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Emma Wilson

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Anyone know if Qualified Terminable Interest Property (QTIP) trusts have different tax rules? My spouse and I are updating our estate plan and our attorney mentioned QTIP but I'm not sure about the tax implications.

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QuantumLeap

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QTIP trusts are mainly for estate tax purposes - they let you provide for your spouse while still controlling where assets go after they die. Income is taxed to your spouse during their lifetime, and assets are included in their estate for estate tax purposes. They qualify for the marital deduction so no estate tax when the first spouse dies.

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NeonNinja

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One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned much is the "throwback rule" for complex trusts. If a trust accumulates income for several years and then makes a large distribution to beneficiaries, the IRS can "throw back" that income to prior years and tax it at higher rates, plus add interest charges. This can create a nasty surprise for beneficiaries who receive distributions from trusts that have been accumulating income. Also, watch out for state tax implications - some states don't recognize grantor trust status and will tax trust income at the state level even if it's flowing through to you federally. Others have no state income tax on trusts at all. The state where the trust is established, where the trustee resides, and where beneficiaries live can all potentially create tax obligations. If you're thinking about funding the trust with appreciated assets, remember that trusts don't get a stepped-up basis like inherited property does. So if you put stock worth $100k (that you bought for $20k) into a non-grantor trust, and the trust later sells it, the trust pays capital gains tax on the full $80k gain.

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This is really helpful info about the throwback rule and state tax complications! I had no idea about the stepped-up basis issue either. So if I'm understanding correctly, it might actually be better to leave appreciated assets in my personal name and only put cash or income-producing assets into a trust? That way I could get the stepped-up basis benefit when I pass away, rather than having the trust pay capital gains on assets I've held for years. Are there any exceptions to this rule, or is it pretty much always the case that trusts don't get stepped-up basis?

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Aisha Rahman

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My CPA told me that the hobby loss presumption kicks in after 3 years of losses, but you get 5 years for activities involving horses (weird exception lol). For your YouTube channel, document EVERYTHING that shows you're trying to make money. Schedule C should show increasing income even if expenses are higher.

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Ethan Wilson

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Yep, the horse thing is a real exception! I think it's because breeding and racing operations often take longer to become profitable. But honestly all businesses are different. My friend's software startup had 6 years of losses before becoming hugely profitable, and they never got reclassified as a hobby.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the IRS also considers the "manner in which you carry on the activity" as one of the nine factors. For YouTube creators, this means treating your channel like a real business - having a content calendar, tracking analytics, actively seeking sponsorships, and reinvesting profits back into the channel. I'd recommend keeping a business journal documenting your efforts to monetize and grow the channel. Note down networking activities, market research, content strategy changes, etc. This creates a paper trail showing you're genuinely trying to build a profitable business, not just pursuing a hobby that happens to make some money. Also, don't artificially limit your legitimate business expenses just to show a small profit. The IRS would rather see realistic business operations than obvious manipulation of numbers. Focus on building a strong case for business intent through your actions and documentation.

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This is really solid advice! I'm just getting started with my YouTube channel and hadn't thought about keeping a business journal. Do you have any suggestions for what specific activities I should be documenting? I'm doing basic stuff like posting regularly and responding to comments, but I want to make sure I'm covering all the business-like activities that would matter to the IRS. Also, when you mention "reinvesting profits back into the channel" - does that include things like paying for better internet or upgrading my computer? I'm trying to figure out what counts as legitimate business reinvestment versus just personal expenses that happen to help with the channel.

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AstroAce

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Just wanted to add another perspective based on my experience helping clients with similar situations. While everyone's covered the estate tax basics well, don't overlook the importance of reviewing beneficiary designations regularly. I've seen cases where clients had outdated beneficiary forms that didn't reflect their current wishes, or worse, no beneficiary listed at all which can force the IRA through probate. Make sure your mom's IRA custodians have current beneficiary forms on file, and consider naming contingent beneficiaries too. Also, if she has multiple IRA accounts, she might want to consider consolidating them to simplify management and ensure consistent beneficiary designations across all accounts. This becomes especially important if she decides to implement any of the trust strategies mentioned earlier.

