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Amelia Dietrich

What's required when cancelling an EIN for dissolved LLCs and handling final tax returns?

So I've got a bit of a situation with two LLCs that haven't been operating at all this year. One of them already got administratively dissolved (basically the state shut it down for me), and I'm in the process of filing articles of dissolution for the second one. Someone told me that for this second LLC, I would need to cancel the EIN with the IRS. But I'm not really sure what's involved with that. I've got two main questions: 1) Do I really need to go through the process of cancelling the EIN, or can I just dissolve the LLC with the state and be done with it? 2) Do I still have to file tax returns for these LLCs even though they've done literally zero business this year? They're set up as S-Corps, and my accountant is saying I'd have to file taxes for them regardless and it's going to cost around $850 each to file them! That seems ridiculous for companies that made $0. I'm trying to close these down properly without spending a fortune. Any advice would be super helpful!

Kaiya Rivera

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This is a common question when wrapping up business entities. Let me clarify both points for you: 1) Regarding the EIN cancellation - technically, you don't "cancel" an EIN. Once issued, an EIN belongs to that business entity forever, even after the business closes. What you should do is send a letter to the IRS indicating that the LLC has been dissolved or terminated. Include the legal name of the entity, the EIN, and the reason for closing. This helps the IRS update their records to show the business is no longer active, which prevents unnecessary notices or complications down the road. 2) For tax returns - Yes, unfortunately, you do need to file final tax returns for your S-Corps even with zero business activity. Since you elected S-Corp status, you're required to file Form 1120-S for each entity's final year. On these returns, you'll check the "final return" box. While $850 per entity does seem steep, there is quite a bit of work involved in properly closing an S-Corp, including preparing K-1s for shareholders (even with zero income/loss).

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Quick follow-up question - is there a specific form for notifying the IRS about the dissolution, or just a regular letter? And what about state tax returns... do those need to be filed as final returns too?

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Kaiya Rivera

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There's no specific IRS form for notifying them about the dissolution - a simple letter with your business details is sufficient. Include your business name, EIN, and a statement that the business has closed, along with the effective date of dissolution. For state tax returns, yes, you'll typically need to file final state returns as well. Requirements vary by state, but most states require a final return with a "final return" indicator. Some states may also require specific dissolution or withdrawal forms related to taxes. It's worth checking with your state's department of revenue or taxation website for their specific requirements.

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Noah Irving

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Vanessa Chang

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How does this work exactly? Do they have actual tax pros reviewing your stuff or is it all automated? I'm closing a small consulting LLC and nervous about missing something important.

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Madison King

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Is it worth it for super small businesses though? My LLC literally just had one client and like $15k in revenue before I closed it. Seems like overkill for something so simple.

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Noah Irving

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Vanessa Chang

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Julian Paolo

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Ella Knight

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Does this actually work? The IRS business line is notorious for being impossible to get through. I've literally tried calling at 7am when they open and still couldn't get through. Seems too good to be true.

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This sounds sketchy. How are they getting priority access to the IRS? Wouldn't everyone use this if it worked? I tried calling about my EIN last month and gave up after being on hold for 2 hours.

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Julian Paolo

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Yes, it absolutely works. They don't have any special "priority access" - they just have an automated system that calls the IRS and navigates through all the phone menus, then stays on hold so you don't have to. When a human agent finally answers, their system calls your phone and connects you directly to that agent. It's basically just outsourcing the hold time. I was skeptical too, but after trying to reach the IRS myself for three weeks, I gave it a shot. Got connected to an agent within about 2 hours without having to sit by my phone. The agent was able to confirm they received my EIN notification letter and updated their records to show my business was closed. Completely worth it to get that confirmation.

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I have to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it since I was desperate to confirm whether I needed to file quarterly reports for my dissolved LLC. Their system called me back in about 90 minutes with an actual IRS agent on the line. The agent confirmed I need to file a final 1120-S even with zero activity, but I don't need to "cancel" the EIN - just notify them of the dissolution. They also told me I could file Form 1120-S myself using the free fillable forms if my situation was simple (no transactions), which could save me the $850 fee from an accountant. I'm usually the last person to recommend services, but this genuinely saved me hours of frustration and actually got me answers directly from the IRS.

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - if your S-Corps had any assets, even minimal ones, you need to document what happened to them in your final return. I learned this the hard way when dissolving my small design firm last year. Even though we'd essentially stopped operations, we still had a company laptop and some software licenses. The IRS considers the distribution of these assets to shareholders as a sale at fair market value, which can create taxable gain. My accountant charged extra because we had to determine values for everything.

