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Amara Okafor

What's the total tax burden for an average American citizen in 2025?

I've been trying to figure out my real tax burden recently and it got me thinking - has anybody calculated how much the average American actually pays in ALL taxes combined? Not just federal income tax, but everything...state taxes, sales tax, property tax, gas taxes, all those hidden import taxes we pay on products, capital gains, etc. It feels like taxes are taking a huge chunk of my paycheck and then nibbling away at whatever's left every time I buy something or own something. I'm curious if there's been a legit study that breaks down the true tax burden for regular people. I'm not trying to complain about taxes - I get that we need them for roads and schools and stuff. Just want to understand the full picture of what we're really paying. Any insights or links to research would be super helpful!

The total tax burden for the average American is around 29.6% of income when you factor in all taxes. This includes federal income tax, state/local income taxes, sales tax, property tax, gas tax, and other excise taxes. The Tax Foundation does comprehensive studies on this. They found that Americans spend more on taxes than they do on food, clothing, and housing combined. When you break it down, federal income taxes make up about 14-15% for the middle class, with state/local income taxes adding another 4-6% depending on where you live. Sales taxes take roughly 2-5% of income, property taxes about 3-4% (directly or through rent), and gas/excise taxes another 2-3%. The percentages vary widely based on income level, state of residence, and spending habits. Someone in a high-tax state like California or New York might pay significantly more than someone in Texas or Florida with no state income tax.

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Thanks for the breakdown! Do these numbers include payroll taxes like Social Security and Medicare? Also, do you know if corporate taxes ultimately get passed on to consumers through higher prices?

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The 29.6% figure does include payroll taxes (Social Security and Medicare), which are about 7.65% for employees, plus another 7.65% paid by employers on your behalf. Most economists believe that employer portion effectively comes out of your wages too. Regarding corporate taxes, yes, a portion definitely gets passed on to consumers through higher prices. The exact amount is debated among economists, but studies suggest anywhere from 30-70% of corporate tax costs are ultimately borne by consumers, with the remainder falling on shareholders and employees through lower wages. So while you don't see "corporate tax" on your receipt, you're indirectly paying some of it whenever you purchase goods or services.

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How does this work exactly? Does it just look at your income or does it somehow track all your purchases throughout the year too? Seems impossible to calculate all the sales tax I pay unless I keep every single receipt.

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I'm skeptical about this. How can any software accurately calculate all the indirect taxes we pay? What about taxes built into product prices or services? Sounds like it would just be a rough estimate at best.

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I read somewhere that the average American works until April 16-19th each year just to pay their taxes (Tax Freedom Day). That's like 30% of your year working just to pay the government! And that calculation doesn't even include the regulatory compliance costs that businesses pass onto us as consumers. When you add all that in, it's probably closer to 40% of our income going to taxes in some form.

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That Tax Freedom Day thing is misleading though. It lumps everyone together, but lower income people generally pay a much smaller percentage while higher income folks pay more. Do you know if that stat is calculating the mean or the median American? Makes a huge difference.

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You're right that Tax Freedom Day is an average across all Americans, so it varies significantly depending on income level. It's calculated as total tax revenue divided by total national income - so it's closer to a mean than a median. Lower income Americans might reach their personal Tax Freedom Day in February or March, while higher income Americans might not reach it until May or even June in high-tax states. The national average masks these differences. The Tax Foundation usually publishes state-by-state Tax Freedom Days too, which shows how much variation exists based on where you live - the difference can be as much as 3-4 weeks between low-tax and high-tax states.

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Has anyone calculated how much we pay in "hidden taxes" that don't show up on any tax form? Like inflation (basically a tax on savings), or the higher prices we pay because of tariffs and import taxes? I feel like there's a whole shadow tax system that nobody talks about.

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Inflation is a huge hidden tax! My savings have lost like 20% of their purchasing power in the past few years. Also, regulations that drive up prices are basically taxes too. The American Action Forum estimated regulatory compliance costs at like $14,000 per household annually a couple years ago.