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Oliver Weber

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This is such an important point that often gets overlooked! I've seen situations where family members discovered after a death that the IRA beneficiary forms hadn't been updated in decades - sometimes still listing ex-spouses or even deceased relatives. One thing to add: when reviewing those beneficiary designations, it's also worth checking if the IRA custodian allows for per stirpes designations. This means if a primary beneficiary predeceases your mom, their share would automatically go to their children rather than being redistributed among the surviving beneficiaries. Can save a lot of complications later. The consolidation suggestion is spot-on too. I've helped relatives deal with estates that had IRAs scattered across 4-5 different institutions - it was a nightmare trying to coordinate everything and ensure all the beneficiary forms were consistent.

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One important detail that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure your mom understands that while her estate may be well under the federal exemption now, those exemption amounts are set to change dramatically in 2026. The current high exemption ($13.61 million for 2024) is scheduled to sunset and revert back to pre-2018 levels, which would be around $6-7 million adjusted for inflation. This "exemption cliff" in 2026 could potentially affect larger estates, though with your mom's current $2.6 million total, she'd still likely be safe. But it's worth keeping in mind for planning purposes, especially if her assets continue to grow or if she inherits from other family members. Also, since you mentioned you're the sole beneficiary, you might want to discuss with her whether she wants to add any contingent beneficiaries just in case something happens to you before her. Having a clear succession plan can avoid complications later.

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This is such a crucial point about the 2026 exemption cliff that many people aren't aware of! I had no idea the current exemption amounts were temporary. That's definitely something to keep in mind for long-term planning, even if it doesn't affect my mom's situation right now. The contingent beneficiary suggestion is really smart too. I hadn't thought about what would happen if something happened to me first. Do you know if there are any specific considerations for naming contingent beneficiaries on IRAs? Like, should they be named at the same percentage splits, or can you designate different distributions for primary vs contingent beneficiaries? Also wondering if the exemption cliff in 2026 might impact state estate tax planning too, or if those are typically set independently of federal levels?

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Great summary Isabella! One additional consideration for your client - since they're a franchise operation, make sure to check if the franchisor has any specific requirements about POS system depreciation methods for consistency across their network. Some franchisors provide guidance on accounting treatments to ensure uniform financial reporting across locations. Also, if they're planning to open additional locations in the next few years, establishing a consistent depreciation policy now will make future locations much easier to handle. Document your rationale for the 5-year classification so you have support for when you're dealing with multiple locations down the road. The Section 179 election is definitely worth exploring given the current limits, especially if this is their only significant equipment purchase this year. Just keep in mind the potential recapture issues if the business use drops below 50% in future years (though that's unlikely for restaurant POS systems).

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Zara Ahmed

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Excellent point about checking with the franchisor! I hadn't considered that they might have standardized accounting policies across their network. That's definitely something worth asking about early on. I'm also curious - for franchise operations, do you typically see any special considerations around the initial franchise fees and how they relate to equipment depreciation? I know franchise fees are generally amortized over 15 years, but I'm wondering if there are any allocation issues when the franchisor provides or mandates specific equipment like POS systems as part of the franchise package. The documentation point is really smart too. Having a clear rationale documented will be invaluable when we're preparing for their next location or if they ever face an audit. Thanks for thinking ahead on the multi-location expansion scenario!

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As someone who's worked with numerous franchise operations over the years, I can confirm that most restaurant franchisors do provide standardized accounting guidelines, including equipment depreciation policies. It's worth reaching out to the franchisor's operations or accounting department early in the process. Regarding franchise fees and equipment allocation - this can get tricky. If the POS system cost is bundled into the initial franchise fee, you'll need to allocate the fair market value of the equipment separately from the intangible franchise rights. The equipment portion gets depreciated over its useful life (5 years for POS systems), while the franchise fee portion continues to be amortized over 15 years. If the franchisor requires specific POS systems but the franchisee purchases them separately, then you treat them as regular business equipment purchases. Just make sure to maintain clear documentation of what was included in franchise fees versus separate equipment purchases. One more tip: many franchisors have relationships with preferred POS vendors and may have negotiated volume pricing. Sometimes they can provide invoices that clearly separate hardware, software, installation, and training costs, which makes your componentization much cleaner from the start.

