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Whatever you do, DON'T fall for any scams promising to get your refund faster. Stick to official IRS channels only!
This exact thing happened to me last year! Here's what worked for me: First, definitely check the "Where's My Refund" tool like Samantha mentioned - it might give you specific info about what went wrong. Then when you call the IRS (and yes, the wait times are brutal), have these ready: - Your SSN - The exact routing number you entered (even though it's wrong) - The correct routing number for your account - Your tax return confirmation number if you have it The agent will likely need to issue a "refund trace" which can take 6-8 weeks like Megan mentioned. But the good news is you WILL get your money eventually! The IRS doesn't just keep it. Stay patient and document everything - dates you called, reference numbers, etc. Good luck Connor! š¤
Pro tip: get your congressman involved. Worked for me after my 3rd letter
google ur state rep + 'constituent services' - they usually have a form
Ugh, I feel your pain! I'm on my third 60-day letter for 2022 too. What's really annoying is they keep asking for the same documents I already sent. I started keeping copies of everything with delivery confirmations just to prove I sent stuff. The whole system feels broken honestly. Have you tried getting your account transcript online? Sometimes that shows what specific issue they're actually reviewing.
Yes! The transcript is so helpful - it actually shows the specific codes for what they're reviewing. Mine showed they were stuck on my EITC verification even though I'd already sent proof of my kid's school records. At least now I know exactly what department to bug when I call š
One thing no one mentioned - when you're married filing jointly, you get a wider tax bracket than filing single. For example, the 22% bracket starts at a higher amount for MFJ than for single filers. So if you were single making $50k, more of your income might be in the 22% bracket than when you're married filing jointly with $100k combined income. It's one of the benefits of filing jointly!
This is such a great question and the responses here really clarify things! I was making the same mistake of thinking about our individual incomes separately when we file jointly. One thing that helped me understand this better was realizing that when you're married filing jointly, the IRS essentially treats you as one economic unit. So it doesn't matter if one spouse makes $80k and the other makes $20k, or if you both make $50k each - either way, you're working with $100k total household income and using the married filing jointly tax brackets. The progressive system means that even though your marginal rate might be 22% on that $100k combined income, your effective tax rate (the percentage of your total income that actually goes to taxes) will be much lower since the first portions of your income are taxed at 10% and 12%. Thanks for asking this - it's definitely not a dumb question and I'm sure many people have the same confusion!
Exactly! The "one economic unit" concept really drives it home. I was also confused about this when my husband and I first started filing jointly. What really helped me was when someone explained that it's like putting all your money in one big pot first, and THEN applying the tax brackets to that combined amount. So whether I earned $60k and he earned $40k, or we both earned $50k each, the IRS just sees $100k total and taxes it the same way. The effective vs marginal rate distinction is so important too. I used to panic thinking our entire income would be taxed at 22%, but it's only the dollars that fall into that highest bracket. Most of our money is still being taxed at the lower rates of 10% and 12%. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly - this thread has been super educational for understanding how married filing jointly actually works!
Back in 2022, I had an 810 freeze that lasted for 143 days after I filed an amendment. What finally resolved it was discovering that the freeze was related to a mismatch between my reported 1099-R distribution and what the IRS had on file. The distribution code on my 1099-R was coded as a rollover (G), but the issuing financial institution had incorrectly reported it as a regular distribution (1) to the IRS. I contacted the financial institution, had them issue a corrected 1099-R with the proper code, and then faxed that corrected form along with a cover letter to the specific IRS department handling my case. The freeze was released 16 days later. The key was identifying the specific discrepancy rather than just waiting for the IRS to figure it out.
I had almost the identical situation with a 1099-R coding error! In my case, it was a direct rollover that the institution coded as a taxable distribution. The difference was that I never got the 810 code - instead, I received a CP2000 notice about underreported income. Took almost 6 months to resolve completely.
I've been dealing with IRS processing issues for years as a tax professional, and the 810 freeze is particularly frustrating because it's essentially a "black box" - even experienced practitioners struggle to get clear information about resolution timelines. One approach I've seen work (though it's not guaranteed) is requesting your complete account transcript rather than just the return transcript. The account transcript sometimes shows additional transaction codes that can provide clues about what specifically triggered the freeze. Look for any 424, 436, or 922 codes that might indicate the nature of the verification they're seeking. Also, since you mentioned updating your address information, make sure the IRS has your current address in their system independently of your return. Sometimes an 810 freeze won't clear even after other issues are resolved if there's still an address mismatch in their records. You can update this through Form 8822 if needed. The waiting game is unfortunately real with these codes, but having complete information about your account status can at least help you understand what you're waiting for.
This is really valuable advice about requesting the complete account transcript! I never knew there were different types of transcripts that might show additional codes. When you mention the 424, 436, and 922 codes - do these typically appear alongside the 810 freeze or do they show up separately? I'm wondering if I should be looking for a pattern of codes rather than just focusing on the 810 itself. Also, regarding the Form 8822 for address updates - would filing this potentially complicate things further if I'm already dealing with an 810 freeze, or is it generally safe to submit additional forms while waiting for resolution?
Brianna Muhammad
Just wanted to add that if you're just doing simple buy/sell transactions on major exchanges, TurboTax Premium is probably fine by itself. I've been using it for 3 years with my Coinbase and Gemini accounts. The key thing is downloading the transaction history CSV files from each exchange at the end of the year. TurboTax has an import feature that usually works for the major exchanges. Just be careful about the cost basis - sometimes the exchanges don't track it correctly if you've moved coins between platforms. Also, remember that crypto-to-crypto trades are taxable events too! If you traded BTC for ETH, that's a sale of BTC and a purchase of ETH. A lot of people miss this.
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JaylinCharles
ā¢Does TurboTax handle the wash sale rule for crypto? I heard crypto isn't subject to the same 30-day wash sale rule as stocks, but I'm not sure if TurboTax knows that.
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Brianna Muhammad
ā¢You're right that currently crypto isn't subject to the wash sale rule that applies to stocks and securities. TurboTax doesn't automatically flag crypto transactions for wash sales. This means you can sell crypto at a loss and rebuy it immediately to harvest the tax loss, unlike with stocks where you have to wait 30 days. Just be aware there's talk about changing this rule for crypto in the future, so this advantage might not last forever.
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Eloise Kendrick
One thing nobody's mentioned - if you received any staking rewards or interest on your crypto, that's considered ordinary income at the fair market value when you received it. Different from capital gains from selling!
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Lucas Schmidt
ā¢What about mining? I did some ETH mining last year. Is that treated the same as staking?
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Omar Farouk
ā¢Yes, mining is treated similarly to staking for tax purposes. When you mine crypto, it's considered ordinary income at the fair market value of the coins on the day you received them. So if you mined 0.1 ETH when it was worth $2,000, you'd report $200 as ordinary income. Then, if you later sell that mined ETH, you'd have capital gains or losses based on the difference between the sale price and that $2,000 cost basis. The tricky part with mining is tracking the exact date and value for each reward, especially if you were getting small daily payouts. Most mining pools provide CSV exports that can help with this. @Lucas Schmidt - make sure you also account for any mining expenses like electricity and equipment depreciation as business deductions if you re'treating it as a business activity.
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