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What happens if I go tax exempt on my W-4? Will I owe everything at tax season?

So my employer is taking about $300 out of every paycheck for taxes, which adds up to almost $19k a year. I'm thinking about claiming exempt on my W-4 to stop the withholding and get more money in each check, but I'm not sure what happens at tax time. If I go tax exempt, will I just have to pay the full $19k during tax season? Or would it be less like $15k? Or could it be way more? I'm trying to figure out if it's better to have the steady withdrawals or just save up myself and pay it all at once. Anyone have experience with this?

Going tax exempt on your W-4 means you're telling your employer not to withhold any federal income tax from your paychecks. This doesn't mean you don't owe taxes - you're just choosing not to pay them throughout the year. At tax time, you'd owe your entire tax liability in one lump sum. Depending on your overall income and deductions, this might be more or less than what would have been withheld. The $19k they're currently taking out might include Social Security and Medicare taxes too, which you can't exempt yourself from. Here's the important thing - if you meet certain criteria, the IRS can penalize you for not paying enough tax throughout the year. You generally need to pay at least 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax (whichever is smaller) through withholding or estimated quarterly payments to avoid an underpayment penalty.

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But what if you just set aside that money yourself each month in a high-yield savings account? Couldn't you earn interest on it and then just pay the tax bill when it comes due? Would the penalty be more than the interest you'd earn?

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You could certainly set aside money yourself, but the underpayment penalty would likely exceed any interest you'd earn in today's rates. The IRS penalty rate is currently about 8% annually, while most high-yield savings accounts pay around 4-5%. Additionally, you should know that falsely claiming exemption when you don't qualify is itself problematic. You can only claim exempt if you had no tax liability last year AND expect none this year. If you're earning enough to have $300 withheld per check, you almost certainly don't qualify to claim exempt.

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How accurate was it though? Did the numbers actually work out when you filed? I've used calculators before that were way off.

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Can it help if you have multiple income sources? I have a main job plus a side gig and never know how to balance the withholding between them.

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I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After dismissing it as a scam in the comments, I decided to try it anyway because I was desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my withholding situation. Not only did it work, but I was connected to an IRS representative in about 12 minutes! The agent explained that going tax exempt would be a really bad idea in my situation and would result in not just owing all the tax at once but also substantial penalties. They helped me adjust my W-4 to withhold a more appropriate amount that gave me an extra $210 per paycheck without causing problems. I'm shocked that it actually worked as advertised. Saved me hours of frustration and potentially thousands in penalties.

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Instead of going fully exempt, have you considered just adjusting your W-4 to withhold less? You can add more allowances or specify an additional amount to NOT withhold each paycheck. That way you still have some tax being paid throughout the year (avoiding underpayment penalties) but you get more in your paychecks. The IRS has a tax withholding estimator that can help you figure out the right amount: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator

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That calculator looks helpful but honestly it's kinda confusing. It's asking for a bunch of info I don't have on hand. Is there a simpler way to figure this out? Like a general rule of thumb?

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A simple approach would be to look at last year's tax return. Take your total tax (not what you owed at filing, but the total tax for the year) and divide by the number of paychecks you get annually. That gives you a rough estimate of what you should have withheld per check to break even. If you want a small buffer to avoid owing, add 10%. For example, if your total tax last year was $12,000 and you get paid twice a month (24 checks), you'd want about $500-550 withheld per check. If they're taking $300, that's probably too little; if they're taking $800, that's too much.

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Going tax exempt when you're not actually exempt is a big mistake! I did this when I was younger thinking I could just pay everything at tax time, and I got hit with a $750 underpayment penalty plus I had no money saved to pay the actual taxes. Ended up on a payment plan with the IRS for like 18 months.

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Isn't there some "safe harbor" rule though? I heard somewhere that if you pay a certain percentage of what you owed last year, they won't penalize you even if your income goes up?

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Yes, there is a safe harbor provision. If you pay at least 100% of your previous year's tax liability (or 110% if your income is over $150,000), you won't face underpayment penalties. This can be through withholding or estimated quarterly payments. But going completely tax exempt without making quarterly estimated payments definitely won't meet the safe harbor requirements. You'd need to be making those quarterly payments yourself if you went exempt on your W-4.