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Great question! I've been down this rabbit hole myself and the numbers are pretty eye-opening. The Congressional Budget Office actually tracks effective tax rates across different income groups, and for middle-income households (21st-60th percentile), the total federal tax rate is around 14-16%. But that's just federal. When you add state and local taxes, the picture gets more complex. According to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, middle-income families pay about 9-12% in state and local taxes on average, though this varies wildly by state. States like Washington rely heavily on sales taxes (hitting lower incomes harder), while states like California have high income taxes but lower sales tax rates. The tricky part is capturing ALL the indirect taxes. Beyond the obvious ones mentioned here, there are things like: - Excise taxes on alcohol, tobacco, phone bills - Hotel occupancy taxes when you travel - Licensing fees and registration costs - Taxes embedded in utility bills - Even things like lottery taxes (if you play) Most comprehensive studies I've seen put the total tax burden for middle-class Americans somewhere between 25-35% of income, depending on your state, spending habits, and how you count indirect taxes. The Tax Foundation's methodology is probably the most thorough for getting a realistic picture.

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This is really helpful! I'm curious about those embedded utility taxes you mentioned - I never realized those were a thing. Do you know roughly what percentage of our utility bills are actually taxes? Also, when you say 25-35% total burden, does that include the employer portion of payroll taxes that economists say comes out of our wages anyway?

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Great breakdown! Utility taxes are definitely sneaky - they can add anywhere from 5-15% to your electric, gas, and phone bills depending on your location. In some cities, there are municipal utility taxes, state gross receipts taxes on utilities, federal excise taxes on phone services, plus various "fees" that are essentially taxes by another name. The 25-35% range I mentioned does include the employer portion of payroll taxes, since most economists agree that gets passed through to workers as lower wages. So that's the full 15.3% for Social Security and Medicare (7.65% you see + 7.65% your employer pays), not just the portion on your paystub. One thing I didn't mention that adds to the burden: if you own a home, you're also paying taxes embedded in your homeowner's insurance premiums, and if you have kids, there are often hidden taxes in school fees and various municipal charges that don't show up as "taxes" but function the same way. The rabbit hole goes pretty deep once you start looking for all the ways government extracts revenue!

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This is such an important question that more Americans should be asking! I've been tracking my own tax burden for the past few years and was shocked to discover I'm paying nearly 32% when everything is included. What really opened my eyes was realizing how many taxes we pay without even thinking about them. Beyond the obvious federal/state income taxes and sales tax, there are so many hidden ones: the taxes built into your rent (landlords pass property taxes through), taxes on your cell phone bill, gas taxes every time you fill up, even taxes embedded in the price of everything you buy due to corporate taxes being passed on to consumers. One thing that helped me get a clearer picture was actually going through a full year of bank and credit card statements to see where my money was really going. I found taxes and fees I didn't even know existed - like gross receipts taxes that utilities pay and pass on to us, or the various municipal fees that are basically taxes by another name. The variation by state is huge too. Moving from a high-tax state to a low-tax state can literally save you thousands per year, but you have to look at the total picture - some states with no income tax make up for it with higher sales taxes and fees that can actually hit middle-class families harder. It's definitely worth doing the math for your own situation rather than relying on national averages, since your actual burden depends so much on where you live and how you spend your money.

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This is exactly why I started looking into this topic! The hidden nature of so many taxes makes it really hard to understand what we're actually paying. Your point about rent including property taxes is something I never considered - as a renter, I assumed I wasn't paying property taxes, but of course landlords factor that into rent prices. The state variation aspect is fascinating too. I've been thinking about relocating and always just looked at income tax rates, but you're right that you need the full picture. A state with no income tax might hit you harder on sales tax if you're a big spender, or have higher vehicle registration fees, utility taxes, etc. Have you found any good tools or methods for tracking all these different categories? It sounds like manually going through statements worked for you, but I'm wondering if there's a more systematic way to capture everything without spending weeks on spreadsheets.

