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Raj Gupta

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I switched from H&R Block to TurboTax 2 years ago and my refund was actually higher with TurboTax! Not because TurboTax is "better" but because the software asked me some questions my tax preparer never did about my kids' school expenses and some job-related costs. If you're worried about missing something, just go slow and read all the questions carefully. Both H&R Block and TurboTax use the same tax laws - the difference is just in how thorough you are with providing information. One tip: Before you start, gather ALL your documents: W-2s, any 1099s, childcare receipts, any school costs, healthcare info. Having everything ready makes the process much smoother.

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This is actually misleading. Tax pros are trained to ask about all possible deductions and credits. If your H&R Block person missed asking about school expenses, they weren't doing their job properly. A good tax professional should get you a better result than DIY software in most cases.

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As someone who made the switch from H&R Block to TurboTax three years ago, I can tell you it was one of the best financial decisions I made. With your situation - married filing jointly, 4 dependents, straightforward W-2 income - you're actually in an ideal position for DIY software. Here's what I wish someone had told me before I switched: Your refund amount will be virtually identical between H&R Block and TurboTax because they're both following the same tax code. The real question is whether you're comfortable navigating the software yourself. For a family like yours, you'll mainly be dealing with the Child Tax Credit (up to $2,000 per child under 17), and possibly the Child and Dependent Care Credit if you pay for childcare. TurboTax is excellent at walking you through these family-related credits with simple yes/no questions. My advice? Try TurboTax's free estimation tool first. Input your basic info and see what refund estimate you get. If it's close to your usual $7,000, you'll know the software is capturing your situation correctly. You can always abandon the process if you're not comfortable. That $320 you're saving annually adds up - over 5 years, that's $1,600 back in your pocket for the same result.

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Dylan Hughes

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I went through this exact same thing last year! Got the dreaded Form 9143 and had a mini panic attack thinking I'd messed up my taxes completely. Turns out I had signed with a purple gel pen (seemed like a good idea at the time, don't ask why πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ). The key things I learned: 1) Use only black or blue ink - no gel pens, no fancy colors, no pencil 2) Make sure your signature looks reasonably similar to previous years 3) Don't forget to date it if there's a date line 4) Send everything back that they returned to you, not just the signature page The good news is this is super common and totally fixable! I was worried about penalties too, but as long as you get it back to them promptly, your original filing date counts. Just make sure to use certified mail with tracking - learned that lesson from the comments above and it's totally worth the extra few dollars for peace of mind. You'll get through this! It's way more stressful than it needs to be, but it's really just a paperwork hiccup.

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Amina Bah

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Purple gel pen! πŸ˜‚ I'm sorry but that actually made me laugh - I can totally see how that seemed like a good idea at the time. Thanks for sharing all those tips, especially about the certified mail. I'm definitely going to do that when I send mine back. It's so reassuring to hear from people who've been through this exact situation. I was spiraling a bit thinking I'd somehow ruined my entire tax return, but it sounds like this is really just a minor paperwork issue that happens all the time. Going to re-sign with a boring black pen and get this sorted out ASAP!

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Sean Murphy

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I'm dealing with a Form 9143 right now too! Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful and reassuring. I was convinced I had completely screwed up my taxes, but it sounds like this is actually pretty routine. My situation is a bit different - I think I might have used a Sharpie marker to sign mine (seemed bold and official at the time, but now I'm realizing that was probably a mistake). The ink was definitely black, but maybe too thick/bold for their scanners? One question for anyone who's been through this - about how long did it take to get confirmation that they received and processed your corrected return? I'm planning to send mine back with certified mail as suggested, but wondering what kind of timeline to expect before I hear back from them. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences! This thread has saved me so much stress and confusion.

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Kristin Frank

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Guys im so confused about all this. if i want the money now instead of later do i still have to file taxes showing the EV purchase or is that the dealers problem now??? also does this affect other credits I might get like child tax credit??

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Sayid Hassan

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When you transfer the credit to the dealer, you don't claim anything related to the EV credit on your tax return. It's entirely the dealer's responsibility to claim it with the IRS. You get your discount upfront, and you're done! This has zero effect on any other tax credits you qualify for, like the child tax credit. Those will work exactly the same as they always have. The EV credit transfer is completely separate from the rest of your tax situation.

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Kristin Frank

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thank you!! thats such a relief. was worried it would mess up my refund somehow. gonna go with the transfer option for sure now. appreciate the help!!

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Emma Taylor

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation where I was worried about my tax liability being too low to get the full benefit. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like transferring to the dealer is definitely the way to go. One thing I want to add for future EV buyers - make sure you understand the income limits for the EV credit before you commit to the transfer. The credit phases out at certain income levels ($300k for joint filers, $150k for single), and if you're over those limits, you won't qualify for the credit at all, whether you transfer it or claim it yourself. Also, double-check that your specific EV model qualifies for the full $4,000 credit. Some vehicles only qualify for half the credit ($2,000) depending on where the battery components are sourced from. The dealer should know this, but it's worth verifying independently. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this community is awesome for getting real-world advice on these complicated tax situations!

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Thanks Emma for bringing up those important points! I'm actually a newcomer to this whole EV tax credit thing and had no idea about the income limits. That's really good to know before I get too far into the process. Quick question - you mentioned some vehicles only qualify for half the credit. Is there an easy way to check which vehicles qualify for the full $4,000 vs just $2,000? I don't want to assume I'm getting the full amount and then be disappointed at the dealership. Also, does anyone know if the transfer paperwork is different for the partial credit amount, or is it the same process regardless of whether you're getting $2,000 or $4,000?

