, then yes, you should definitely contact your employer's payroll department as this could be an error on your W2. Employers are required to withhold and pay these taxes for most employees.
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Sophia Russo
•Wait, I didn't know some jobs don't pay into social security! If you don't pay into it during your career, does that mean you don't get any social security benefits when you retire? And what about medicare? Would you just not have medicare coverage when you're older?
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Mason Kaczka
•That's correct, if you work in a position that doesn't contribute to Social Security, you may have reduced benefits when you retire. This is called the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and Government Pension Offset (GPO). Essentially, if you receive a pension from work not covered by Social Security, your SS benefits might be reduced. As for Medicare, eligibility is typically tied to Social Security eligibility, but there are other ways to qualify. Most people who work in jobs not covered by Social Security still pay Medicare taxes (box 5 would show amounts but box 3 would be empty). If both are empty, it's likely one of those specific situations I mentioned, or possibly an error.
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Evelyn Xu
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Dominic Green
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•Does it work with other tax forms too? I have some confusing 1099s this year that I could use help understanding.
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Mia Roberts
Does anyone know what happens if your employer made a mistake and should have been withholding social security but didn't? My boxes 3 and 5 are empty too but I work for a regular private company, not government or education.
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The Boss
•If it's a mistake, your employer has to pay both their portion AND your portion of the social security and medicare taxes that should have been withheld. They can't collect the missed withholding from you after the fact. They'll need to issue a corrected W2 (W-2c) showing the proper amounts. You should definitely contact your payroll department ASAP. This could cause problems not just for your taxes but for your future social security benefits since those quarters wouldn't be counted as work credits.
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Mia Roberts
•Thanks for this info! I just checked my pay stubs and there's definitely no FICA withholding happening. I'll call HR tomorrow morning. It's a small company so I'm guessing it might just be a payroll setup error. Should I wait to file my taxes until I get this corrected?
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The Boss
•Yes, definitely wait until you get a corrected W-2c before filing. Filing with the incorrect W2 could cause problems later. If your employer doesn't seem responsive, you can contact the IRS directly about the issue. They can reach out to the employer on your behalf. Make sure to keep documentation of your request to your employer too, just in case there are any questions later about the timing. And check your pay stubs going forward to make sure they start withholding properly.
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Evan Kalinowski
For anyone else with this issue - check your previous years' W2s if you've been with the same employer. If boxes 3 and 5 had amounts in previous years but are suddenly empty this year, that's a red flag that something changed or there's an error.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
•Thanks for this advice! I just dug up my W2 from last year with the same employer and boxes 3 and 5 definitely had numbers in them. So something definitely changed or there's an error. I'm going to bring both forms when I talk to our HR department.
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Victoria Charity
•Also worth noting that some religious orders and churches can elect out of social security. My sister is a minister and has always had empty boxes 3 and 5 because her church opted out years ago.
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Jackie Martinez
Just want to add another perspective here - I'm a CPA and see this situation fairly regularly. Before you panic, definitely check if you're in any of these categories that Mason mentioned. But also look at your pay stub from your last paycheck of the year. Sometimes there are timing differences where the final payroll processing might not have been completed when the W2 was generated. Also, if you're dealing with multiple employers during the year, sometimes one might be exempt while another isn't, which can create confusion when you're comparing different W2s. One more thing to check - if you had any pre-tax deductions like a 401k, health insurance, or flexible spending account, those reduce your social security wages but not necessarily your regular wages in box 1. So boxes 1 and 3 might legitimately be different amounts, but box 3 should never be completely empty unless you're in one of those exempt categories. If none of these situations apply to you, definitely get that corrected W2 before filing!
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