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One thing nobody mentioned yet is that Coverdell accounts give you WAY more investment options than 529 plans. With a 529, you're usually stuck with whatever investment options your state's plan offers (typically target-date funds and some index funds). With a Coverdell, you can invest in pretty much anything - individual stocks, ETFs, mutual funds, etc. This was a huge factor for me since I wanted more control.
Is there a big difference in fees between the two? I heard some 529 plans have high management fees that eat into returns.
Fees vary widely. Some state 529 plans are quite reasonable (Utah, Nevada, and New York have low-cost index fund options around 0.15-0.20% expense ratios). Others can be over 1% when you include all the administrative fees. With Coverdell accounts, your fees depend on where you open the account and what you invest in. If you open one at a low-cost brokerage like Fidelity or Vanguard and choose low-cost ETFs, you can keep total fees under 0.1%. If you trade individual stocks frequently, transaction costs could add up, though many brokerages now offer free stock trades.
Another consideration is that 529 plans can now be rolled over into Roth IRAs (as of 2024) - up to $35,000 lifetime limit. This is HUGE for flexibility if your kid doesn't use all the 529 funds for education. Coverdells don't have this option.
Wait really?? So if my kid doesn't go to college or gets scholarships, they can just roll the 529 into a Roth? Are there restrictions on this? This would totally change my decision if true.
Has anyone used Sprintax for filing their Non-Resident Alien tax return? My university gives us free access to it, but I'm not sure if it handles these tax treaty situations correctly, especially if there were withholding mistakes during the year.
I used Sprintax last year and it handled my tax treaty exemption perfectly. It asks detailed questions about your visa status, treaty eligibility, and even walks you through Form 8233 issues if you had incorrect withholding. My university also provided it for free, and I got back all the federal taxes that were incorrectly withheld from my assistantship. One tip though - make sure you have all your documents ready before you start: all pay stubs, W-2, any 1042-S forms for treaty benefits already applied, and your passport/visa info. The system is pretty thorough about checking F1 Non-Resident Alien eligibility for tax treaty benefits.
I went through this exact same situation last year as an F1 student from Canada! The key thing that helped me was understanding that even though you filled out the W-8BEN, your university's payroll system might not be properly configured to apply the tax treaty exemption automatically. Here's what worked for me: I had to go to the payroll office with a printed copy of the specific tax treaty article (Article 20 for Canada, but yours will be different for Malaysia) and explicitly request that they update my withholding status. Sometimes they need to manually override their system to stop the automatic withholding. Also, keep detailed records of everything - all your pay stubs, the W-8BEN you submitted, and any correspondence with the payroll office. If they can't fix it immediately, you'll definitely be able to get a full refund when you file your tax return next year. The IRS is actually pretty good about honoring tax treaty exemptions for F1 students once you have all the proper documentation. Don't give up - this is a really common issue that gets resolved once the right people understand your situation!
This is exactly why I always tell people to pay tax prep fees upfront! The "convenience" of having fees deducted from your refund ends up costing you more money AND delays your refund. Between the $39 SBTPG processing fee and the extra week they hold your money, you're basically paying for the privilege of getting your own money later. For anyone filing next year - just budget to pay the TurboTax fees with a credit card when you file. You'll get your full refund directly from the IRS faster and without any third-party middleman taking a cut. The "convenience" fee is never worth it!
This is such good advice! I'm definitely one of those people who got fooled by the "convenience" marketing. Looking back, paying $39 extra just to avoid putting the TurboTax fee on my credit card seems ridiculous. And you're absolutely right about the delay - I was wondering why my refund took so much longer this year compared to when I filed with a different service last year. Now I know it was because of SBTPG sitting on my money for a week. Lesson learned for next tax season!
I wish I had found this thread before filing! I had the exact same experience with SBTPG and was completely confused when I saw that name on my bank statement instead of "IRS TREAS." The $39 fee really stings when you realize you're paying extra just to avoid putting the TurboTax fee on your card upfront. What really bothers me is how buried this information is during the filing process. TurboTax makes it sound like you're just deferring payment, but they don't clearly explain that a third party will be handling your refund and taking an additional fee. I spent way too much time worrying that something fraudulent had happened to my refund. Definitely paying the prep fees directly next year - the "convenience" isn't worth the extra cost and delay!