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@ac68532f8d25 For tracking all these different tax categories systematically, I've found a few approaches that work well. First, I set up a simple spreadsheet with categories like Federal Income, State Income, Payroll, Property (direct or through rent), Sales Tax, Gas Tax, Utility Taxes, etc. Then I use my online banking to export transaction data and categorize spending - this helps estimate sales taxes since most banks let you filter by merchant type. For gas taxes, I just multiply gallons purchased by the federal + state rate. Property taxes are easy if you own (tax bill) or can be estimated as 25-30% of rent if you're a renter. The trickier ones like embedded corporate taxes in products require using estimates from research organizations. I usually just apply a 2-3% factor to most purchases since studies suggest that's roughly what gets passed through to consumers. It's definitely more work up front, but once you have the system set up, it only takes a couple hours every few months to update. And honestly, seeing the real numbers has motivated me to make some changes - like moving to a lower sales tax county and being more strategic about timing large purchases around tax-free weekends. The eye-opening part is realizing that even "small" taxes like the $2-3 in various fees on your phone bill add up to real money over a year!

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This thread has been incredibly enlightening! As someone who's always just looked at my paycheck and assumed that was my tax burden, I had no idea about all these hidden layers. The breakdown showing we might be paying 25-35% total really puts things in perspective. What strikes me most is how these taxes are designed to be invisible - like the employer portion of payroll taxes that economists say comes out of our wages anyway, or corporate taxes embedded in prices. It's almost like the system is set up to make it hard for regular people to understand what they're actually paying. I'm definitely going to try some of the tracking methods mentioned here. The idea of going through bank statements to categorize spending and estimate sales taxes seems doable, and I never thought about things like utility taxes or the property taxes embedded in rent. One question for those who've done this analysis - have you found that understanding your real tax burden has changed how you make financial decisions? Like choosing where to live, what to buy, or how to structure your finances?

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@77a3a82892dc Absolutely! Understanding my real tax burden completely changed how I approach major financial decisions. Once I realized I was paying over 30% when everything was included, I started looking at purchases differently - especially big ones. For housing, I now factor in the total tax implications. When I was house hunting, I didn't just look at the mortgage payment but also property taxes, state income tax differences between counties, and even local sales tax rates. It's crazy how much variation there is even within the same metro area. I also became much more strategic about timing purchases. Now I plan major buying around tax-free weekends, shop across state lines when it makes sense (like buying a car in a state with lower registration fees), and even consider the tax implications of subscription services vs one-time purchases. The biggest eye-opener was realizing how much geographic arbitrage matters for taxes. Just moving 30 minutes away to a different county or state can save thousands annually when you account for all the different tax layers. It's made me think about retirement planning differently too - your dollar goes way further in some states than others when you factor in the total tax burden. It's honestly frustrating that this information isn't more transparent. Most people have no idea what they're really paying, which makes it hard to make informed decisions about where to live and how to structure your finances.

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This conversation has really highlighted how complex the true tax burden calculation is! I've been doing some research after reading through everyone's experiences, and I found that the Bureau of Labor Statistics actually tracks consumer expenditure patterns that can help estimate total tax burden more accurately. What's particularly interesting is how much the burden varies not just by income level and state, but by life stage. Young renters might pay more in sales taxes as a percentage of income since they're building up households, while older homeowners might pay more in property taxes but less in payroll taxes if they're retired. One aspect I haven't seen mentioned yet is how tax policy changes affect this calculation year to year. The 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act changed federal income tax rates, but it also capped state and local tax deductions, which effectively increased the burden for people in high-tax states. And with various COVID-related tax changes, stimulus payments, and now inflation, the numbers are probably shifting pretty significantly. For anyone wanting to get serious about tracking this, I'd recommend starting with the IRS Statistics of Income data as a baseline for your income bracket, then adjusting for your specific state and spending patterns. The Tax Foundation's methodology is solid, but personalizing it to your actual situation will give you the most actionable insights. It's fascinating how this "simple" question opens up such a complex web of policy implications!

