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Carmen Ruiz

Why are my State wages and Federal wages different on my W-2? First time seeing this!

So I just got my W-2 for 2024 and noticed something weird. For the first time ever, my state wages (box 16) are different from federal wages (box 1). I've been at this same company for like 5 years and never seen this before. Nothing changed with my job situation at all. The difference is about $1,800 - state wages are higher than federal. I'm kinda freaking out because I don't want to mess up my taxes. Has anyone else run into this? What might cause this? Do I need to report this somehow or is it normal? I'm using TurboTax like I always do, but don't want to proceed until I understand what's going on. Thanks for any insight!

This is actually pretty common and not something to worry about! The difference between Box 1 (federal wages) and Box 16 (state wages) can happen for several legitimate reasons. The most common reason is that certain deductions are taken out pre-tax for federal purposes but not for state purposes. Things like 401(k) contributions, HSA contributions, or certain health insurance premiums might be deductible federally but not at the state level. This would make your state wages higher than federal wages. Some states also have different rules about what counts as taxable income. For example, some states tax certain benefits that the federal government doesn't, or vice versa. Just make sure you're entering the W-2 information exactly as it appears on the form into your tax software, and it should handle the differences correctly.

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Thanks for explaining this! I've got a similar situation with about $2,200 difference between Box 1 and Box 16. I started contributing more to my 401k this year - is that likely the cause? Also, do I need to do anything special when entering this into FreeTaxUSA or just input the numbers exactly as they appear?

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Yes, your increased 401k contributions are very likely the cause of the difference you're seeing. When you contribute to a 401k, that money is typically deducted from your federal taxable wages (Box 1) but many states still count that money as taxable income, which is why it still shows up in Box 16. Just input the numbers exactly as they appear on your W-2 into FreeTaxUSA or any tax software. The software is designed to handle these differences properly. Each box on your W-2 has a specific purpose, and the tax software knows where each number needs to go on both your federal and state returns.

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Mei Wong

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Does this work for more complicated situations? I have W-2s from three different states this year because I moved around for work. Would it help figure out how to handle all that mess?

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QuantumQuasar

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Liam McGuire

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Amara Eze

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Wait, how does this actually work? Do they somehow have a special line to the IRS or something? I've been trying to reach someone about my amended return for weeks.

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Liam McGuire

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Just fyi, one situation that can cause this is if you moved states during the year. Your federal wages would be the total for the whole year, but each state would only show wages earned while you were a resident there. Did you relocate during the year?

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Carmen Ruiz

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Thanks for the suggestion, but no relocation for me. I've been in the same state with the same employer. I think what others have mentioned about pre-tax deductions makes sense in my case since I did increase my 401k contributions this year. I'll double check with my HR department too just to be sure.

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Dylan Wright

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Make sure you actually check with your company's payroll department before filing. There could be an error! Last year my W-2 had a $3,000 difference between boxes and when I asked payroll, they realized they made a coding error and had to issue a corrected W-2. Better to check than assume its correct!

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Sofia Torres

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This is good advice! My company made a similar mistake two years ago and issued a corrected W-2 in late March. I had already filed and had to amend my return. What a headache.

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Carmen Ruiz

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That's a good point - I just emailed our payroll person to verify. Better safe than sorry! Did you have to wait a long time for your corrected W-2? I'm hoping to file by end of February.

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Malik Davis

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Another thing to consider is whether you have any pre-tax benefits that changed this year. I had the same confusion when I started using a dependent care FSA (flexible spending account) for my kid's daycare. The FSA contributions reduced my federal taxable wages in Box 1, but my state doesn't recognize dependent care FSAs as pre-tax, so those amounts stayed in my state wages in Box 16. Also check if you have any employer-paid life insurance over $50,000 - that gets added to federal wages but some states handle it differently. The good news is that TurboTax will handle all these differences correctly as long as you enter the W-2 exactly as printed. Just make sure to double-check that you're entering the right numbers in the right boxes!

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Lena Schultz

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Thanks for mentioning the dependent care FSA - I hadn't considered that! I don't have one of those, but I did start contributing to an HSA this year which sounds similar. That could definitely explain part of the difference I'm seeing. The employer-paid life insurance point is interesting too. I think my company provides some basic coverage, but I'm not sure if it's over the $50k threshold. I'll check my benefits portal to see what the coverage amount is. It's reassuring to hear that TurboTax should handle these differences automatically. I was worried I'd need to do some manual calculations or something!

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Andre Laurent

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I went through the exact same thing last year! The $1,800 difference you're seeing is most likely due to pre-tax deductions that reduce your federal wages but not your state wages. Since you mentioned nothing changed with your job situation, check if you made any changes to your benefits enrollment during open enrollment - even small increases to 401k contributions, health insurance premiums, or starting an HSA can cause this difference. In my case, I had increased my 401k contribution by just 2% and that created about a $1,600 difference between Box 1 and Box 16. TurboTax handled it perfectly - just enter the numbers exactly as they appear on your W-2 and the software will sort out where everything goes on your federal vs state returns. One quick thing to verify: make sure your paystub totals for the year match what's on your W-2. If there's a discrepancy there, then you might need to contact payroll. But if everything matches up, you're good to go!

