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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure your client keeps thorough documentation of the 8986 they received and how they handled it. In my experience, these partnership audit adjustments often trigger correspondence or questions later. I recommend creating a detailed memo explaining: 1) When and why they received the 8986 2) The analysis showing why no further forms were required 3) How the adjustments were incorporated in their reporting This isn't just for potential IRS questions - it's also helpful if your client changes tax preparers in the future or if you need to revisit this issue years later. Partnership items have a way of coming back around.
Good point about documentation. How long would you recommend keeping these records? The standard 3 years or longer because it's related to partnerships?
I'd recommend keeping these records for at least 7 years, possibly longer. Partnership items can have extended statute of limitations, especially when there are audit adjustments involved. The statute for partnership items can extend beyond the normal 3-year period in various circumstances. Since this involves an AAR (Administrative Adjustment Request) from an upstream partnership, those adjustments could potentially be subject to review for a longer period. It's always better to err on the side of caution with partnership documentation.
Just wanted to share that we ran into this exact situation last year with a client. A non-BBA LLC received an 8986 showing reduced K-1 income from an AAR filing. We called the IRS Partnership Hotline and confirmed our client did NOT need to issue 8986s to their partners. We just had to make sure the adjustments were properly reflected on the client's tax return for that year. The key factor was exactly what others have mentioned - since there was no imputed underpayment (just income/capital adjustments), there was nothing to push out further.
Did you have to file anything special with the return or attach the 8986 you received? We have a similar situation but I'm not sure how to document it properly.
We attached a copy of the 8986 we received to the return and included a brief statement explaining how the adjustments were incorporated. Nothing fancy - just a note that said "Income and capital adjustments per Form 8986 received from [Partnership Name] dated [Date] have been reflected in the amounts reported on this return." The IRS agent we spoke with said this was sufficient documentation. They mainly want to see that you received the adjustment and properly accounted for it. Keep the original 8986 with your permanent client files too - you'll want that if there are ever any questions down the road.
Just adding a data point - I've used TaxAct for the past 5 years and they've always had this refund transfer fee. It started around $35 if I remember correctly, then went to $39.95, then $44.95, and now apparently $54.95. They keep increasing it every year!
I've noticed the same with TurboTax. Their refund transfer fee was $39.99 last year and jumped to $49.99 this year! Seems like all these companies are jacking up these fees.
This fee creep is so frustrating! I've been doing my own taxes for over a decade and these "convenience" fees just keep getting worse. What really bothers me is how they bury this information until you're almost done with the entire filing process - by then you've invested hours and feel trapped. For anyone looking to avoid these fees entirely, I'd recommend checking if your bank or credit union offers free tax prep software partnerships. Many do, and they don't hit you with these refund transfer fees since you're already their customer. Also, if you have a simple return (just W-2s, standard deduction), the IRS Free File Fillable Forms are completely free with no hidden fees - though you do need to do the math yourself. The fact that these companies are raising these fees by $10-15 every year while providing the same service is just pure profit-taking. Vote with your wallet and switch to providers that are transparent about their fees upfront!
I'm a bit late to this thread but wanted to add something important - if you do decide to file separately, be aware that BOTH spouses must take the standard deduction or BOTH must itemize. You can't have one person itemize while the other takes the standard deduction. With your income levels, this could be significant depending on whether you have major itemizable deductions like mortgage interest, state taxes, and charitable contributions.
That's not entirely accurate. If one spouse itemizes, the other spouse is forced to itemize too, but they can claim zero for their itemized deductions if they don't have any. So effectively the second spouse gets no deduction at all, which is even worse than being forced to take the same approach!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet that could significantly impact your decision - the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT). At your combined income level of $405k, you're well above the $250k threshold for married filing jointly where the 3.8% NIIT kicks in on investment income. If either of you has significant investment income (dividends, capital gains, rental income, etc.), this could affect whether filing jointly vs. separately makes more sense. When filing separately, each spouse gets their own $200k threshold before NIIT applies. Also, don't forget about the Additional Medicare Tax of 0.9% that applies to wages over $250k for joint filers ($200k for separate filers). Your husband's $324k income will definitely trigger this regardless of filing status, but the thresholds are different. I'd strongly recommend running actual calculations with your real numbers rather than relying on general advice. Every situation is unique, especially when you're dealing with higher income levels where various phase-outs and additional taxes come into play. The student loan consideration that Lilly mentioned is particularly important if applicable to your situation.
Can I just add that this distinction between startup costs and regular business expenses really matters for long-term tax planning? When I started my LLC last year, I misunderstood and tried to deduct everything as startup costs, but my tax person corrected me. Equipment purchases over $2,500 should generally go under Section 179 or be depreciated, not counted as startup costs. And inventory is never a startup cost - it's a cost of goods sold when you actually sell the product. Made a huge difference in my first-year taxes!
Thanks everyone for the detailed explanations! This has been incredibly helpful. I was definitely getting confused by some misleading information I found online about single-member LLCs having different rules. Just to confirm my understanding: For my consulting LLC with around $3,500 in startup costs (business license, legal fees for formation, initial website setup, and some market research), I can deduct the full amount in my first year on Schedule C since it's under the $5,000 threshold. And the $50,000 reduction rule doesn't apply to me since my costs are nowhere near that amount. I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward now. It's amazing how much clearer this becomes when you get accurate information from people who actually understand the tax code!
Thais Soares
I'm wondering if you guys checked that all your W-2 withholding is correct? Last year my employer messed up and wasn't withholding enough fedral tax even though my W-4 was filled out right. Might be worth checking your paystubs against your W-2s to make sure the withholding matches what should be happening.
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Nalani Liu
ā¢This is good advice. I once had an employer that accidentally classified me as exempt for half the year! They had to issue a corrected W-2 and everything. Always double-check those withholding amounts against what should be taken out.
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Isabella Ferreira
This is a really frustrating situation, but unfortunately very common with dual-income households! The $40k income increase plus the $6k in investment income you mentioned creates a perfect storm for under-withholding. Here's what likely happened: Your additional $40k is being taxed at your marginal rate (probably 22-24%), so that's roughly $8,800-$9,600 in additional federal tax. But your withholding probably only increased by maybe $4,000-$5,000 because each employer calculates withholding independently. Add in the investment income with zero withholding, and you're looking at another $1,300+ in taxes. For immediate relief, definitely look into traditional IRA contributions (up to $6,500 each if you qualify) and HSA contributions if you have a qualifying plan. That could reduce your tax bill by $2,000-$3,000. Going forward, use the IRS withholding calculator to get both your W-4s updated ASAP. With your income level and the investment income, you'll probably need to withhold extra on one or both jobs to avoid this happening again next year.
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