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Tyler Murphy

When does self employment tax kick in for side babysitting income?

I've been babysitting on the side for various families in my neighborhood for about 6 months last year. All my payments came through Venmo or cash - nothing with formal payroll. I wasn't sure if I needed to pay estimated taxes throughout the year so I didn't make any payments. Now I've added everything up and I made around $9,000 from all these babysitting gigs combined. I'm worried about getting in trouble with the IRS! I know I probably owe some self-employment tax for Medicare and Social Security, but I have no idea how to calculate it or when it actually applies. Is there a minimum threshold before self-employment tax kicks in? And now that the year is over, how do I figure out what I owe and pay it properly? I don't want the IRS getting angry with me for not handling this correctly.

Sara Unger

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Self-employment tax kicks in when your net earnings from self-employment reach $400 for the year. Since you earned about $9,000 from babysitting, you're definitely subject to self-employment tax. The self-employment tax rate is 15.3% (12.4% for Social Security and 2.9% for Medicare). However, you calculate this on your net earnings - meaning your income after subtracting any legitimate business expenses. For babysitting, this might include things like transportation costs to get to jobs, any supplies you purchased specifically for babysitting, etc. You'll need to file Schedule C to report your income and expenses, and then Schedule SE to calculate your self-employment tax. Both of these will attach to your Form 1040. Don't worry too much about not paying estimated taxes - you might face a small penalty if you owe more than $1,000, but it's not something the IRS gets "angry" about. It happens all the time with new self-employed folks!

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Thanks for this info! Just wondering - if I have a W-2 job too, does that affect how the self-employment tax works? Like if I'm already paying Social Security from my main job?

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Sara Unger

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If you have W-2 employment in addition to self-employment, the Social Security portion of self-employment tax can be affected, but only if your combined earnings exceed the Social Security wage base limit (which was $147,000 in 2022 and higher now). If you're nowhere near that threshold from your combined incomes, you'll still pay the full self-employment tax rate on your net self-employment earnings. The Medicare portion always applies regardless of how much you earn from W-2 jobs. Remember though, you can deduct half of your self-employment tax as an adjustment to income on your 1040, which helps reduce your overall tax burden a bit.

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Amy Fleming

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Just a heads up, don't forget about state taxes too! Depending on where you live, you might owe state income tax on your babysitting income as well. Most states follow similar rules to the federal government regarding self-employment, but some have different thresholds or requirements.

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Tyler Murphy

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Wait I didn't even think about state taxes! Do I need to file a separate form for that or is it all part of the same tax return?

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Amy Fleming

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It depends on your state. Most states have their own version of Schedule C that you'll fill out along with your state tax return. You'll generally use the same income and expense information that you report on your federal Schedule C. Some states also have a lower threshold for filing requirements than the federal $400 self-employment threshold, so even if you somehow made less than $400, you might still need to file a state return. Check your specific state's tax department website for the exact requirements and forms you'll need.

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Alice Pierce

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Esteban Tate

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Most tax software can definitely handle self-employment income. I used TurboTax last year for my tutoring side gig and it walked me through everything step by step. It asked about expenses and calculated all the self-employment tax automatically. Just make sure you get the Self-Employed version, not the basic one.

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