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Dmitry Petrov

How do I properly close an EIN account for my defunct LLC? Do I need to file a final return?

I had a small LLC with just me and my business partner back in the day. We got our EIN in 2017 and operated as a pass-through entity with no employees. In 2018, we actually made some money and split the earnings - my accountant filed Form 1065 for that year. Then in 2019, the business completely flatlined - zero activity, no expenses, no income, absolutely nothing. My accountant told me we didn't need to file anything for the LLC that year since there was nothing to report. We officially dissolved the LLC through our state in 2020, but I just realized I never properly closed the EIN account with the IRS! I've already mailed in a request to close the EIN account, but I'm wondering if there's anything else I need to do on the tax filing front before they'll process it. I managed to get through to an IRS agent who confirmed there's no balance on the account and said that as long as I sent the entity department a letter informing them the business is closed, they should be able to close it. My question is - I've seen mentions of filing a "final return" when closing a business. Do I need to file some kind of final return for the LLC even though the last year we had any activity was 2018? Or is just sending the letter to close the EIN sufficient at this point?

StarSurfer

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When closing an LLC with an EIN, you generally need to file a "final return" for the tax year in which your business stopped operating. Based on what you've described, your accountant was correct that no filing was needed for 2019 since there was no activity. For an LLC taxed as a partnership (Form 1065), you would typically check the "Final return" box on the last Form 1065 you file. Since your last filing was for 2018 and there was no activity after that, you technically should have filed a final 1065 for 2019 with zeros and checked that "Final return" box, but many people don't realize this. At this point, since it's been several years and there's no balance due, the IRS will likely process your EIN closure request without requiring a final return. The IRS agent didn't mention any missing returns, which is a good sign. The letter you sent requesting EIN closure should be sufficient, but keep a copy of all correspondence for your records.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! Do you think I should proactively file that final 1065 for 2019 now just to be safe, even though it's years later? Or would that potentially create more complications than it's worth?

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StarSurfer

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I wouldn't recommend filing a late 1065 at this point unless the IRS specifically requests it. Since there was no activity and no tax impact, and the IRS agent didn't indicate any issues with your account, filing now could potentially flag your account for unnecessary review. The purpose of the final return is mainly to notify the IRS that the business is closed and no further returns will be filed. Since you've already sent the letter requesting EIN closure which serves the same purpose, you've essentially covered the notification requirement. Just keep documentation of your state filing for LLC dissolution and the EIN closure request for your records.

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Miguel Castro

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I went through this exact situation with my LLC last year. One thing to watch out for - if you ever had ANY kind of tax election for your LLC (like S-Corp status), you might need to formally revoke that election when closing the EIN. My accountant didn't catch this, and I ended up getting a notice about "missing returns" a year after I thought everything was closed. Turns out I needed to file Form 8832 to change my entity classification back before closing. Might not apply to your situation since you were always a partnership, but something to be aware of!

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Dmitry Petrov

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I don't think we ever made any special elections - we were always just a simple pass-through partnership. But that's a good thing to double-check. Is there a way to confirm what elections might be in effect for an EIN?

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You can verify any tax elections by calling the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933. When you get through, request your "entity control information" and they can tell you exactly how your LLC is classified and any elections that are in effect. For most simple LLCs that never filed anything special, you're probably fine. But if you or your accountant ever filed forms like 2553 (S-Corp election) or 8832 (entity classification election), you'll want to address those specifically. In my case, I had elected S-Corp status years earlier and forgot all about it!

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Paolo Moretti

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Simple question - did you have a business bank account for this LLC? If so, make sure that's properly closed too before finalizing the EIN closure. I made the mistake of closing my EIN while my business checking account was still open, and it caused a real mess with the bank later on since they required an active EIN for business accounts.

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Amina Diop

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Good point! Also check if you had any business credit cards, vendor accounts, or state tax accounts (like sales tax permits) that need to be closed separately. Those don't automatically close when you dissolve the LLC or close the EIN.

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