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Before making any drastic changes to your withholding, I'd recommend calculating what you actually owe in taxes versus what's being withheld. That $300 per paycheck might include more than just federal income tax - it could also include Social Security, Medicare, state taxes, and other deductions. To get a clearer picture, look at your pay stub and identify exactly how much is federal income tax withholding versus other taxes and deductions. Then compare that to what you actually owed in federal taxes last year (line 24 on Form 1040). If you're significantly overwithholding on federal taxes, you can adjust your W-4 to reduce the amount without going fully exempt. Use the IRS withholding calculator or consult with a tax professional to find the right balance. Going completely exempt is risky and could result in penalties that cost more than any potential interest you might earn by managing the money yourself.

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This is really solid advice! I made the mistake of not breaking down my pay stub properly when I first started working and thought I was being overtaxed when really a big chunk was going to state taxes and benefits. One thing that helped me was asking HR for a detailed breakdown of all the deductions. Sometimes they lump everything together as "taxes" on the stub, but when you see it itemized, you realize the federal withholding might actually be pretty close to what you'll owe. It's definitely worth doing this math before making any W-4 changes.

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I went through this exact situation a few years ago! Here's what I learned the hard way: that $300 per paycheck is likely not ALL federal income tax. When I broke down my pay stub, I found that about $180 was federal withholding, $45 was Social Security/Medicare, $60 was state taxes, and the rest was other deductions. The key insight is that you can only claim exempt from federal income tax withholding - you still have to pay Social Security, Medicare, and state taxes regardless. So even if you go exempt, you're probably only saving the $180 portion, not the full $300. Instead of going fully exempt, I adjusted my W-4 to reduce my federal withholding by about $100 per paycheck. I used the safe harbor rule - made sure my total withholding for the year would equal at least 100% of what I owed last year. This gave me more money each paycheck without the risk of penalties. My advice: Get your last pay stub and your last tax return. Figure out exactly how much federal income tax you actually owed versus how much is being withheld just for federal taxes. Then you can make an informed decision about adjusting your W-4 rather than going completely exempt.

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This breakdown is super helpful! I never thought to separate out all the different taxes on my pay stub. I've been looking at that total $300 thinking it was all federal income tax that I could avoid by going exempt. If only about $180 of that is actually federal withholding, then going exempt wouldn't save me nearly as much as I thought. Plus dealing with the penalties and having to pay a big lump sum at tax time doesn't seem worth it for the smaller amount. The safe harbor approach you mentioned sounds much smarter - getting some extra money each paycheck without the major risks. I'm going to dig into my pay stub this week and compare it to last year's return like you suggested before making any changes to my W-4.

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that if you do decide to adjust your withholding (rather than going fully exempt), you should also consider your filing status and any major life changes. If you got married, divorced, had a kid, bought a house, or started contributing to a 401k since last year, your tax situation could be very different. I learned this when I got married mid-year and kept my withholding the same as when I was single. Even though my gross pay was similar to the previous year, our combined household income put us in a different tax bracket and we ended up owing about $2,000 at filing time. The W-4 form has sections for these scenarios - you can account for your spouse's income, dependents, deductions, etc. It's worth taking the time to fill it out completely rather than just changing the exemption status. This way you can optimize your withholding based on your current situation instead of just guessing.

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This is such an important point! Life changes can completely throw off your withholding calculations. I went through something similar when I started maxing out my 401k contributions mid-year - suddenly I was getting huge refunds because my taxable income dropped significantly but my withholding stayed the same. It's also worth noting that if you have any side income (freelance work, rental income, investment gains), that can really mess with your withholding strategy too. The W-4 has a section for additional income that doesn't have taxes withheld, and you can specify extra withholding to cover that. @Malik Johnson - did you end up having to make estimated quarterly payments to avoid penalties the following year, or were you able to adjust your W-4 to handle the higher tax liability from being married?

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I've been dealing with a similar withholding situation and want to share what worked for me. After reading through all these responses, I realized I was making the same mistake as many others - looking at that total deduction amount and thinking it was all federal income tax that I could avoid. What really helped was doing exactly what Isabella Santos suggested: I got my last few pay stubs and my previous year's tax return and did the math. Turns out only about $160 of my $280 total tax deductions was actually federal withholding - the rest was Social Security, Medicare, state taxes, and some other deductions I'd forgotten about. Instead of going exempt (which would have been a disaster based on what I'm reading here about penalties), I used the IRS withholding calculator and adjusted my W-4 to reduce my federal withholding by about $80 per paycheck. This gave me an extra $160 per month while still ensuring I'd meet the safe harbor requirements. The key insight for me was that going completely exempt isn't really about avoiding all taxes - it's just about the federal income tax portion. And when you factor in the potential penalties and the stress of owing a big lump sum, the modest savings just weren't worth it. The gradual adjustment approach has worked much better and I don't have to worry about getting hit with surprise penalties or scrambling to find thousands of dollars at tax time.

