What's required for tracking cost basis of investments in IRA, Roth, and 401(k) retirement accounts?

You're making this way harder than it needs to be! For tax-advantaged retirement accounts (traditional IRAs, Roth IRAs, 401(k)s, and Roth 401(k)s), you generally do NOT need to track the cost basis of individual investments within the accounts. The IRS primarily cares about the money going in (contributions) and coming out (distributions). For traditional IRAs and 401(k)s, you'll pay ordinary income tax on withdrawals regardless of how the investments performed inside the account. For Roth accounts, qualified withdrawals are tax-free regardless of growth. So in both cases, the performance of individual investments doesn't matter for tax purposes. The exception is if you have non-deductible traditional IRA contributions - then you need Form 8606 to track your basis in the IRA as a whole (not individual investments) to avoid double taxation when you withdraw.

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Just to add a bit more detail from my experience as someone who's been managing self-directed accounts for years - the only time you need to worry about tracking investments within retirement accounts is if you have prohibited transactions or certain alternative investments like collectibles or life insurance. Those can trigger special tax treatment. Regular stocks, bonds, mutual funds, ETFs etc. don't need individual basis tracking regardless of account type.

Has anyone here actually been audited on retirement account basis issues? I'm wondering how strict the IRS really is about this stuff in practice. My records from my old 401k from 2010-2015 are incomplete at best...

This is such a common confusion point and you're definitely not alone in feeling overwhelmed by retirement account paperwork! The good news is that for most retirement accounts (traditional/Roth IRAs, 401(k)s, 403(b)s), you do NOT need to track the cost basis of individual investments within the accounts. The tax treatment is based on the account type itself, not the performance of investments inside it. The key things to track are: - Total contributions to each account by year - Whether contributions were deductible or non-deductible (especially important for traditional IRAs if you ever exceeded income limits) - Any conversions between account types - Distributions you take For self-directed 401(k)s, nothing changes from a record-keeping perspective - you still only need to track the money going in and out of the account, not individual investment transactions. The self-directed feature just gives you more investment options but doesn't create additional tax reporting requirements. One exception to keep in mind: if you have employer stock in your 401(k) and might use the Net Unrealized Appreciation strategy, then tracking the basis of those specific shares becomes important. But for regular investments like mutual funds, ETFs, stocks, etc., you're all set with just tracking contributions and distributions.

This thread has been incredibly helpful! I've been dealing with a similar situation where I have multiple retirement accounts from different employers over the years, and I was definitely overcomplicating things. Just to confirm my understanding based on what everyone has shared: for my traditional 401(k), Roth IRA, and old 403(b), I only need to keep track of my annual contributions and any distributions I take, correct? I don't need to maintain records of every mutual fund purchase, dividend reinvestment, or rebalancing transaction within these accounts? The only exception would be if I had made any non-deductible contributions to a traditional IRA (which I don't think I have), or if I had company stock that I might want to use the NUA strategy with (which I also don't have). It's such a relief to know I can probably throw away boxes of old investment statements and just focus on the annual contribution summaries and 1099-Rs. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is awesome!

Great thread! I wanted to add one more practical tip for anyone dealing with missing records from old accounts. If you're missing contribution history from previous employers' 401(k) plans, you can often get this information from: 1. Your Social Security Administration records (they track your W-2 earnings and 401(k) deferrals) 2. Old tax returns - your 401(k) contributions should be reflected in the "retirement plan" box on your W-2s 3. The plan administrator or recordkeeper, even if you no longer work there (they're required to maintain records) I had to reconstruct my contribution history from 2008-2012 when I switched jobs and lost some paperwork. The SSA records were incredibly helpful and showed exactly what I had contributed each year. Just go to ssa.gov and create an account to access your earnings history. Also worth noting - if you ever do need to prove your basis in retirement accounts (like for non-deductible IRA contributions), the IRS generally accepts reasonable reconstructions if you can show you made a good faith effort to maintain records. They understand that people change jobs and sometimes lose paperwork over the years.

I'm dealing with a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly enlightening! I've been stressing about keeping every single investment statement from my 403(b) and traditional IRA going back years, but it sounds like I'm creating unnecessary work for myself. One thing I'm still a bit unclear on - when people mention tracking "contributions," are we talking about just the total amount I put in each year, or do I also need to track things like employer matching contributions separately? My employer matches 50% of my contributions up to 6% of my salary, and I wasn't sure if that matching amount needs special tracking. Also, I've done a couple of in-service withdrawals from my 401(k) for hardship reasons over the years. I assume those would count as "distributions" that I need to keep records of, even though I didn't fully cash out the account? Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything important while I'm simplifying my record keeping!

This is exactly the kind of question I had when I first started getting serious about retirement planning! You're definitely not alone in feeling overwhelmed by all the paperwork. The consensus here is absolutely correct - for most retirement accounts, you only need to track contributions and distributions, not individual investment performance within the accounts. I learned this the hard way after keeping every single trade confirmation for years thinking I needed them for taxes. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet: if you're considering consolidating some of your old accounts, now might be a good time while you're organizing everything. I had three different 401(k)s from previous employers just sitting there, and rolling them into a single IRA made my record-keeping so much simpler. Just make sure to do direct rollovers to avoid any tax complications. For your self-directed 401(k) question - go for it! The investment flexibility is amazing and as others have confirmed, it doesn't create any additional tax paperwork burden. You'll still just track money in and money out, regardless of whether you're picking individual stocks or just buying index funds. The key insight that changed everything for me was realizing that the account TYPE determines the tax treatment, not what's inside the account. Once you get that, retirement account taxes become so much more manageable.