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Dumb question maybe, but what exactly happens if the statute of limitations runs out while they're still auditing? Does the whole thing just go away magically, or can they still assess taxes based on what they found up to that point?
Not a dumb question at all! If the statute expires during an audit and you haven't signed an extension, the IRS can't legally assess additional tax for that year. However, they typically won't let this happen. If they see the statute is about to expire and you haven't signed Form 872, they'll usually rush to complete the audit with whatever information they have. This often means making conservative assessments in the government's favor since they don't have time to thoroughly review everything. They'll issue a "statutory notice of deficiency" (90-day letter) before the deadline, which preserves their right to assess the tax. At that point, your only recourse would be to petition the Tax Court within 90 days, which is more formal and potentially more expensive than working through the normal audit process.
Based on your situation, I'd actually recommend signing the Form 872 with a negotiated timeframe. Here's why: since you've already provided all documentation and are planning to accept their findings anyway, giving them adequate time to complete a thorough review could work in your favor. When auditors feel rushed by an expiring statute, they often make conservative estimates that lean heavily toward the government's position. With more time, they might catch calculation errors in your favor or give more consideration to borderline deductions. Since you mentioned the proposed increase is $4,200, I'd suggest signing the extension but negotiating it down to 6 months instead of the typical 1-year extension. This gives them sufficient time while still keeping some urgency to wrap things up. You can literally cross out the date on Form 872 and write in your preferred end date - most examiners will accept reasonable modifications. The key is being proactive about it. Contact your examiner and say something like: "I'm willing to sign the extension to give you adequate time to complete a thorough review, but I'd prefer to limit it to 6 months to bring closure to this matter." This shows cooperation while maintaining some control over the timeline.
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a somewhat similar situation with my 2022 audit. One thing I'm wondering - when you negotiate the timeframe down to 6 months, do you need to provide a reason for that specific timeline, or can you just propose it? Also, if they reject your proposed shorter timeframe, are you stuck either signing their original extension or refusing entirely, or can you negotiate somewhere in the middle?
Has anyone considered whether insurance proceeds should be reported as income? If you got a settlement for the total loss but then repaired it anyway, that settlement might be taxable if it exceeded your basis in the vehicle.
Insurance settlements for personal vehicles usually aren't taxable unless you end up with a gain. Like if your car was worth $10k but somehow insurance paid you $12k, that $2k difference might be taxable. But it's rare for that to happen since cars usually lose value over time.
Just wanted to add one more point that might be relevant - if you're planning to sell the repaired vehicle in the future, you'll want to keep detailed records of what you spent on repairs. While you can't deduct these expenses now, they could affect your capital gains calculation when you eventually sell the car. For tax purposes, the repair costs you paid out of pocket (after receiving the insurance settlement) would be added to your "basis" in the vehicle. So if you originally paid $15k for the car, got a $10k settlement, then spent $4,800 on repairs, your new basis would be $9,800 ($15k - $10k + $4,800). This could reduce any potential gain if you sell it later for more than that amount. It's a small consolation since you can't deduct the expenses now, but at least those receipts might save you some taxes down the road if the car appreciates or you sell it for more than expected.
If your combined income for the year is under $73,000, you can use IRS Free File to e-file both your federal and state returns for free! I used it for my two-state situation last year and it worked great. The wizard asks where you lived during the year and guides you through the process for filing multiple state returns.
I tried using Free File for my multi-state return but got super confused with the part-year resident stuff. Ended up making a mistake and had to file an amended return which was a huge hassle. Just be careful if you go this route.
That's a good point about being careful with the part-year resident forms. The trickiest part for me was figuring out how to correctly allocate my income between the two states based on my residency dates. I found that taking it slow and double-checking the state-specific instructions for part-year residents really helped avoid mistakes. Some states have really specific rules about how to divide up income and deductions when you're a part-year resident. I actually called both state tax departments to confirm I was doing it right before submitting.
I notice there's some confusion in the comments above - the original poster mentioned working in Colorado first then Arizona, but one commenter referred to California instead of Arizona. Just wanted to clarify for anyone following along! For your specific situation (Colorado β Arizona), you'll file your federal 1040 to the IRS processing center for Arizona residents since that's your current state of residence. For state returns, you'll need to file a Colorado part-year resident return (not non-resident, since you lived there for part of the year) and an Arizona part-year resident return as well. The key difference between part-year resident and non-resident filing can affect your tax liability significantly, so make sure you're using the right forms for each state. Both Colorado and Arizona have specific rules about how to allocate income and deductions for part-year residents.
Thanks for catching that mix-up about California vs Arizona! That's really helpful clarification. I'm actually in a similar boat - moved from one state to another mid-year and wasn't sure about the part-year resident vs non-resident distinction. Quick question though - how do you determine the exact cutoff dates for the part-year resident filing? Is it based on when you physically moved, when you started working in the new state, or when you established legal residency? I'm worried about getting the dates wrong and having issues with both state tax departments.
wait so ur telling me these random numbers actually mean something? π€ ive been ignoring mine lmaooo
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Congrats on getting the 811! That's the code we all want to see π For anyone else confused by transcript codes, here's a quick breakdown: 424 = under review, 810 = account frozen, 811 = freeze released. The cycle dates and DDD (Direct Deposit Date) are what really matter for timing. Dylan, you should definitely see that money hit your account on 2/24!
This is super helpful! I'm new here and still learning all these codes. Quick question - if someone has a 424 but no 810/811 yet, does that mean they're still waiting for the review to finish? My transcript just shows the 424 from last week.
Oliver Fischer
Has anyone had their employer incorrectly include travel expenses for education in their W-2? My company added all my hotel and flight costs for a training program to my taxable income, and I think they're handling it wrong based on what people are saying here.
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Natasha Petrova
β’I had this exact issue last year! My employer included about $3200 in travel expenses for a required certification in my taxable income. I brought the IRS rules to our payroll department and showed them that job-related education travel should be treated as a business expense reimbursement. They issued a corrected W-2, and it saved me around $700 in taxes.
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Vanessa Figueroa
I'm dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned after consulting with a tax professional. The distinction between educational assistance benefits (Section 127) and business expense reimbursements is crucial here. For your $4900 course, if it's provided under your employer's qualified educational assistance program, it falls under the $5250 annual exclusion and won't be taxable income. The travel and lodging expenses are handled separately - they don't count toward the $5250 limit at all. If your employer reimburses travel expenses under an accountable plan (you provide receipts, return excess funds, and the expenses have a business connection), those reimbursements are typically not taxable and are treated as business expense reimbursements rather than educational benefits. The key question is whether your training maintains or improves skills for your current job. If yes, the travel expenses can qualify as deductible business expenses when reimbursed properly. If the education is to qualify you for a new career, the travel expenses would likely be taxable. I'd recommend checking with your HR department about how they're classifying these reimbursements on your W-2. Many employers mistakenly include travel reimbursements as taxable income when they should be treated as business expense reimbursements.
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Vera Visnjic
β’This is really helpful information! I'm new to understanding these tax rules and this breakdown makes it much clearer. One follow-up question - you mentioned checking with HR about how they're classifying the reimbursements on the W-2. What specific box or section should I be looking at to see if they've handled the travel expenses correctly? I want to make sure I know what to look for when I get my W-2 so I can catch any mistakes early.
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