My wages, medicare wages and social security wages are all the same amount on my W-2 - is this right?
Just got my W-2 for this tax season and noticed something weird. Looking at boxes 1, 3, and 5 (wages, social security wages, and medicare wages), they're all showing the exact same dollar amount: $47,850. Is this normal? I always thought there might be differences between these boxes. Also, I'm really confused about my federal income tax withholding. Back in 2021, my employer withheld around $3,000 for federal taxes. But now my 2023 W-2 is showing they only withheld like $700! I haven't made any changes to my W-4, and I'm actually working MORE hours at the same company since 2021. Shouldn't my withholding be higher, not lower? I'm worried I'm going to end up owing a bunch when I file this year. Anyone know what might be going on here?
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Aisha Hussain
It's actually perfectly normal for boxes 1, 3, and 5 to show the same amount in many cases! This typically happens when you don't have any pre-tax deductions like 401(k) contributions, health insurance premiums, or HSA contributions. The concerning part is the dramatic drop in your federal withholding. That's a huge decrease from $3,000 to $700 without any changes on your part. There are a few possibilities: 1) Your employer might have implemented the newer W-4 form's calculations differently, 2) There could have been a payroll system error, or 3) Your employer might have mistakenly changed your withholding status. I'd recommend checking your most recent paystubs to confirm the W-2 is accurate, and if so, speak with your HR or payroll department immediately. You should also consider submitting a new W-4 form specifically requesting additional withholding to avoid a surprise tax bill. The sooner you address this, the more time you have to spread any needed additional withholding across your remaining paychecks this year.
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GalacticGladiator
•Thanks for the info about the wage boxes being the same! I don't have a 401k with this job so that makes sense. For the withholding issue - would filing a new W-4 fix things going forward only, or could it somehow help with my 2023 return that I need to file soon? Also, is there a way to estimate how much I might owe based on my total income?
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Aisha Hussain
•Filing a new W-4 will only affect future withholding, not what's already happened for 2023. For your upcoming tax return, you'll need to prepare for potentially owing taxes based on that $700 withholding. You can estimate your tax liability using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website or any tax software. Enter your total income, filing status, and other tax situations to get a rough idea of what you might owe. If you discover you'll owe more than you can pay at once, the IRS offers payment plans that you can set up when you file.
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Ethan Brown
Hey there! I had a similar issue last year and was totally freaking out about the withholding change. I tried calling the IRS and was on hold forever. Then I found https://taxr.ai which helped me figure out exactly what happened with my withholding. I uploaded my W-2s from both years and it did a side-by-side comparison, highlighting the differences and explaining possible reasons. It turned out my employer had implemented the new W-4 calculations incorrectly! The tool identified exactly which boxes had changed and gave me a report I could take to HR. They fixed it going forward AND helped me understand exactly how much I needed to set aside for my tax payment. Saved me a ton of stress during filing season.
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Yuki Yamamoto
•Does taxr.ai handle state taxes too? I'm having a similar issue but with my state withholding that dropped dramatically.
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Carmen Ruiz
•I'm kinda skeptical about tax tools since I got burned by one last year. How accurate is it with the new tax law changes? And does it actually explain things in normal human language or is it all tax jargon?
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Ethan Brown
•Yes, it absolutely handles state taxes! It breaks down federal and state withholding separately and shows the calculations for both. It's especially helpful for identifying discrepancies between your state and federal withholding rates. The tool uses really clear, plain language explanations - that was actually my favorite part. It translated all the tax code stuff into simple "this is what happened" statements. And it's constantly updated with the latest tax law changes. I was surprised how it flagged some new credit I qualified for that even my accountant friend didn't catch.
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Carmen Ruiz
I was skeptical too but decided to try https://taxr.ai after my post above. Super glad I did! Uploaded my W-2s and it immediately showed that my employer had switched from the old withholding tables to the new W-4 calculation method without telling anyone. The difference was my allowances didn't translate correctly. What I really appreciated was how it created a custom withholding plan showing exactly what to put on my new W-4 to fix the problem. I printed the report, took it to HR, and they immediately saw the issue. They're even doing a payroll audit now to fix it for other employees. Honestly would have been completely lost without it - the IRS calculators were confusing me more!