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Amina Sow

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This is really helpful, thank you! I did increase my 401k contribution from 6% to 8% during open enrollment, so that's probably exactly what's causing the difference. It's such a relief to know this is normal - I was genuinely worried I had some kind of tax problem on my hands. I'll definitely check my final paystub against the W-2 numbers like you suggested, just to make sure everything adds up correctly. It's good to know that TurboTax will handle all the calculations automatically once I input the correct numbers from each box. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's exactly what I needed to hear to feel confident about moving forward with filing!

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Paolo Rizzo

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This is a really common situation that catches people off guard the first time they see it! As others have mentioned, the most likely culprit is your increased 401k contributions. When you contribute to a traditional 401k, that money is deducted from your gross pay before federal taxes are calculated, which is why it doesn't show up in Box 1 (federal wages). However, many states don't recognize 401k contributions as pre-tax deductions, so that money still gets included in Box 16 (state wages). The $1,800 difference you're seeing sounds about right for a 2% increase in 401k contributions on a typical salary. You can verify this by looking at your final paystub of 2024 - it should show your total 401k contributions for the year, and that amount should roughly match the difference between your Box 1 and Box 16 wages (assuming no other pre-tax deductions changed). Don't stress about entering this into TurboTax - the software is designed to handle these differences automatically. Just input each box exactly as it appears on your W-2, and TurboTax will correctly allocate the amounts to your federal and state returns. This is actually a good thing tax-wise since you're reducing your federal taxable income while building retirement savings!

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This explanation is spot on! I'm actually going through my first year with this difference too, and it was really confusing at first. I started contributing to my 401k mid-year when I got a raise, so I have about a $900 difference between Box 1 and Box 16. What helped me understand it was thinking about it this way: the federal government is basically saying "we won't tax you on money you're putting away for retirement," but my state is like "nope, we're still going to tax all the money you earned." It makes sense when you think about it that way. I also double-checked by adding up all my 401k contributions from my paystubs and it matched almost exactly with the difference on my W-2. Thanks for the detailed explanation - it really helps to hear from others who've been through this!

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Malik Davis

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This is exactly the kind of situation that trips up so many first-time filers! The $1,800 difference between your Box 1 and Box 16 is almost certainly due to pre-tax deductions - most commonly 401(k) contributions, health insurance premiums, or HSA contributions. Here's what's happening: when you contribute to your 401(k), that money gets deducted from your gross pay BEFORE federal taxes are calculated, so it doesn't show up in Box 1 (federal wages). However, your state may not recognize these as pre-tax deductions, so the full amount of your earnings still appears in Box 16 (state wages). Since you mentioned nothing changed with your job but this is your first time seeing this difference, I'd bet you either increased your 401(k) contribution during open enrollment, started contributing to an HSA, or had some other benefit change that you might not have thought about as affecting your taxes. The good news is this is completely normal and actually beneficial - you're reducing your federal tax liability! Just enter the W-2 numbers exactly as they appear into TurboTax, and the software will handle all the calculations correctly. No need to panic or do any manual adjustments.

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Sean Doyle

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with something similar - my Box 1 and Box 16 differ by about $2,400 and I was totally panicked when I first saw it. Based on all these explanations, I'm pretty sure it's because I maxed out my HSA contributions this year ($4,300 for individual coverage) plus increased my 401k from 4% to 6%. It's really reassuring to hear from so many people who've experienced this same situation. I was convinced there was some kind of error or that I'd have to file complicated paperwork. Now I understand it's actually a good thing since I'm reducing my federal tax burden while saving for retirement and healthcare! Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is incredibly helpful for navigating these confusing tax situations!

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Zoe Stavros

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Just wanted to add another perspective here - I'm a tax preparer and see this exact situation multiple times every tax season! The $1,800 difference you're seeing between Box 1 and Box 16 is completely normal and nothing to worry about. Based on your description, the most likely cause is that you made changes to your pre-tax deductions during 2024 - even if they seem minor. Common culprits include: - Increased 401(k) contributions (even a 1-2% increase can create significant differences) - Started or increased HSA contributions - Changes to health/dental insurance premiums - New or increased flexible spending account contributions What happens is these deductions reduce your federal taxable wages (Box 1) but many states don't recognize all the same pre-tax deductions, so your state wages (Box 16) remain higher. You can verify this by checking your final 2024 paystub - look at your year-to-date pre-tax deductions and see if they roughly match the $1,800 difference. If they do, you're all set! Just enter your W-2 exactly as printed into TurboTax and let the software do its job. This is actually saving you money on federal taxes while building your retirement/healthcare savings!

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Alana Willis

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Thank you so much for the professional perspective! As a tax preparer, your explanation really puts my mind at ease. I did check my final paystub like you suggested, and my year-to-date pre-tax deductions total about $1,750, which is almost exactly the difference I'm seeing on my W-2. You're absolutely right - I increased my 401k contribution from 5% to 7% during open enrollment, and I also started contributing $50/month to a dependent care FSA for my daughter's daycare expenses. I completely forgot about the FSA when trying to figure out what changed! It's actually pretty exciting to realize that this "scary" difference on my W-2 is actually evidence that I'm making smart financial moves by maximizing my pre-tax benefits. I feel much more confident about proceeding with TurboTax now. Thanks for taking the time to explain this from a professional standpoint - it really helps to hear from someone who deals with these situations regularly!

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