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@ce3be8be9f13 This is such a great point about how life stage affects tax burden! I'm in my early 30s and just starting to realize how much my tax situation has changed as I've moved from being a student to renter to homeowner. When I was renting and buying everything new for my first apartment, I was probably paying way more in sales taxes. Now as a homeowner, property taxes are a much bigger chunk. Your point about policy changes is spot on too. I remember thinking I got a tax break from the 2017 changes, but then realized I lost some deductions that actually made my overall burden higher. It's like playing whack-a-mole - they lower one tax but raise fees somewhere else, or cap deductions that effectively increase what you pay. The inflation aspect is huge right now too. Even if tax rates stayed the same, everything costs more so we're paying more sales tax, gas tax, etc. just to maintain the same lifestyle. Plus if you're in a state that doesn't index tax brackets for inflation, you get pushed into higher brackets even if your purchasing power didn't actually increase. Really appreciate everyone sharing their research methods in this thread. I'm definitely going to start tracking this more systematically. It seems like the only way to make informed financial decisions is to understand the full picture of what you're actually paying.

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This has been such an eye-opening discussion! As someone who just finished filing taxes and was shocked by how much I actually paid when I added everything up, I really appreciate everyone sharing their research and methods. What really hit home for me was the point about how taxes are designed to be invisible. I never realized that when I pay rent, I'm indirectly paying property taxes, or that a chunk of every purchase includes embedded corporate taxes. It's like there's this whole shadow tax system that operates behind the scenes. I'm particularly interested in the geographic arbitrage aspect that several people mentioned. I'm considering a job change and have been looking at salary differences between cities, but I never thought to factor in the total tax burden differences. A $10K salary increase might not mean much if I'm paying $8K more in combined state, local, and sales taxes. The tracking methods shared here seem really practical too. I like the idea of setting up categories and using bank transaction data to estimate sales tax payments. It's more work upfront, but understanding where your money actually goes seems crucial for making informed financial decisions. One thing I'm curious about - for those who've done this analysis, have you found any surprising patterns in your spending or tax burden that led to meaningful changes in your lifestyle or financial planning?

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@d60d4c05b85b Your point about geographic arbitrage really resonates with me! I actually went through this exact analysis when I was considering relocating last year. What I discovered was mind-blowing - a job offer that was $15K higher in a different state would have actually left me with LESS take-home money after accounting for the total tax picture. The most surprising pattern I found was how much my transportation choices were costing me in taxes. Between gas taxes, vehicle registration fees, tolls, and even parking meters (which are essentially local taxes), I was spending almost $2,400 annually just in transportation-related taxes and fees. This motivated me to move closer to public transit and bike to work more often. Another shocker was utility taxes. I started reading my bills more carefully and found I was paying about $180 per year just in various taxes and fees on electric, gas, water, and phone services. Doesn't sound like much until you realize that's money that could go toward an emergency fund or retirement. The analysis also made me completely rethink my shopping habits. I now do major purchases during tax-free weekends, buy certain items online from states with better tax rates (when legal), and even plan grocery shopping around sales tax differences between nearby cities. These small changes have saved me hundreds annually. Most importantly, understanding the full picture helped me negotiate better when job hunting - I now evaluate offers based on after-tax purchasing power rather than just gross salary numbers.

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This discussion has been absolutely fascinating! As someone who's always felt like taxes were eating away at my income but never knew the exact numbers, reading through everyone's experiences has been a real wake-up call. The 29-34% range that keeps coming up is honestly shocking - that means we're working roughly 1 out of every 3 days just to pay taxes in various forms. What really gets me is how fragmented and hidden so much of it is. Your paycheck shows federal and state income tax, but then you get nickel-and-dimed with sales tax on everything you buy, property taxes buried in your rent, gas taxes every time you fill up, and apparently even taxes embedded in your utility bills that I never knew existed. I'm definitely going to start tracking this more systematically using some of the methods shared here. The idea of categorizing bank transactions to estimate sales tax and looking at utility bills more carefully seems like a good starting point. What strikes me most is how this information isn't readily available or taught anywhere. Most people probably have no idea what their real tax burden is, which makes it impossible to make informed decisions about where to live, how to spend money, or how to plan financially. It's almost like the complexity is intentional to keep us from realizing how much we're actually paying. Thanks to everyone who shared their research and tracking methods - this thread should be required reading for anyone trying to understand their actual financial situation!

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