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Which Applicable Federal Rate (AFR) should be used for business purchase - agreement signing or closing date?

I'm in the process of buying a small manufacturing business and we're doing seller financing. The seller agreed to finance part of the purchase at the Applicable Federal Rate (AFR). We signed the purchase agreement last month, but the actual closing won't happen until next month. My question is: which AFR should we use? The one from when we signed the purchase agreement, or the one that will be in effect during the actual closing month? The rates have been fluctuating and it could make a difference of almost 0.5% on a substantial loan amount. Our attorney seems to think either would work, but I want to be 100% sure we're following IRS guidelines correctly. Has anyone dealt with this specific AFR timing issue before?

Leslie Parker

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Tax professional here. For seller financing using the Applicable Federal Rate (AFR), you typically use the AFR from either the month the loan is made OR any of the three months prior to when the loan is made. The key is understanding when the loan is considered "made" - which is generally the closing date when funds are disbursed and the note is signed, not when the purchase agreement is executed. The purchase agreement is just that - an agreement to purchase. The actual debt instrument (promissory note) typically isn't executed until closing, which is when the AFR becomes relevant. IRS regulations allow you to use the AFR from the month of closing or any of the three prior months. This gives you some flexibility in case rates are fluctuating, but you must document which rate you're using and apply it consistently.

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Sergio Neal

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Thanks for explaining this! I'm actually in a similar situation. Does this mean if our closing is scheduled for May, we could use the AFR from February, March, April, or May? Also, do we need to specify which month's AFR we're using somewhere in the loan documents?

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Leslie Parker

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Yes, if your closing is in May, you can use the AFR from February, March, April, or May. This gives you some flexibility to choose the most favorable rate within that window. You should absolutely specify in your loan documents which month's AFR you're using. This creates a clear record of your calculation method if there's ever an IRS question. The promissory note should explicitly state something like "interest shall accrue at x% per annum, which is the Applicable Federal Rate for [specific month and year].

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Amy Fleming

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Elin Robinson

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One thing I learned from my business acquisition last year - make sure your purchase agreement explicitly states which AFR will apply. We didn't, and it created a huge headache later. Our lawyers ended up having to draft an amendment to clarify that we were using the AFR from the month prior to closing (which was lower than the closing month). Save yourself the trouble and legal fees by being specific upfront about which month's rate applies.

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Did you face any issues with the IRS because of the amendment? I'm worried that changing the rate after the fact might look suspicious.

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Elin Robinson

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We didn't have any issues with the IRS, but that's because we made the amendment before closing actually occurred. The key was that we clarified our intention before the loan was officially "made" according to IRS definitions. If we had tried to amend the rate after closing had occurred and the note was signed, that would have been problematic and potentially raised red flags. The IRS might view that as trying to retroactively change terms to get a tax advantage. Always make these clarifications before money changes hands.

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Beth Ford

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Has anyone used the term AFR in their actual loan documents? I'm wondering if we should just state the exact interest rate (like "4.75%") or if we should reference it as "the long-term Applicable Federal Rate for April 2025" in case there are future questions about how we determined the rate.

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In our seller financing agreement, we specifically referenced the AFR by saying "interest shall accrue at 4.53%, which represents the long-term Applicable Federal Rate for March 2025." Our attorney recommended this approach so there's no ambiguity about which rate we used and when it was published.

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Great question! I went through this exact same situation last year with my restaurant acquisition. The confusion around AFR timing is really common, especially when there's a gap between signing and closing. From my experience (and after consulting with both my CPA and attorney), the AFR is determined based on when the loan is actually "made" - which is the closing date when the promissory note is executed and funds change hands. The purchase agreement signing date doesn't matter for AFR purposes since no debt instrument exists yet. What really helped me was creating a simple timeline in our loan documents showing: 1) Purchase agreement date, 2) Scheduled closing date, and 3) Which specific AFR we elected to use (we went with the month prior to closing since it was slightly lower). This documentation proved invaluable later when our accountant was preparing tax returns. One tip: if rates are trending upward and your closing might get delayed, consider adding language to your purchase agreement that lets you lock in the AFR from a specific month within the allowable window. We almost got burned when our closing was pushed back two weeks and rates had jumped significantly.

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This is such a helpful discussion! I'm currently in negotiations for a tech consulting business acquisition and hadn't even considered the AFR implications until reading this thread. One question that comes up from reading everyone's experiences: do the AFR rules apply differently for different types of business purchases? For example, does it matter if I'm buying assets vs. stock, or if the business is structured as an LLC vs. Corporation? Also, @James Martinez, your point about adding language to lock in the AFR is brilliant - I'm definitely going to discuss that with my attorney. Did you use specific legal language for that provision, or was it more of a general "we reserve the right to use any AFR within the allowable window" type of clause? The timing flexibility seems like it could be really valuable given how much rates have been fluctuating lately. Thanks to everyone for sharing their real-world experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical advice you can't get from just reading IRS publications!

