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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm 34 and have been putting off this decision partly due to cost. Based on what everyone's shared, it sounds like the key is getting proper medical documentation that frames egg freezing as preservation of reproductive function rather than just "not being ready." A few follow-up questions for those who've been through this: 1. Did your insurance cover any portion that you then couldn't deduct (since you can't double-dip)? 2. How detailed did your doctor's letter need to be - just a paragraph or multiple pages? 3. For those who itemized, what other medical expenses helped you reach that 7.5% AGI threshold? I'm definitely going to discuss this with my fertility clinic and see what documentation they can provide. The potential tax savings could make this much more feasible for me financially.
Great questions! I went through this process last year at 33, so I can share my experience: 1. My insurance didn't cover anything (most don't for elective egg freezing), so no double-dip concerns there. If yours does cover part of it, you're right that you can only deduct what you actually paid out of pocket. 2. My doctor's letter was about half a page - concise but thorough. It explained age-related fertility decline as a medical reality, how egg freezing preserves reproductive function, and specifically mentioned this was "medically advisable" given my age and reproductive timeline. The key phrases were "preservation of bodily function" and "medically necessary." 3. I was lucky to hit the 7.5% threshold because I also had some dental work and physical therapy costs that year. Without other medical expenses, the math might not work unless you have a lower AGI or significant procedure costs. One tip: keep ALL receipts including medications, monitoring appointments, and storage fees - they can all potentially count toward your medical expenses. Good luck with your decision!
I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm 35 and have been researching this exact question for months. The information here is incredibly helpful, especially the specific details about documentation and framing it as preservation of reproductive function. One thing I'd add from my research - I spoke with my tax preparer about this and she mentioned that even if the IRS doesn't explicitly list egg freezing, the broader language in Publication 502 about medical care for "treatments affecting any structure or function of the body" gives reasonable grounds for the deduction. The key is being able to defend your position with proper medical documentation. For those worried about audit risk, my preparer said that medical deductions are actually less likely to trigger audits unless they're disproportionately large compared to your income. The bigger concern is just making sure you can substantiate the medical necessity if questioned. I'm planning to move forward with the procedure next year and will definitely be asking my doctor for a detailed letter explaining the medical basis. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this gives me much more confidence in the tax treatment!
This is such a fascinating area of taxation! One thing that adds another layer of complexity is how different types of compensation within player contracts are treated. For example, signing bonuses are typically amortized over the contract length for cap purposes but may be immediately deductible for tax purposes, while performance bonuses might be contingent liabilities that aren't recognized until earned. Also worth noting that when teams relocate or change ownership, there can be some really complex basis adjustments and recapture issues with previously amortized player contracts. I had a client situation a few years back where a team sale triggered unexpected ordinary income recognition on contracts that had been treated as capital assets. The interaction between salary cap accounting (which follows league rules) and tax accounting (which follows IRS rules) can create some interesting planning opportunities for teams, especially around contract restructuring and the timing of bonus payments.
This is really helpful insight about the different layers of complexity! I'm curious about the recapture issues you mentioned - when a team sale triggers ordinary income recognition on previously capitalized contracts, is that because the contracts had been depreciated below their fair market value at the time of sale? And regarding the salary cap vs tax accounting differences, do teams typically need to maintain two separate sets of books for player contract accounting, or is there a way to reconcile these on a single ledger system? I imagine the timing differences alone would create significant reconciliation headaches at year-end.
Great questions! On the recapture issue - it's actually more nuanced than simple depreciation below FMV. What happened in my client's case was that when the team was sold, the IRS challenged the original allocation of the purchase price between different asset categories. Some contracts that had been treated as capital assets (and amortized) were reclassified as ordinary income items, triggering recapture of the previous depreciation deductions at ordinary rates rather than capital gains rates. Regarding the dual accounting systems - most professional teams do maintain separate tracking systems, though they don't necessarily keep completely separate books. They typically use sophisticated ERP systems that can handle multiple reporting bases simultaneously. The salary cap accounting flows to league reporting, while tax basis flows to financial statements and returns. The reconciliation is definitely complex, especially when you factor in things like performance bonuses that may be accrued differently for cap vs tax purposes, or international players with treaty implications. The key is having good software that can track the timing differences automatically - manual reconciliation would be a nightmare given how many moving pieces there are in a typical team's roster throughout a season.
This has been such an informative discussion! As someone who works primarily with individual returns, I had no idea how complex sports team accounting could be. The roster depreciation allowance aspect is particularly fascinating - I can see why franchise ownership has such strong tax advantages beyond just the appreciation potential. One follow-up question: for teams that have international operations (like MLB teams with academies in Latin America, or NBA teams with G-League affiliates internationally), how does that complicate the player contract accounting? I'm thinking specifically about development costs for prospects who may never make it to the major league level, and whether those can be capitalized or if they're just immediately expensed as training costs. Also, does anyone know if there are different rules for how teams handle contracts for players who retire due to injury vs. those who are simply released? I imagine there could be some interesting insurance recovery vs. loss recognition issues there.