I'm in the exact same boat! Just filed my taxes and chose that "convenient" option without realizing what I was getting into. When I saw SBTPG on my bank statement, I honestly thought someone had stolen my refund at first. It's really frustrating how they bury the details about this extra fee and the third-party processor. I'm definitely going to be more careful reading the fine print next year. It's crazy that we essentially pay a premium to make our refund process more complicated and slower. Thanks for sharing your experience - at least now I know I'm not the only one who got caught off guard by this!
I'm a bit confused about one thing - if I did have a funded Robinhood account with some activity, what tax software is best for handling investment stuff? I've only ever used the free version of TaxAct for my super simple returns, but I'm planning to start investing this year.
I've used both TurboTax Premier and H&R Block Deluxe with investments. They both handle basic investment stuff fine, but TurboTax makes it easier to import directly from Robinhood. Just click a button and it pulls all the data. Saves a ton of time versus entering each transaction manually.
If you're just starting out with investing, FreeTaxUSA handles basic investment income pretty well for much cheaper than TurboTax. It doesn't have the fancy import features, but if you only have a few trades it's not hard to enter manually. I switched last year and saved like $80.
Emma, you're absolutely right not to worry about tax forms from Robinhood in your situation. Since you never funded the account or made any trades, there's zero taxable activity to report. Robinhood only generates 1099 forms when there's actual financial activity - like stock sales, dividends received, or interest earned on cash balances. Just creating an account doesn't trigger any tax reporting requirements. You won't receive any forms from them, and there's nothing you need to include on your tax return related to this account. It's essentially like signing up for any other app - no tax implications until you actually start using it for financial transactions. If you do decide to start investing in the future, that's when you'd need to pay attention to the tax documents they send. But for now, you can cross this worry off your list completely!
Luca Greco
As someone who went through this process twice in the past two years, I can share that the 7-day mark is still well within the normal range. The IRS verification system operates on batch processing cycles, not real-time updates. Your verification likely processed correctly, but the transcript updates happen in scheduled waves. I found that checking daily at 5:30 AM actually increased my anxiety - the updates typically appear on Wednesday or Thursday mornings when they do their weekly batch processing. Since you're new to the US tax system, it's worth noting that this verification process is actually a security feature to protect taxpayers from identity theft. The wait is frustrating but normal. I'd suggest giving it until the 14-day mark before calling back, as that's when most cases resolve according to the IRS's own published timelines.
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Zadie Patel
ā¢This is really helpful context, especially the part about batch processing cycles! I'm also new to the US and went through ID verification last month. You're absolutely right about the daily checking increasing anxiety - I was doing the same thing at 6 AM every morning and driving myself crazy. For what it's worth @StarSailor, my transcript finally updated on a Thursday morning exactly 11 days after my verification call, and I got my refund 5 days later. The waiting is definitely the hardest part when you're still getting familiar with how US government systems work. Hang in there!
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Emma Anderson
I went through this exact same situation last year as a new US resident! The uncertainty is definitely nerve-wracking when you're still learning how the IRS system works. From my experience and what I've observed in this community, the 7-14 day window is accurate for most cases, but it can extend to 21 days during busy periods. What helped me manage the anxiety was understanding that the IRS has multiple verification queues - some for simple returns, others for complex ones. Since you mentioned needing the refund for credit history purposes, I assume your return is relatively straightforward, which typically processes faster. One tip that worked for me: instead of checking daily at 5:30 AM, try checking on Thursday or Friday mornings only, since that's when most weekly batch updates occur. The daily checking just added stress without providing useful information. Also, since you're new to the US tax system, it might be worth calling the IRS taxpayer assistance line (1-877-777-4778) around day 10-12 just to confirm your verification was properly recorded in their system. Sometimes there can be technical glitches that delay processing, and it's better to catch those early rather than wait the full 21 days. Hang in there - the process works, it's just frustratingly opaque about timing!
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Chloe Harris
ā¢This is such valuable advice, especially for newcomers like myself! I'm currently on day 9 after my verification call and was getting really anxious checking every morning. Your point about the weekly batch processing makes so much sense - I'll switch to checking only on Thursday/Friday mornings instead of daily. @EmmaAnderson The tip about calling around day 10-12 to confirm the verification was recorded is brilliant. I hadn't thought about the possibility of technical glitches, and you're right that it's better to catch those early rather than wait the full three weeks. It's reassuring to hear from other new residents who've been through this process successfully. The lack of transparency in timing is definitely one of the more stressful aspects of navigating the US tax system for the first time. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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