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Thanks for bringing this up! Actually, the LLCs didn't have any physical assets at all. One was just a holding company and the other was for consulting that never really got off the ground. Does that simplify things, or are there still "hidden" assets I might not be thinking about?

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That definitely simplifies things! With no physical assets, you avoid the whole asset distribution complexity. Just make sure you've closed any business bank accounts and properly documented that there were zero assets on the final balance sheet. One thing to watch for though - if you had any business licenses, domain names, or intellectual property, those technically could be considered assets. But in a simple consulting LLC that never got going, you probably don't have much to worry about. Your final returns should be much more straightforward than what I dealt with.

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Jade Santiago

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Hey I've dealt with this exact situation. If your LLCs are just holding companies or consulting entities with no assets, you're in a much better position than most. One thing to consider is using IRS Form 966 (Corporate Dissolution or Liquidation) along with your final 1120-S returns. It's not technically required for S-Corps but can help document the dissolution properly. Also, your accountant's fee of $850 seems high for entities with no activity. Might be worth shopping around - I found an accountant who specialized in business closures and charged me $375 for my final S-Corp return with zero activity.

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Caleb Stone

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Form 966 is for C-Corps, not S-Corps. Using that form for an S-Corp dissolution could actually cause confusion. S-Corp owners just need to file the final 1120-S with the final return box checked and zeroes in all the relevant fields.

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Just went through this exact process with my consulting LLC that elected S-Corp status. A few key points that might help: 1) You're absolutely right to be frustrated about the $850 fee for zero-activity returns, but unfortunately it's required. However, you can significantly reduce costs by doing some of the prep work yourself. Since you had no business activity, your Form 1120-S will basically be all zeros except for basic entity information. 2) For the EIN notification, I sent a simple letter to the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line at the Cincinnati processing center. Include your business name, EIN, date of dissolution, and a brief statement that the entity has been dissolved. Keep a copy for your records. 3) Don't forget about your state requirements - many states require a final franchise tax return even with zero activity, and some have specific dissolution tax forms. The penalties for missing these can be worse than just filing them. 4) One money-saving tip: if both LLCs are in the same state and have similar structures, see if your accountant will give you a discount for preparing both final returns together. Mine knocked off about 20% for the second entity since most of the work was duplicated. The whole process is definitely a pain for inactive businesses, but better to close them properly than deal with ongoing compliance issues down the road.

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Mateo Silva

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This is really helpful, especially the tip about getting a discount for multiple entities! I'm definitely going to ask my accountant about that since both LLCs have identical situations. One question about the EIN notification letter - did you send it certified mail or just regular mail? I want to make sure there's some record that the IRS received it, especially since I've heard horror stories about the IRS claiming they never got important documents. Also, do you remember roughly how long it took to get confirmation that they processed your notification, or did you just assume it went through after sending it?

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Carmen Flores

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I sent mine certified mail with return receipt requested - definitely worth the extra few dollars for peace of mind! The IRS doesn't typically send back a confirmation letter, but the certified mail receipt shows they received it. I also kept copies of everything (the letter, certified mail receipt, and my state dissolution documents) in one folder in case I ever need to prove I properly closed the businesses. Never got any follow-up from the IRS, which I took as a good sign. For what it's worth, I also called the IRS business line about 6 months later (using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier) just to double-check that my EIN showed as "inactive" in their system. The agent confirmed they had my notification on file and the business was properly closed in their records. Made me feel much better about the whole process.

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Daniela Rossi

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I'm going through a similar situation right now with my small consulting LLC that I'm dissolving. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - especially learning that you don't actually "cancel" an EIN but just notify the IRS of the dissolution. One thing I wanted to add that might help others: if you're looking to save money on the final tax returns, consider asking your accountant if they offer a flat fee for "zero activity" final returns. I found one who charges $275 for S-Corp final returns when there's literally no business activity to report - just filling in the basic entity info and checking the "final return" box. Also, for anyone else dealing with this, make sure you check if your state has any annual report filings that need to be completed before dissolution. I almost missed my state's final annual report, which would have kept the entity technically "active" even after filing articles of dissolution. The certified mail suggestion for the EIN notification letter is spot on too - that return receipt is your proof that the IRS received your notification. Worth every penny for the peace of mind.

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GalacticGuru

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That's a great point about the annual reports! I completely forgot about those when I was planning my dissolution timeline. Quick question - did you have to file the final annual report before submitting the articles of dissolution, or could you do them simultaneously? I'm worried about timing this wrong and creating unnecessary complications. Also, $275 for a zero-activity final return sounds much more reasonable than the $850 quote the original poster got. Mind sharing what region you found that accountant in, or if they work remotely? I'm in a similar boat and would love to save some money on what should be a pretty straightforward filing.

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