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This is exactly the kind of methodical approach everyone should take! I'm glad you took the time to break down your actual numbers rather than making assumptions. Your experience really highlights how misleading that total deduction amount can be when you're trying to figure out tax strategy. The $80 reduction giving you $160 extra per month while staying within safe harbor rules sounds like the perfect sweet spot. That's meaningful extra cash flow without the anxiety of potentially owing thousands plus penalties. I think a lot of people get caught up in the idea of going fully exempt because it sounds like you'd get ALL that money back, but as you discovered, the reality is much more modest and the risks are substantial. Thanks for sharing the actual numbers - it really helps put things in perspective for others who might be considering similar changes to their withholding.

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I want to echo what several people have said about breaking down your pay stub - this is absolutely critical before making any decisions. That $300 is almost certainly not all federal income tax that you can exempt yourself from. Here's a simple way to think about it: Social Security (6.2%) and Medicare (1.45%) taxes are unavoidable - you can't claim exempt from these. So on a typical paycheck, if you're making around $4,000 gross, about $310 of that $300 is already going to these payroll taxes alone, plus any state taxes. The real question is how much of that $300 is actually federal income tax withholding that you could potentially reduce. Once you figure that out, you can make an informed decision about adjusting your W-4 rather than going nuclear with full exemption. I'd also strongly recommend using one of the tools others mentioned (like the IRS withholding calculator) or even getting professional help before making changes. The peace of mind of knowing you're not setting yourself up for a massive tax bill and penalties is worth way more than any potential interest you might earn on the money.

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This is such a great breakdown of the payroll tax reality! Your example really drives home how much of that $300 is already locked in regardless of what you do with your W-4. I think a lot of people (myself included before reading this thread) don't realize that Social Security and Medicare taxes alone can eat up a huge chunk of what gets deducted from each paycheck. The math you provided is eye-opening - if someone is making $4,000 gross and $310 is already going to unavoidable payroll taxes, then claiming exempt might only save them whatever small amount is left for federal withholding after state taxes too. Suddenly going exempt doesn't look nearly as attractive when you realize you might only be talking about $50-100 per paycheck instead of the full $300. I'm definitely going to take everyone's advice here and do the actual math on my pay stub before considering any changes. Better to make an informed decision based on real numbers than to jump into something that could cause way more problems than it solves.

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Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! I think I was making the classic mistake of looking at that $300 total and assuming it was all federal income tax I could avoid. Based on everyone's advice, I'm going to: 1. Get my most recent pay stub and break down exactly what portion is federal withholding vs. Social Security, Medicare, state taxes, etc. 2. Compare that to what I actually owed in federal taxes last year from my 1040 3. Use the IRS withholding calculator or one of the tools mentioned here to find the right adjustment It sounds like instead of going fully exempt (which could be a disaster with penalties), I should be able to adjust my W-4 to reduce federal withholding by a reasonable amount while still meeting safe harbor requirements. Getting an extra $100-150 per paycheck without the stress and risk of owing thousands at tax time seems like a much smarter approach. Thanks everyone for talking me out of what would have been a really expensive mistake! This community is amazing for sharing real experiences and practical advice.

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This is exactly the right approach! I'm so glad you're taking the time to do the math first rather than just making the change and hoping for the best. Your three-step plan is spot on and will save you from what could have been a really costly mistake. One thing I'd add to your plan - when you're looking at your pay stub breakdown, also check if you have any pre-tax deductions like health insurance premiums or 401k contributions. These reduce your taxable income, which means your actual federal tax liability might be lower than you initially calculated. It's another reason why that $300 total deduction can be so misleading when you're trying to figure out your tax strategy. You're absolutely right that getting an extra $100-150 per paycheck safely is way better than the stress of potentially owing the IRS thousands plus penalties. The peace of mind alone is worth sticking with the gradual adjustment approach rather than going fully exempt.