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Andre Lefebvre
If you need to talk to the IRS about this withholding issue (which you probably should), good luck getting through on the phone. I spent DAYS trying to reach someone about a similar withholding problem last year. After my fifth attempt waiting 2+ hours and getting disconnected, I found https://claimyr.com which is basically a service that waits on hold with the IRS for you and calls you when an agent is actually on the line. There's also a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was totally skeptical it would work, but I was desperate. They got me through to an actual IRS agent in about 45 minutes (while I just went about my day), and the agent confirmed my employer had incorrectly implemented the new withholding calculations. The agent even sent me documentation I could take to HR to prove the error.
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Zoe Dimitriou
•Wait, so is this like paying someone to wait on hold for you? How does that even work? Do they conference call you in or something when a person answers?
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QuantumQuest
•This sounds like BS. The IRS doesn't make special exceptions for third-party services. You're probably just getting bumped ahead of regular people who've been waiting. No way this is legit.
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Andre Lefebvre
•It's exactly like that - they use a system that waits on hold with the IRS, and when a live agent comes on the line, they call your phone and connect you directly to the agent. You literally just pick up and start talking to the IRS. No more sitting around with your phone on speaker for hours. I totally get the skepticism - I felt the same way! They don't bump you ahead in line or anything shady. They're just waiting in the same queue everyone else is, but YOU don't have to be the one listening to that awful hold music. They simply bridge the call to you once someone answers. It's basically outsourcing the hold time.
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QuantumQuest
Ok, I owe everyone an apology. After posting that skeptical comment above, I was still desperate to talk to the IRS about my own withholding issue, so I tried Claimyr despite my doubts. It actually worked exactly as described. I was cooking dinner when my phone rang, and suddenly I was talking to an IRS agent about my withholding problems! The agent confirmed that the "same amount in all wage boxes" is normal for many people, but the withholding drop likely means my employer switched calculation methods. The agent sent me documentation about the 2020 W-4 changes that I showed my employer. Turns out they had applied the new calculations but didn't adjust everyone's withholding status correctly. HR is fixing it for our whole company now. Saved me and my coworkers from a tax nightmare!
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Jamal Anderson
Make sure to check if you have any pre-tax deductions! If the amounts in boxes 1, 3, and 5 are all identical, it typically means you don't have any pre-tax items reducing your taxable wages. Common pre-tax deductions include: - 401(k)/403(b) contributions - Health insurance premiums - HSA/FSA contributions - Dependent care FSA - Commuter benefits If you have ANY of these, your Box 1 (wages) should actually be LOWER than boxes 3 and 5. You might want to check if your benefits are being correctly classified as pre-tax!
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Mei Zhang
•Wait I'm confused. I thought health insurance through my job is always pre-tax? My boxes are all the same too and I definitely pay for health insurance each check. Does this mean my employer messed up?
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Jamal Anderson
•Not all employer health insurance is automatically pre-tax. Some smaller employers offer health insurance but handle it as post-tax, meaning you pay with already-taxed dollars. This is less common but does happen. If you're certain your health insurance should be pre-tax, you should definitely speak with your payroll department. It could be an error that's causing you to pay more in taxes than you should. Bring a recent paystub that shows the health insurance deduction when you talk to them, and ask specifically if those premiums are being treated as pre-tax deductions.
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Liam McGuire
Has anyone else noticed that their employer seems to have messed up withholding for a bunch of employees around the same time? The whole new W-4 form that removed allowances has caused chaos at so many companies. My entire department had withholding issues and we all ended up owing last year!
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Amara Eze
•Yes! My company completely botched this too. Our HR finally sent an email admitting they had configuration issues with the payroll system after the W-4 form changed. They said something about the old allowances system not translating correctly to the new system. Almost everyone in my office owed money last April.
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