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Arjun Kurti

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Welcome to the community! Great questions about AFR applications. The AFR rules generally apply the same way regardless of whether you're buying assets vs. stock or the entity structure (LLC vs. Corp). What matters is the debt instrument itself - if there's seller financing below market rates, AFR rules kick in. However, there can be some nuances with different structures. For example, if you're buying into an LLC as a new member rather than purchasing the entire business, the transaction might be treated differently for tax purposes. Asset purchases vs. stock purchases can also affect how the financing is characterized, but the core AFR requirements remain consistent. @James Martinez s'AFR lock-in provision is indeed smart! For my consulting business acquisition, we used language like Interest "shall accrue at the Applicable Federal Rate selected by Buyer from the month of closing or any of the three months immediately preceding, such selection to be made at Buyer s'sole discretion and documented in writing no later than closing. This" gave us maximum flexibility while keeping it legally clear. One thing specific to service businesses like consulting - make sure your attorney considers how any earnout provisions or contingent payments might interact with AFR calculations. These can sometimes create additional complexity that manufacturing or retail businesses don t'face.

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Mei-Ling Chen

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This is exactly the kind of situation where getting the timing right is crucial! I went through a similar manufacturing business acquisition two years ago and initially made the same assumption about using the purchase agreement date. What I learned (the hard way, after having to amend our documents) is that the IRS is very specific about when a debt instrument is considered "made." The key regulation is Section 1274, which clearly states that the AFR applies based on when the debt obligation actually comes into existence - not when you agree to create it later. In your case, since you're doing seller financing, the promissory note and actual loan don't exist until closing when funds are exchanged and the note is signed. At that point, you can use the AFR from the closing month or any of the three preceding months, giving you four options to choose from. One practical tip: track the AFR rates monthly leading up to your closing so you can make an informed choice. The IRS publishes these rates monthly, and they can vary significantly. We saved about 0.3% on our loan by using the AFR from two months prior to closing instead of the closing month rate. Also make sure your attorney includes the specific AFR reference and date in the promissory note itself - something like "Interest shall accrue at 4.25% per annum, being the long-term Applicable Federal Rate for [specific month/year] as published by the Internal Revenue Service." This documentation becomes very important for tax reporting purposes. Good luck with your acquisition! Manufacturing businesses can be complex but very rewarding when structured properly.

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@Mei-Ling Chen, thanks for sharing your experience with the manufacturing business acquisition! Your point about Section 1274 is really helpful - I've been trying to wrap my head around all the technical regulations. Quick question: when you mentioned tracking AFR rates monthly, did you find any patterns or trends that helped you predict which direction rates might be heading? I'm wondering if there are any economic indicators that typically correlate with AFR movements, or if it's pretty much impossible to forecast. Also, for the promissory note language you suggested - did your lender (the seller) have any concerns about giving you the flexibility to choose from multiple months' rates? I could see some sellers wanting to lock in a specific rate rather than leaving it up to the buyer's discretion at closing. The manufacturing sector definitely seems to have some unique considerations compared to service businesses. Appreciate you taking the time to share the lessons learned!

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Dana Doyle

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This is a really common source of confusion, and you're smart to get clarity before closing! I dealt with this exact issue when I bought my small business two years ago. The key thing to understand is that the AFR applies when the loan is actually "made," which legally happens at closing when the promissory note is executed and funds are disbursed - not when you sign the purchase agreement. The purchase agreement is just a contract to buy; the actual debt instrument doesn't exist until closing. This actually works in your favor because it gives you flexibility. You can use the AFR from the closing month OR any of the three months prior to closing. So if you close in May, you could choose from February, March, April, or May's AFR - whichever is most favorable. A few practical tips from my experience: - Document your AFR selection clearly in the promissory note with language like "interest at 4.2% per annum, being the long-term AFR for April 2025" - Track the monthly AFR rates leading up to closing so you can make an informed choice - Consider adding language to your purchase agreement that preserves your right to select any AFR within the allowable window in case closing gets delayed The 0.5% difference you mentioned could be substantial over the life of the loan, so it's definitely worth getting this right. Your attorney is correct that either approach could work, but using the closing date (or months prior) is the technically correct interpretation under IRS regulations.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you @Dana Doyle! As someone new to business acquisitions, I really appreciate you breaking down the technical aspects in plain English. The distinction between the purchase agreement (just a contract) versus the actual loan creation at closing makes perfect sense now. Your point about tracking monthly AFR rates is something I hadn't considered but seems really important given the potential savings. Do you happen to know if there's a reliable source where the IRS publishes these rates, or did you have to hunt around for historical data? Also, I'm curious about your experience with adding the AFR selection language to the purchase agreement. Did the seller have any pushback about giving you that flexibility, or were they generally understanding since it's within IRS guidelines anyway? I could see some sellers preferring certainty over leaving rate selection up to the buyer. The promissory note documentation example you provided is exactly what I was looking for - something specific I can discuss with my attorney. Thanks for sharing your real-world experience!

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