When do I need to fill out a W8-BEN form as a Canadian working in the US?
I'm a Canadian citizen who's had a few summer tech internships in the US over the past couple years. I'm planning to move to the States later this year for a full-time tech position (not sure if "full-time" is the right tax term but you get what I mean). I've kept my Bank of America account open since my last internship because the Canadian dollar isn't great right now, and it makes sense since I'm heading back soon anyway. When I was working in the US, I paid American taxes just like any local employee, plus Canadian taxes on the same money (with credits for what I paid to the US government). My bank just randomly sent me a W8-BEN form with zero explanation attached. From what I understand, this form is related to the IRS potentially taking 30% of my interest earnings as a non-resident, unless there's a tax treaty in place that says otherwise. The problem is, I have no clue what kind of treaty exists between Canada and the US, or if I even qualify for treaty benefits since all the money in my account came from US employment. If ignoring this form just means the IRS takes 30% of a few dollars in interest, whatever. But I'm worried I might be missing something important that could cause problems down the road. Any advice?
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Nia Thompson
The W8-BEN form is definitely something you should complete and return to your bank. It's basically a certification that you're not a US person for tax purposes, which affects how your bank reports your account information to the IRS. As a Canadian citizen, you do benefit from the US-Canada tax treaty. This treaty generally reduces the withholding rate on certain types of income like interest from 30% down to 0-15% depending on the specific income type. Interest is typically reduced to 0% withholding. Even though your money came from US employment, the interest earned on that money while it sits in your account is a separate type of income. That interest income is what the W8-BEN form addresses - not your employment income. The form is fairly straightforward to complete. You'll need to provide your name, country of residence (Canada), address, and identify yourself as a beneficial owner claiming treaty benefits. For the treaty article, you'd typically reference Article XI (Interest) of the US-Canada tax treaty. I'd recommend completing it soon, as banks are required to withhold at the full 30% rate if they don't have a valid W8-BEN on file for non-US account holders.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•How long is the W8-BEN valid for once you submit it? Do you have to renew it every year or something?
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Aisha Abdullah
•Wait I'm confused - if OP is coming to the US for full-time work, wouldn't they eventually be considered a US resident for tax purposes? Does the form still apply then?
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Nia Thompson
•A properly completed W8-BEN is generally valid for three years from the date of signing, unless there's a change in circumstances that makes any information on the form incorrect (like if you became a US citizen or resident alien). For your second question, you're right to consider the residency issue. Once OP becomes a US resident for tax purposes (which typically happens after meeting the substantial presence test - basically being physically present in the US for a certain number of days), they would no longer use the W8-BEN. At that point, they would need to inform their bank of their change in status. The bank might then request a W-9 form instead, which is for US persons. But until that residency status changes, the W8-BEN is the correct form to use.
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Ethan Wilson
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NeonNova
•Does it work for other countries too? I'm from the UK and completely lost with all these US tax forms.
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Yuki Tanaka
•How did you handle state taxes when you first moved? I'm moving from Vancouver to California soon and heard state taxes are a whole separate nightmare.
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Ethan Wilson
•Yes, it absolutely works for other countries! I have a friend from the UK who used it too. The system identifies your specific country and then pulls the correct tax treaty articles based on that. The UK-US treaty is different from the Canada-US one, but taxr.ai has all those treaties in their system. State taxes are definitely a separate challenge! When I moved from Toronto to Seattle, I was lucky because Washington doesn't have state income tax. For California, taxr.ai actually helped explain my state tax obligations too - they have a specific section for state-specific guidance. California is particularly aggressive with taxation, so having documentation that shows exactly when your tax residency begins is super important. The system helps create that paper trail.
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NeonNova
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Carmen Diaz
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Andre Laurent
•Does this actually work? The IRS international line is basically impossible to get through. Last time I tried I was on hold for 2 hours before getting disconnected.
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Emily Jackson
•This seems like it might not be legit... How does it actually work? Do you have to give them personal info? Seems risky to give a third party access to your IRS business.
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Carmen Diaz
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Emily Jackson
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Liam Mendez
On the W8-BEN form, make sure you put the right treaty article number. For Canadians receiving interest income, it's usually Article XI. Also double check if your province has any specific provisions - some have slight differences in how things are treated.
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Luca Esposito
•Do you happen to know if there's any difference for Quebec residents? I've heard they sometimes have different tax rules from other provinces.
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Liam Mendez
•Quebec does have some unique tax situations compared to other provinces, but for the W8-BEN form specifically, the same treaty article (Article XI) applies regardless of which Canadian province you're from. The US-Canada tax treaty is federal-level, so it doesn't change based on your province. Where Quebec residents might experience differences is in how they report their foreign income on their provincial tax returns, as Quebec has its own separate tax administration (Revenu Québec) unlike other provinces that use the federal CRA system. But this doesn't affect how you fill out your W8-BEN for the US bank.
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Sophia Nguyen
Just wondering - does having a SSN from your internships change anything about how you fill out the W8-BEN? I got a social when I worked in the US last summer.
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Jacob Smithson
•If you have a US SSN, you should definitely include it on your W8-BEN form. It helps with accurate reporting and makes things much smoother. It doesn't change your non-resident status though.
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Christopher Morgan
Just to add one more perspective here - don't stress too much about the W8-BEN form. It's actually pretty straightforward once you understand what it's for. The key thing to remember is that this form is specifically about the interest income your bank account generates, not your employment income. Since you're Canadian, you'll definitely benefit from the tax treaty. The US-Canada treaty eliminates withholding on bank interest entirely (0% instead of 30%), so filling out this form will actually save you money on any interest you earn. One thing I'd suggest is to keep a copy of your completed W8-BEN for your records. When you do eventually become a US tax resident (which sounds like it'll happen soon with your full-time move), you'll need to notify your bank and switch to providing them with a W-9 form instead. Having documentation of when you made that transition can be helpful for tax purposes. The form itself is valid for 3 years, but your circumstances are changing, so you'll likely need to update it sooner than that. Good luck with your move!
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