Great questions about international operations! For development academies and international affiliates, the accounting treatment can vary significantly based on the structure. Generally, costs for prospects who haven't signed professional contracts are expensed as current training/scouting costs rather than capitalized. However, once a prospect signs a professional development contract (even at the minor league level), those costs can often be capitalized as part of the player asset. The injury vs. release distinction is really important from both a tax and insurance perspective. For injury retirements, teams can often recover a portion of the remaining contract value through disability insurance, which would reduce the loss recognition. The insurance recovery is typically treated as ordinary income when received. For voluntary releases, it's usually a straight write-off of the remaining unamortized contract value. One wrinkle is that some leagues have injury exception rules that allow teams to remove injured players from salary cap calculations while still paying them, which creates another layer of cap vs. tax accounting differences. The timing of when you can claim the loss deduction can also vary based on whether the contract terms include guaranteed payments post-injury.
im in exactly the same boat as u right now lol. verified last thursday, status changed yesterday. from the research I've done, the change in wording is definitely step 1 of good news. Now we just gotta wait til our cycle days (I'm 05 too). Hoping we both wake up to good news tmrw!!!
Fingers crossed for both of us!! Let me know if you see anything tomorrow!
Will do! im setting my alarm for 6am to check lol š
This is exactly what happened to me! Filed in March, stuck on "still processing" forever after getting the dreaded ID verification letter. Finally verified online and within 4 days saw that same status change to "being processed." My transcript was still blank too at first, which had me worried. But sure enough, on my cycle day (Thursday morning) my transcript updated with all the codes including my DDD. Got my refund deposited exactly 5 business days later. The status change really is a good indicator that your verification went through and your return is moving again. Hang tight - Thursday morning should bring good news for you!
This gives me so much hope! It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same timeline. I keep refreshing my transcript page even though I know it won't update until tomorrow morning. The waiting is the worst part but your experience makes me feel like I'm finally on the right track. Thank you for sharing the detailed timeline - knowing it was 5 business days from transcript update to deposit helps me plan my expectations!
Have you tried checking your transcript on the IRS website? When this happened to me, I was able to see that someone had indeed filed a return using my SSN. Go to IRS.gov and access your account (or create one if you don't have it). Then view your transcript for 2022. If you see a return was filed but you didn't file it, that's confirmation of the issue.
Online transcripts saved me so much time when I had a similar issue! So much faster than calling. One thing to add - make sure you check BOTH your transcript and your spouse's. In my case, my transcript showed nothing unusual but my wife's showed someone had filed using her SSN.
This happened to me two years ago and it was absolutely panic-inducing! Turned out my ex-husband had mistakenly used my SSN as primary on his new return (we had been married filing jointly for years and he just went on autopilot). Here's what I learned from that experience: First, definitely check both your and your spouse's online transcripts as others mentioned - this will show you immediately if a return was actually filed. Second, the amendment you filed recently could be creating a temporary glitch in their system, especially if it's still processing. If the transcripts show a fraudulent return was filed, don't panic about the identity theft process - it's actually pretty straightforward once you get started. The IRS has gotten much better at handling these cases. File Form 14039 and submit your return by paper with a cover letter explaining the situation. One tip that saved me time: if you do need to call the IRS, have your spouse's information ready too since they might need to verify details about her SSN usage. And keep detailed notes of every conversation - case numbers, agent names, dates, etc. You'll likely need to reference them later in the process.
Thank you for sharing your experience! The ex-husband accidentally using your SSN makes total sense - after years of filing jointly, it's easy to see how someone could make that mistake on autopilot. Your point about keeping detailed notes is really valuable too. I'm definitely going to start a document tracking everything as I work through this process. Did you have to wait long for the identity theft case to be resolved once you filed Form 14039?
Mateo Silva
Whatever you do, avoid those "Tax Relief" places that advertise on the radio! I made that mistake and paid $3000 upfront only to discover they just filed basic paperwork I could have done myself. Total ripoff.
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Victoria Jones
ā¢I second this! Those national tax relief companies are the worst. They take thousands upfront then assign your case to the most junior person in the office. My brother got burned by one of the big names you hear advertised everywhere.
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ShadowHunter
I went through this exact situation about 18 months ago - 5 years unfiled, similar amount owed. Here's what I learned: 1. Don't panic about the amount you think you owe. My "rough calculation" was way off because I hadn't accounted for legitimate business deductions and the standard deduction increases over those years. 2. Start with getting your IRS transcripts immediately - you can request them online at irs.gov. This will show you exactly what income the IRS has on file for each year. 3. Look for an Enrolled Agent rather than a CPA if possible. EAs specialize specifically in tax issues and IRS representation. The National Association of Enrolled Agents website has a "find an EA" tool. 4. When interviewing professionals, ask specifically about their experience with multiple years of unfiled returns and how they handle penalty abatement requests. A good professional should mention First Time Penalty Abatement and reasonable cause arguments. 5. Be prepared to pay the professional fees upfront - legitimate tax professionals don't work on contingency like those scammy relief companies. The whole process took about 4 months for me, but getting it behind me was such a relief. You're smart to handle this proactively rather than waiting for the IRS to come after you.
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Leo McDonald
ā¢This is incredibly helpful, thank you! Quick question about the transcripts - when you say you can request them online, do you need to create an account with the IRS or can you just download them directly? I'm a bit nervous about setting up online access with them given my situation, but if it's the fastest way to get the information I need, I'll do it. Also, when you mention the standard deduction increases - I hadn't even thought about that! Do you remember roughly how much that helped reduce what you actually owed versus your initial estimate?
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