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Yara Khoury

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Does anyone know if the April 15th tax filing deadline is also the deadline for paying remaining taxes on 1099 income? Im confused if we are supposed to pay all remaining taxes by January 15th or if April 15th is ok too?

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Keisha Taylor

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The January 15th deadline is for the fourth quarter estimated payment. The April 15th deadline is when your final tax return is due AND when any remaining tax balance must be paid. So if you didn't make estimated payments throughout the year (or didn't pay enough), you might face underpayment penalties, but you have until April 15th to pay the full amount you actually owe.

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Yuki Tanaka

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This is exactly the kind of situation where having good records really pays off! I'd recommend pulling together all your documents - your Q1-Q3 payment confirmations, your October 1099 income records, and your November-December pay stubs showing withholding amounts. Here's a practical approach: Calculate 25% of your total annual 1099 income (since that's roughly what your Q4 payment should cover). Then subtract what you already paid in Q1-Q3. Whatever's left is what you'd normally owe for Q4. Now check if your W-2 withholding in Nov-Dec exceeded what you'd typically owe on just those two months of W-2 income - that excess could cover your remaining Q4 obligation. The key thing to remember is that the IRS doesn't care how you structure your payments throughout the year, as long as you end up paying the right total amount by the time you file. So if your W-2 withholding "overpaid" for Nov-Dec and covers your October 1099 taxes, you're golden. When in doubt, making a small Q4 payment is usually the safer bet than risking underpayment penalties, especially since you'll get any overpayment back as a refund.

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Molly Hansen

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This is really helpful advice about organizing the documents! I'm new to this whole quarterly payment thing and didn't realize I should be keeping such detailed records. One question - when you say "25% of total annual 1099 income," are you talking about 25% of the gross income or 25% of the net profit after business expenses? I've been calculating based on gross income but I'm wondering if that's making me overpay significantly.

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Adriana Cohn

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Great question! You should definitely be calculating based on your net profit after business expenses, not gross income. That 25% figure refers to roughly 25% of your Schedule C net profit (after deducting legitimate business expenses like equipment, supplies, home office deduction, etc.). If you've been calculating quarterly payments on gross 1099 income, you're likely overpaying by quite a bit! For example, if you received $40,000 in 1099 income but had $10,000 in business expenses, you'd only owe estimated taxes on the $30,000 net profit, not the full $40,000. Make sure to keep receipts for all your business expenses throughout the year - they can significantly reduce your tax liability. Common deductions include office supplies, software subscriptions, professional development, business meals (50%), and if you work from home, a portion of your home expenses. This is exactly why good record-keeping is so important for 1099 work!

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Drake

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I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago with a 12c letter requesting my W2. Here's what I learned that might help you: First, the 6-8 week timeline is actually pretty accurate if you respond quickly and completely. Mine took about 7 weeks from when I mailed my response to when I got my refund deposited. Definitely use certified mail like others mentioned - it's worth the extra cost for peace of mind. I was paranoid about them losing my documents too, so I also made sure to write my SSN and the letter reference number on every single page I sent. One thing that helped me was calling the IRS about 4 weeks after I sent my response to confirm they had received it and that it was being processed. Yes, it's a pain to get through to them, but it was worth it to know my case was moving forward. Also, keep checking the "Where's My Refund" tool regularly. Once they start processing your documentation, you'll see the status change from "still processing" to showing an actual refund date. That's when you know you're in the home stretch. Good luck with your refund! $3,800 is definitely worth the stress of dealing with this paperwork.

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Emma Johnson

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Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful. I'm curious - when you called the IRS after 4 weeks, did they actually have useful information about your case status? Or was it just a generic "we're still processing" response? I'm trying to decide if it's worth the hassle of getting through their phone system. Also, did you notice any pattern with the "Where's My Refund" tool updates? Like did it change status gradually or did it just suddenly show a refund date one day?

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Amaya Watson

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When I called the IRS after 4 weeks, they actually had specific information about my case! The agent was able to tell me that they had received my documents on [specific date] and that my case was assigned to an examiner for review. She couldn't give me an exact timeline, but she confirmed all my documentation was there and complete, which was a huge relief. As for the "Where's My Refund" tool, it was pretty static for most of the process - just showed "still processing" for about 6 weeks. Then one day (I was checking maybe every other day at that point), it suddenly updated to show my refund date and the full amount. No gradual changes, just went from processing to "your refund will be deposited on [date]." The key was being patient but persistent with checking both the online tool and making that one phone call to confirm they had everything they needed.

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I'm dealing with a 12c letter right now too and this thread has been incredibly helpful! Just wanted to add one thing I learned from my tax preparer - if your W2 shows any corrections or amendments (like a W2c), make sure to include BOTH the original W2 and the corrected version when you respond. The IRS needs to see the complete paper trail to understand any discrepancies. I almost made the mistake of just sending the corrected W2c thinking that was all they needed, but my preparer caught it and said that could have delayed my case even further. Also, if you have multiple W2s from different employers, send copies of ALL of them even if the letter only mentions one specifically. Better to give them more information than they need rather than having to go through another round of correspondence. Hope this helps someone avoid the mistakes I almost made!

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This is such great advice about including both versions of W2s! I didn't even think about that scenario. Quick question - if you have a W2c correction, do you need to explain WHY there was a correction in a cover letter, or do you just send both documents and let the IRS figure it out? I'm worried about over-explaining and accidentally confusing the situation, but I also don't want to leave them guessing about what happened.

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