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This is incredibly helpful information about franchise operations! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now with a client who's opening their second location for a pizza franchise. The distinction between bundled franchise fees versus separate equipment purchases is something I completely overlooked on their first location. We treated everything as equipment, but you're absolutely right that we should have allocated the POS system costs separately from the franchise rights portion. Do you have any experience with situations where the franchisor leases the POS equipment to franchisees rather than requiring purchase? I'm wondering if that changes the depreciation treatment or if we'd need to account for it differently under the lease accounting standards. My client mentioned their franchisor offers both purchase and lease options for the POS systems. Also, the point about getting invoices that separate the different cost components is gold - I'm definitely going to request that level of detail going forward. Makes the whole componentization process so much cleaner from a documentation standpoint.

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The commission income definitely adds complexity to your W4 setup! Here's what's worked for me in a similar situation: Since your wife has the higher, more stable income at $78k, I'd recommend having her claim both kids on her W4 in Step 3. This keeps things simpler and more predictable for withholding calculations. For your commission income, here's the key: estimate your total annual commission and divide by your number of paychecks, then use that amount in the IRS withholding calculator. The calculator will tell you exactly how much extra to withhold on line 4(c) of your W4. One trick that's helped me - I actually slightly overestimate my commission income when doing these calculations. Better to get a small refund than owe money! You can always adjust mid-year if your commission patterns change significantly. Also, since commission income can push you into higher tax brackets unexpectedly, consider having a flat extra amount withheld from each of your paychecks (like $100-200) just as a buffer. This has saved me from surprise tax bills multiple times. The bottom line: use the IRS withholding calculator quarterly to stay on track, especially with variable income in the mix.

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Aisha Khan

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This is really solid advice! I like the idea of slightly overestimating commission income to avoid surprises. One question - when you say "divide by your number of paychecks," do you mean just your regular salary paychecks or should I factor in that commission usually comes separately? I get my base salary bi-weekly but commission monthly, so I'm not sure how to calculate that part for the withholding estimator.

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Great question! For the withholding calculator, you'll want to enter your commission as a separate income source since it comes on a different schedule. The IRS tool actually has a section for "other income" where you can input your estimated annual commission total. Since your commission comes monthly and your salary is bi-weekly, keep them separate in the calculator. Enter your $65k salary as bi-weekly income (26 pay periods), then add your estimated annual commission as "other income." The calculator will factor in both income streams and tell you how much extra to withhold from your regular bi-weekly paychecks to cover the taxes on both. This approach works better than trying to average everything together, especially since commission timing can affect which tax year it falls into. Hope that helps clarify!

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the timing of when you update your W4s during the year. Since you have commission income that varies, I'd suggest reviewing your withholding after each quarter, especially if you have a particularly high or low commission quarter. Also, with two kids, make sure you're taking advantage of the Child Tax Credit properly. The current credit is $2,000 per qualifying child, and this gets factored into your withholding calculations when you claim them in Step 3 of the W4. A tip from my own experience with variable income: I keep a simple spreadsheet tracking my year-to-date commission versus what I estimated when I last updated my W4. If I'm running significantly higher or lower than projected by mid-year, I'll run the IRS calculator again and adjust my withholding for the remaining months. The key is staying proactive rather than waiting until tax time to discover you're off target. With your combined income levels and two kids, you're probably in a sweet spot where small adjustments can make a big difference in getting your withholding just right.

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This is excellent advice about quarterly reviews! I just wanted to add that as someone new to dealing with commission income and W4 adjustments, I've found it helpful to set calendar reminders for these quarterly check-ins. One question though - when you mention the Child Tax Credit being factored into withholding calculations in Step 3, does that mean we should expect less tax to be withheld from our paychecks once we claim the kids? I want to make sure I understand how that affects our overall withholding strategy, especially with the variable commission income making everything more complex. Also, your spreadsheet idea is genius! Do you track anything else besides commission versus estimates, or is that the main variable you monitor?

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