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Fatima Al-Hashemi

What is the minimum AFR for a family mortgage loan that won't be considered a gift?

My parents are planning to help me buy my first house by offering me a family mortgage loan. We want to make sure the interest rate is high enough that the IRS won't consider it a gift, but also as low as legally possible to help me out. We're looking at the AFRs (Applicable Federal Rates) for April, but we're confused about which one to use. I see the monthly long-term AFR is 1.72%, but there's also this adjusted long-term AFR at 1.31%. I'd obviously prefer the lower rate if it's allowable! My dad's accountant says we need to use the monthly long-term AFR (1.72%), but my financial advisor thinks we might be able to use the adjusted rate. I've been searching online but can't find a clear explanation of what the adjusted AFR is actually used for. Can anyone explain which rate we should be using for a family mortgage loan? And what exactly is the adjusted AFR for if not for this situation? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

For a family mortgage loan, you'll want to use the Applicable Federal Rate (AFR) that corresponds to the term of your loan. Since a mortgage is typically long-term (more than 9 years), you'd use the long-term AFR. The regular monthly long-term AFR (1.72% in your case) is the correct rate to use, not the adjusted AFR. The adjusted AFR is used for specific income tax calculations related to certain tax-exempt obligations and other specialized situations - not for determining the minimum interest rate on family loans. If you charge less than the appropriate AFR, the IRS will consider the difference between what you charged and what you should have charged as a gift, potentially subject to gift tax reporting if it exceeds annual exclusion amounts. Make sure you properly document the loan with a written agreement including the interest rate, payment schedule, and term. Also consider recording the mortgage to ensure the interest is potentially tax-deductible for the borrower.

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Thanks for clearing that up! If we go with the long-term AFR at 1.72%, do we need to use that exact rate or could we round up to say 2% to be safe? Also, does the rate get locked in at closing or does it need to adjust over time?

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You can absolutely use a rate higher than the AFR - the 1.72% is just the minimum required to avoid gift tax implications. Many families choose to round up slightly as you suggested, both for simplicity and to provide a small buffer in case there were any questions. Regarding your second question, the rate you choose is fixed based on the AFR for the month when the loan is made. Once you establish the loan at that rate, you don't need to adjust it later even if future AFRs change. That rate is locked in for the entire term of the loan unless your written agreement specifically includes provisions for rate adjustments.

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Just an additional tip from someone who went through this recently - make sure you document everything properly! My parents loaned me money for my house last year, and we used the correct AFR, but we didn't create proper loan documentation. This created headaches at tax time because I couldn't deduct the mortgage interest I paid to my parents without proper documentation. Also, make sure you actually make the payments as scheduled - the IRS can reclassify the loan as a gift if you're not treating it like a real loan with regular payments. We ended up having our agreement notarized and recording the mortgage with the county, which helped establish the legitimacy of our arrangement. It's worth the extra effort upfront to avoid tax issues later.

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Do you need an attorney to create the loan documentation or is there a template you can use? And did you have to pay any recording fees when you filed with the county?

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We used an attorney for our documentation which cost about $500, but I've heard many people use templates available online successfully. Just make sure any template includes all the essential elements: loan amount, interest rate, payment schedule, term length, and what happens in case of default. Some states have specific requirements, so it's worth checking that. Yes, we paid recording fees to the county - it was around $75 in our area. The fees vary by location and the amount of the loan. While this seems like an extra expense, it officially establishes the mortgage and makes the interest tax-deductible for you as the borrower, which can save a lot more in taxes over the life of the loan.

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The IRS publishes the AFRs monthly in the Internal Revenue Bulletin. For April 2025, the long-term AFR is 1.72% for annual compounding, 1.71% for semiannual compounding, and 1.70% for quarterly compounding. The adjusted AFR of 1.31% isn't applicable for family loans. For reference, you can find these rates published in Revenue Ruling 2025-X (they publish a new one monthly). This is directly from the source rather than relying on potentially outdated or incorrect online information.

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Does "long-term" specifically mean the loan is over 9 years? We're considering a 7-year family loan term, would we use the mid-term AFR instead?

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Yes, exactly! The IRS categorizes AFRs by term length: short-term (3 years or less), mid-term (over 3 years but not over 9 years), and long-term (over 9 years). For a 7-year family loan, you would use the mid-term AFR, not the long-term rate. The mid-term AFR for April 2025 would be different from the 1.72% long-term rate mentioned. Make sure to check the current month's Revenue Ruling for the correct mid-term AFR when you establish your loan. This is an important distinction that could affect both your tax obligations and the minimum interest rate required to avoid gift tax implications.

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