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I want to add another perspective based on my own experience with this exact situation. A few years ago I was in the same boat - seeing that big chunk come out of every paycheck and thinking about going exempt to get it all back. What I discovered after doing the math (like everyone here is recommending) was that my "overwithholding" wasn't as dramatic as I thought. When I broke down my pay stub, only about $140 of my $320 total deductions was actually federal income tax withholding. The rest was Social Security, Medicare, state taxes, health insurance, and 401k contributions. More importantly, when I compared that $140 per paycheck to what I actually owed in federal taxes the previous year, I realized I was only overwithholding by about $40-50 per paycheck. Going fully exempt would have meant underpaying by about $90 per paycheck, which would have resulted in owing around $2,300 plus penalties at tax time. Instead, I made a small adjustment to my W-4 that reduced my withholding by $50 per paycheck. This gave me an extra $100 per month while keeping me safely within the guidelines. Not life-changing money, but enough to make a difference without the stress and risk of owing a huge tax bill. The key lesson: do the actual math before making any changes. That total deduction amount on your pay stub is NOT all money you can get back by going exempt, and the real savings are usually much smaller than you think while the potential penalties are much larger than you'd expect.

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This is such a valuable real-world example! Your experience perfectly illustrates why doing the actual math is so crucial. The fact that you were only "overwithholding" by $40-50 per paycheck instead of the $320 you initially thought really drives home how misleading that total deduction can be. What's particularly helpful is how you calculated the flip side - that going fully exempt would have meant underpaying by $90 per paycheck and owing $2,300 plus penalties. That's a perfect example of why the "just save the money yourself and pay at tax time" strategy rarely works out when you factor in the penalty rates. Your approach of the modest $50 reduction giving you $100 extra per month while staying compliant seems like the sweet spot that most people should be aiming for. It's meaningful extra cash flow without the anxiety of potentially owing thousands to the IRS. Thanks for sharing the specific numbers - it really helps put everything in perspective for others considering similar changes!

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Based on all the excellent advice in this thread, I want to emphasize one crucial point that could save you from a costly mistake: claiming tax exempt when you don't actually qualify is considered tax fraud by the IRS, not just a penalty issue. To legally claim exempt, you must meet BOTH of these conditions: 1. You had NO tax liability in the prior year, AND 2. You expect NO tax liability in the current year If you're earning enough to have $300 withheld per paycheck, you almost certainly don't qualify for exempt status. The IRS can impose penalties of up to $500 for each false exemption claim, plus interest and underpayment penalties on the taxes you should have paid. Instead of risking these serious consequences, follow the smart approach others have outlined: break down your pay stub, identify how much is actually federal withholding (probably much less than $300), and use the IRS withholding calculator to make appropriate adjustments to your W-4. You'll get more money in your paychecks while staying compliant and avoiding potentially thousands in penalties. The "save it yourself and earn interest" strategy sounds appealing in theory, but with IRS penalty rates around 8% and savings accounts paying 4-5%, you're guaranteed to lose money even before considering the legal risks.

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This is exactly the kind of warning everyone needs to hear! I had no idea that falsely claiming exempt could be considered fraud - I thought it was just a matter of owing more at tax time. The fact that there are specific legal requirements (no tax liability last year AND expecting none this year) really puts things in perspective. Your point about the penalty rates versus savings account interest is particularly eye-opening. I was definitely falling into that "earn interest while you wait" mindset, but when you lay out the actual numbers - 8% IRS penalties vs 4-5% savings rates - it's clear that's a losing strategy even without considering the fraud risk. The $500 penalty per false exemption claim on top of underpayment penalties could easily wipe out years of any potential interest earnings. Plus having to deal with the IRS and potential legal issues just isn't worth the relatively small amount of extra money each paycheck. I'm definitely sticking with the approach everyone's recommended here - do the math, figure out what's actually federal withholding versus other unavoidable deductions, and make modest adjustments through a proper W-4 rather than trying to game the system with exempt status.

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I've been following this discussion and want to add something that might help clarify the situation. As someone who works in payroll, I see this confusion all the time - people looking at their total tax withholdings and thinking they can avoid all of it by claiming exempt. The reality is that "taxes" on your pay stub typically includes several different components that you cannot exempt yourself from: - Social Security tax (6.2% up to the wage base) - Medicare tax (1.45% on all wages) - State income tax (varies by state) - State disability insurance (in some states) - Local taxes (in some jurisdictions) Only federal income tax withholding can be affected by claiming exempt on your W-4. So if your gross pay is around $5,000 per month and $300 is being deducted for "taxes," roughly $380+ is already going to Social Security and Medicare alone, plus any state/local taxes. The federal income tax portion might only be $100-150 of that $300 total. Claiming exempt would only affect that smaller portion, not the full amount. And as others have mentioned, if you don't actually qualify for exempt status (which most working people don't), you're setting yourself up for penalties that far exceed any benefit. My recommendation: request a detailed breakdown of your deductions from HR or payroll, then work with the actual federal withholding amount to make informed adjustments rather than going fully exempt.

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This breakdown from a payroll perspective is incredibly valuable! As someone new to understanding tax withholdings, I had no idea that Social Security and Medicare taxes alone could account for such a large portion of those deductions. Your example of $380+ going to just those two taxes on a $5,000 monthly salary really puts things in perspective. It's shocking to realize that what looks like $300 in "taxes" might only have $100-150 that could actually be affected by claiming exempt. That completely changes the risk/reward calculation - risking fraud penalties and underpayment fees for potentially just $100-150 per paycheck seems absolutely not worth it. I really appreciate you mentioning that we can request a detailed breakdown from HR/payroll. I think that's going to be my first step before making any decisions about my W-4. Having the actual numbers broken down by category will help me understand exactly what I'm working with instead of making assumptions based on that total deduction amount. This thread has been such an eye-opener - I came in thinking about going fully exempt but now realize that a small, calculated adjustment based on real data is the much smarter approach. Thank you for sharing your professional insight!

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I went through this same dilemma last year and almost made a huge mistake by claiming exempt. After reading through everyone's experiences here, I'm so glad I didn't go through with it! What really opened my eyes was when I finally sat down and did the math properly. Like others have mentioned, that big deduction on your pay stub includes way more than just federal income tax. When I broke down my $285 in total deductions, I found: - $198 for Social Security and Medicare (unavoidable) - $45 for state taxes - $42 for actual federal withholding So claiming exempt would have only saved me about $42 per paycheck, not the full $285 I was initially thinking. And when I compared that $42 to what I actually owed in federal taxes the previous year, I was only overwithholding by maybe $15-20 per paycheck. The wake-up call was realizing that going exempt would have meant underpaying by about $25 per paycheck, which over a full year would have left me owing around $650 plus penalties at tax time. The IRS underpayment penalty rates would have cost me way more than any interest I could have earned. Instead, I made a small adjustment to reduce my federal withholding by $20 per paycheck. Now I get an extra $40 per month while staying compliant and avoiding any risk of penalties. It's not life-changing money, but it's meaningful without the stress. My advice: definitely do the detailed breakdown first before making any changes. The real numbers are usually very different from what you initially think!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed breakdown that everyone considering withholding changes needs to see! Your real numbers perfectly illustrate why doing the actual math is so critical before making any decisions. The fact that your $285 total deduction only included $42 in actual federal withholding really drives home how misleading that lump sum can be. And your discovery that you were only overwithholding by $15-20 per paycheck shows how the "problem" is often much smaller than it initially appears. What's particularly valuable is how you calculated the flip side - that going exempt would have meant underpaying by $25 per paycheck and owing $650 plus penalties. That's a perfect example of how the math rarely works in favor of the "save it yourself" approach when you factor in penalty rates. Your solution of the modest $20 reduction giving you $40 extra per month while staying compliant is exactly the kind of balanced approach that makes sense. You're getting meaningful extra cash flow without the anxiety of potentially owing the IRS or dealing with penalties. Thanks for sharing your specific numbers - examples like this are so much more helpful than theoretical advice when people are trying to figure out their own situations!

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I've been reading through all these responses and they've completely changed my perspective on this! I was initially thinking about going exempt to get back that full $300 per paycheck, but now I realize I was making the same mistake everyone else mentions - not understanding what that total actually represents. The breakdown from Emma (the payroll professional) was especially eye-opening. If Social Security and Medicare taxes alone can account for $380+ on a $5,000 monthly salary, then my situation is probably similar. That $300 coming out of my check likely includes way more than just federal income tax that I could actually exempt myself from. What really convinced me to take the safer route was Payton's warning about the legal requirements for claiming exempt - you have to have had NO tax liability last year AND expect none this year. Since I definitely owed taxes last year, I clearly don't qualify for exempt status regardless of how much is being withheld. I'm going to follow everyone's advice here: get a detailed breakdown from HR of exactly what portions are federal withholding versus other unavoidable taxes, compare that to what I actually owed last year, and then make a modest adjustment to my W-4 if needed. Getting an extra $100-150 per month through a proper adjustment sounds way better than risking thousands in penalties by falsely claiming exempt. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences and numbers - this thread probably saved me from making a very expensive mistake!

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